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#181 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Like family members who were dead." » 554 weeks ago
tejastech08 wrote:Yep. Was listening to a podcast yesterday and they were talking about two of Axl's troll ideas that were fortunately shot down by the record label. The first was using a picture of the Challenger shuttle explosion as the cover for Appetite. This was like a year after the tragedy. To say it would have been destroyed by critics and even music fans is an understatement. But looking back at it almost 30 years later it seems brilliant. Axl was ahead of his time in that regard.
I think it's a terrible idea. Luck, chance, fate, timing or whatever you want to call it played a HUGE role in the rise of GNR. Hell, the iconic album cover itself was due to the original being tossed by Geffen. That small move most definitely played a role in AFD's legacy(imagine the album's legacy where the cross doesn't exist).
Using the shuttle for the album would have got negative reaction because it would have been just to get media attention. AFD would have rotted on store shelves. That album did not need manufactured hype/controversy to sell it.
From the time the bike was first mentioned(2002) until the album was finally released(2008), someone at Uni should have vetoed CD's album cover. Has to be one of the worst(if not THE worst) album cover from a mainstream band. Hell, those fake fan made bike covers were all better looking than the real cover.
The alternate CD covers weren't any better either.
I agree 1000% that no band ever looked cooler than GNR did in SCOM, although I think Axl reached his peak in the cool department at Farm Aid. Image wise it was all downhill from there.
I loved the cover. The tiny poverty bike with the enormous basket and GNR plastered on the wall behind was a good image I think.
Said whatever political statement he was trying to make quite well.
#182 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stay of Execution » 555 weeks ago
Here you can play the copyright game. Stay of Execution is currently in step 8.
2014-12-23 NOA E-MAILED - SOU REQUIRED FROM APPLICANT
The NOA is not a registration, but indicates that the mark will be allowed to register after an acceptable Statement of Use (SOU) is filed. The deadline for filing an SOU or request for extension of time (extension request) to file an SOU is calculated from the date the NOA issued. If the applicant does not file an SOU or extension request within 6 months of the date the NOA issued, the application will abandon.
Within 6 months go to step 9a or step 9b or step 9c.
By June 23rd, the copyright claim will be null and void unless Ax applies for a 6-month extension (up to 2,5 years in total) or provides with a Statement of Use. In the latter scenario, the copyright would be his in around August.
Just in time for CD 2
#183 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Like family members who were dead." » 555 weeks ago
He's like Lucas. Someone needs to tell his genius to slow the fuck down so the rest of us can follow.
And like Lucas that type of craziness is exactly why my love for them grows every year.
Georgie boy Lucas?
#184 Re: Guns N' Roses » Big Brain Interview - 'Who's going to clean up the confetti?' » 555 weeks ago
Tom Zutaut was in a Detroit record shop the other week, having a Q & A. Any forum regulars seemed to be out of it, but he did post the intriguing comment on the shops FB page.
Tom Zutaut wrote:I am so excited to share some more GnR tales with as many of you that can stop by on Sat. The MTV story is just the tip of the iceberg! In many ways it will be a preview of an upcoming book I'm working on. This is "Everything You Wanted to Know About GnR But Were Afraid To Ask"…see you there!!!
He's writing a book, then. Figures. As Brain said, anyone who's been around the band long enough would have their own material. A book by Zoot might be a hoot, as he was there to sign the band to Geffen, watch them ascend, fall into a stalemate with Axl on the UYI release, orchestrate 'The Devil' sessions, release the Snakepit album... and come back for a year into the RTB / Bucket / Brain era, which was prolly one of the high watermarks of madness in the CD saga.
Can't trust a word the guy says. He's a snake oil salesman.
#185 Re: The Sunset Strip » I am in love with Taylor Momsen » 555 weeks ago
She is so fucking hot and a kick as singer in a kick ass band. Her guitarists is clearly influenced by Slash in his playing... I wish Slash could do an album with her.
She strikes me as being to fake.
Teenage rocker.
#186 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash in Hampton Beach NH 5/8 » 555 weeks ago
Anybody going to Slash in Hampton NH tomorrow night? Can't even get tix on the secondary market and dying to go. Wanted to see if anyone may be going and have any they are looking to sell.
I'd apologize for the spam but hey...at least it's a post!
Other side of the world.
Saw him in Dublin a few months back.
He's on fire at the minute. Well worth seeing if you can find a ticket.
