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#432 Re: Guns N' Roses » Looks like rehearsals have started! » 530 weeks ago

Ha! Someone post that to the 5-year-old Cochella forum thread. I bet the timing would bemuse them 16

He looks reasonably fit, in fact. That should bode well with his vocals. The rest is semantics.

#433 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Autographed GUNS N' ROSES Drumhead Appears To Confirm Lineup » 530 weeks ago

Funny how ten years back, the brouhaha was on the Hammerstein shows in NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaaawkP1r0s

Ron was confirmed on stage and all we got prior was the 11th hour Trunk appearance.

#434 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Autographed GUNS N' ROSES Drumhead Appears To Confirm Lineup » 530 weeks ago

metallex78 wrote:

even some iconic fills that bring the trilogy together.

You could say that again.

Sorum wrote:

"The track I get the most amount of grief for, from drummers, is November Rain. The reason I did that tom fill so many times is I felt it was a musical part. A lot of drummers were like, 'Why'd you play the same fill so much?!'"

"Me and Axl were sitting in the studio late one night, having a couple of drinks and listening to Elton John, a song called Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me."

"Axl goes, 'Do you hear that?' I'm like, 'Yeah, I love Nigel Olson, man'. He says, 'Do that on the song we're going to record tomorrow!' We'd rehearsed it but I didn't have all the fills and stuff, it was just a groove. In the end of November Rain I get into that whole marching band trip."

Mike Portnoy called him out on that 23-time-iconic-fill, only to backpedal.

#435 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash and Duff working on CD II according to MSL » 531 weeks ago

That verse eerily coins the Guns situation as it is.

#436 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash and Duff working on CD II according to MSL » 531 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:

I like the '99 IRS; all it really needed was the Bucket solo to lift it. It's got a nicely raw feel; I'm particularly keen on the choppy, precussive Finck guitar line in the second verse that's (just) still there in the final version, buried under a layer of effects.

This.

The backing tracks are nice n' snappy, and it wholly feels like a band in a room.

#437 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash and Duff working on CD II according to MSL » 531 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

And a rumor I heard was that the label actually has a good relationship with Axl and wanted to release the album in 2010 but Axl said no, so read into that what you will.

Which would've been a rapid rebuilt from the fallout of 2009. Three points come up.

1. Axl after CD. Can you imagine 15 years of creative work, the fruits of which flushed to a music world that has grown indifferent. To say he was hurt by it is putting it mildly.

2. CD2 in 2010. It was pretty much recorded but sort of in limbo in early 2009. Again, 15 years and a lukewarm reception. Care to go back to the studio to work on the leftovers next week, Ax? Thought so. Also, Azoff. Axl was locked into a legal battle with him - and in 1994, that stuff detached him from making music.

3. Geffen terms. Which could've been condescending from Axl's POV in the vein of 'Given the reception of CD, we have calculated a recoup-this-headache no-thrills approach...'

#438 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash and Duff working on CD II according to MSL » 531 weeks ago

An answer may be available through some background.

As time and dollars flew by, pressure mounted at Geffen. The label’s dry spell lingered [in the late 90's], making them more dependent than ever on new music from their heavy hitters. “The Hail Mary that’s going to save the game,” the recording expert who spoke on the condition of anonymity explained, “is a Guns N’ Roses record. It keeps not coming and not coming.” -NYT

Geffen could've, therefore, been keen to cash in on CD. However, the label was merged into Interscope in 1999, with Guns in tow. While the total recording bill was still on Universal's books, Interscope inherited the project with a clean slate. Axl was upset about losing the people he'd worked with dating to back to AFD, while Jimmy Iovine was apparently less concerned then Geffen had been about getting the album out ASAP.

Early on at Interscope, Axl was a good boy. He completed Live Era, included a reworked SCOM to an Adam Sandler movie, released OMG with End of Days and did press with Rolling Stone and MTV. 1999 must've appeared a good year for all concerned, at least there was a forward momentum and a desire to complete and release the album.

But Interscope may have been too big a label to accomodate Guns the way Geffen did. Trent Reznor left in 2007 and later described the company culture thusly.

At Interscope, it felt like we were one of 50 bands, and we didn’t sell as much as Eminem, so no one cared about us,” Reznor says, having finished the coffee and moved on to the Diet Coke. “Combine that with unquestionably wrong move after wrong move in terms of the response to new technologies — I just felt like I could figure things out better than they could.” - Spin

This was NIN, certainly a prominent American band of the 90's/00's, being shuffled into the sidelines in favour of Interscope's bread n' butter, hip-hop. With Axl, the recurring pattern seemed to be, give him enough money to work on it towards something that fits the label's overall back catalogue and tell him to come back once he's done his thing. All that out of control spending happened during the Interscope era, the project funding was cut only after Guns returned to Geffen in the autumn of 2003.

From the top-dog of a starving label to a recluse big-money outfit on a prominent one, and back again to frugality, with less than sympathetic new faces waiting on them. That may be the label-side story of CD.

#439 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash and Duff working on CD II according to MSL » 531 weeks ago

I would say, without ever having met the man one-on-one, that Axl was ready to release the album, but the lack of the support from the label dissuaded him over time. What could've happened was that he'd finally felt done and the labels position made him fret, worry and rethink. When you have someone with such a nebulous sense of time, on Interscope's part that was like giving box of matches to a pyromaniac.

With ChiDem2, I think the reasons tying up the release are slightly different. Axl was visibly hurt and angered by what he saw as CD's rush-release and a BestBuy cashgrab. He had a point there. However, lashing out to Slash makes controversial headlines, but lashing out to Geffen creates (understandably) friction. Add up the industry changes and the fact that Guns, as an entity, is pretty much a dinosaur, and Axl may in this case suffer from a cognitive dissonance, wondering why Guns fails to score a marketing campaign.

Cognitive dissonance, by the way, is more of a state of mind than any sort of psychiatric illness wink

#440 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 531 weeks ago

Pitman may now be recording w/ Danny Carey (TOOL).

Beatrazr things. Funny that, I thought Frank was his resident drummer.

Conspriacies abound.

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