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#101 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 95 weeks ago
I got this text from the Hoffman forum!...I just wanted to share it in case it shed some more light on the supposed trilogy!
#102 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 95 weeks ago
I never imagined that my post would be so relevant in the future for the young fanbase of some of the greatest singers of all time. That young gentleman has spoke to me all morning about this and I felt the "mission" to clarify the facts.
Again, despite the outrage of many fans of the band, I've have to say that those 14 songs released in november 2008, were the same 14 songs that they were working on in february 2006 (yes, some of them were instrumental tunes at the time). Every other song was somwehat unfinished and some of them has no lyrics at all. I know this information is difficult to digest but it is the truth. And I really love Axl Rose and his music. Please, don't be so rude.
Despite what is said in other forums, this last year (at my house) I have immersed myself in the history of the album. On those great leaks.
By chance, on top of my memory, some of those songs were only "half?" finished:
14 songs of the album (priority songs, only 14 songs to be worked since 2006; not counting Bumblefoot work).
"Oh My God" remake
"Going Down" from Tommy Stinson (I've never met him)
"Silkworms" (renamed)
"The General" (unfinished at the times, I've never heard it but it was instrumental as far as I know)
"Atlas Shrugged" (I really loved that 1999 leak; that was somewhat finished in feb 2006 but Caram... well, that was on the unfinished list, anyway.
"Jackie Chan" (never listened to it until the 2019 leaks. It was on the instrumental unfinished list).
"Cuban Skies", "Oklahoma" (instrumentals, on the unfinished list; I've read last year a user from here has wrote that "Cuban Skies" is about cigars and that but I've never listened the song, anyway. "Oklahoma" was about bombings or something like that but that was on the unfinished with no vocals list as well. Maybe Axl wanted a complete rewrite of those tunes. Maybe, that was why he renamed "Berlin" to that tune).
"Devious Bastard" (I've listened to that song, a Monti/Constanzo tune. It lasted around two minutes but it was better than the rough mixes version. It only has screams by Rose ala "Quick Song")
"Elvis" song (Never listened to it. I really loved "Me & My Elvis" in the 2019 leaks. It was on the list).
Add "Tonto" (instrumental in 2006, never finished) and two of those highly rumored songs ("Seven", "Thyme") and you have that "trilogy"... That's like less than 26 finished tracks since 1999 to 2008. After 2009, surely that "The General" and some other songs has been received new vocals or something like that. "Me & My Elvis", "Atlas Shrugged", "Jackie Chan" has vocals by 2006 but those were rejected for sure. Those were in that "B list material".
I'm going to say it again.
The best of the bunch, the capital songs, has been released in november 2008. I'm not trying to break any fantasy to those who love Axl Rose and his music. The best unreleased material from the "Chinese Democracy sessions" has been leaked in 2019.
I want to say hello to those who love this music. I've left that industry many years ago. I'm going to say it again: I am surprised by the diffusion that my post had. I'm hoping for new music by Axl.
My best wishes to Mr. Rose, Mr. Constanzo, Mrs. Lebeis and all that energetic fanbase. Love to you all.
#103 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 110 weeks ago
Perhaps it is for me the best of the unpublished leaks, sad, melancholic and furious!....and that melody is epic!...I love it!
#104 Re: Guns N' Roses » How do you feel about CD potentially being the last GNR album? » 112 weeks ago
chinese democracy is a bloody masterpiece! Furious, depressive and metal. The variety, the epic, the guitars and the killer voice of Axl make it a helluva killer album!
#105 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 122 weeks ago
He made the most difficult! He renewed a group and its musical line, he had the money and believed in his project, so much so that it infected the musicians with whom he surrounded himself and the music that was created was depressing and furious author rock, but the fanatic Short-sighted, I just wanted a snapshot of the poster! These were emotions and experiences made into conceptual art! He is already bored and dejected by a business that disgusts and a fanaticism that does not understand it! They are not going to get anything with the aroma of the nineties! Someone said for the industry that axl playing the piano among colleagues that he had won this game and that it was a matter of time to see the result! chinese existed and came out, he burned everything he could to the record company and would gather slash and duff to release silkworm! I won by KO. Now the same fans who didn't want Chinese with slash playing silkworm fill stadiums! The riad and the Bedouins cross the line and lose again!
#106 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 122 weeks ago
No problems and grudges! If they hadn't been criticized for everything Chinese, they would have had continuity, there was recorded material and that was the line to follow, they didn't let it! They are guns!, and I'm fine that they talk about whatever! Axl hasn't talked about new music in years, he hasn't committed himself by saying or promising new music! That's slash saving face to seem important, as if he's It would depend! The worst thing that can be done to an artist is to question him before releasing material! Now the music business is not the same as before! the imagination of the fans, the same ones that killed any hint of artistic creativity!
#107 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 122 weeks ago
Would Appetite be just as good without success? Absolutely yes! They don't owe us anything for buying their records and their success doesn't belong to us! Or is it our talent? Are we crazy or what? This was a street band that did what they It came out of the balls and because we like it we believe we have the right to question them artistically? It's called fanaticism! And if they want to continue touring instead of releasing material, it's because of that attitude of belonging that some believe they have towards them! You take it or not Let it go! Chinese Democracy is a fucking masterpiece underestimated by fun that keeps looking back expecting something else and artistically conditioning them!....and Axl is up to his balls to put up with bullshit like that! There have not been...I repeat not There has been no artist of his generation who has had the balls and the talent to reinvent himself artistically against the record company and fans!...that's pure punk!...and we believe that this success belongs to us?to shit!.. .well, tell us! yes Axl calls you tomorrow!...childish and pretentious tantrums! guns and fucking roses!
#108 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 122 weeks ago
The same public that took what they took would say it's not appetite, the illusions were better!...and what the hell did you get? Bile, bile and criticism of the hair, weight, styling? Ridiculous! The same public that gets the same shit live and he's happy!...it's called fanaticism!
#109 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 122 weeks ago
the public has what they deserve! nothing! there is no artist who has been criticized as harshly as axl!...they don't give a shit what they think! he broke his soul to bring out chinese democracy and everything was criticized I repeat, everything! And now the same audience wants new music? Ridiculous and childish!
#110 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 135 weeks ago
There are people doing deconstructions of songs with musical knowledge, they can't put anything more than seconds because the copy skips, YouTube lets you upload what you want and then charges you the premium so you don't see ads, businesses!... and now the group in turn has to allow their work, material to be used without profit at their expense?...while youtube does business!...we have gotten used to all this piracy but youtube does business at the expense of the groups!youtube It's not an NGO, so if you want art and support art!, buy it!