Well worth a walk up to the box office with a wink and a prayer if you're close enough.
#187 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash Blames Media For Axl Feud. » 555 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:I still can't understand how you don't get that the name issue was dirty business. They signed over the name for whatever reason, but for not a single cent? Is it likely that anyone would do this without major pressure? Hell no. The only exception is if they're so high or crazy that they can't stand for their own interest. Any case, it was dirty. Also, they were pretty much fooled out of their own band and downgraded to employees. Isn't it dirty business?
I have a hard time feeling sorry for millionaire rock stars that get so high or drunk they don't know what the hell they are doing. That is their choice. A very bad choice I might add, but that's the way it goes. They had 2/3rds majority of the partnership. They should have stood up and called Axl's bluff. He would have left the band and they could have hired a new singer.
Me neither. I've never understood the romanticisation of drink and drugs. I also would imagine sharing a band/business with 2 heavy drug users would be a nightmare.
#188 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stay of Execution » 556 weeks ago
Lomax wrote:You just register the term as a trademark and then if someone tries to use the term as an album title you block them.
For example, I couldn't name my next album "Mitsubishi Lancer", because that is a trademarked term so Mitsubishi would block me.In the UK at least I know you have to specifically state what industry your trademark applies too, so this isn't definitely accurate, though it may be different in the US and elsewhere of course
You can search UK trademarks here. If you search "lancer", like your example, you'll see "Lancer Evolution" is only trademarked under class 12 (which is automobiles etc). You would have every right to file for a trademark under Class 9 since it's a completely different industry (Class 9 includes compact discs, DVDs and other digital recording media).
Wills "Mitsubishi Lancer™" album coming soon.
Did not know that Will. That makes more sense though the more I think about it.
Further speculation here... is the title "Stay of Execution" actually something to do with Axl's letter of appeal to the two drug smugglers who were just executed? In that they were in a "stay of execution" leading up to their executions.
The plot thickens...
YESSSSSS
#189 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stay of Execution » 557 weeks ago
A Private Eye wrote:Can't see Axl suddenly going solo at this stage. As we've said before GNR essentially is his solo project these days why bother splitting it further? Could be way off of course but I see GNR related material being a much more likely use for the copyright.
At this point, we can only speculate. On the solo album, the dealmaker could be that he'd get away with it without singing, and could release just about anything without the need for it to be decidedly Guns material.
A Private Eye wrote:Regarding CD Axl successfully stopped Offspring using the name didn't he? Suggesting he had some form of copyright on the name?
While recording in 2003, the band was at a loss for an album title. "When the record's coming together, you try to seriously think of a title for ten minutes and then everyone in the band jokes around for the next two hours with ideas like 'Offspring Bloody Offspring,'" Holland says. "One day, somebody suggested 'Chinese Democracy' and we couldn't stop laughing about it." At that point, the Guns N' Roses album had been in the works for nearly a decade.
The idea grew into a longer title, 'Chinese Democracy (You Snooze, You Lose),' when the band decided to put out a press release as a gag. "We got a lot more attention than we thought we would," Holland says. "I heard Axl [Rose] was looking into legal options but there aren't any, since you can't copyright an album title before it's released." Eventually the band dropped the ruse and titled the album 'Splinter.' -src
BTW, guess who played drums on the album that was (almost) called CD? That's right, Josh Freese.
Of course you can copyright an album title. You just register the term as a trademark and then if someone tries to use the term as an album title you block them.
For example, I couldn't name my next album "Mitsubishi Lancer", because that is a trademarked term so Mitsubishi would block me.
Just because you can't register an album title specifically doesn't mean that you can't register the term in relation to the massive media and marketing projects that go along with the album.
Stay of Execution is most definitely an album title.
You can bet that Geffen/Interscope held the rights over the term Chinese Democracy and that used those rights to force Axl's hand on the release.
Looks like he is making sure he retains control over his next project.
#190 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas Shrugged » 558 weeks ago
Lomax wrote:That's a production music wing of Universal.
All the music we hear in adverts and TV programs is made by independent composers who publish their music through licensing platforms.
This is Universal's licensing platform.
The piece is definitely not GNR.The piece is by Eric/Anne Darken
My interest is in, not who it is by, but what it was created for. Whether it was an advert etc..
They don't create them for a project specifically. Instead she'll have written and recorded it and then submitted it to the publishers library.
Someone looking for music for their specific project can browse the library and choose a piece that suits.
