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#4441 Re: The Garden » Mitt's suspends campaign » 908 weeks ago
This election is going to be heating up soon. I've been checking polls in Va, Oh and Tx and Clinton leads in all of them.
The problem is, the 7 primaries/caucuses before that, Obama is leading or expected to win. It's basically a dead heat. Your claim that after Tuesday Obama would be nullified did not come to pass. Her staff is not taking paychecks, she's putting her own money into her campaign and Obama has rasied $9M since Tuesday. His momentum in these next few weeks before Va., Ohio and Texas will change minds. Once he spends massive amounts of time and money in those states, he will close the gap. Look at Missouri, he came back and won that. That was perhaps the biggest of the night, moreso than Cali or NY, which was expected to go to Hilary. He won a state he wasn't expected to. She did not win anything that wasn't expected of her. It is clear she can't covert anyone. It's her core base supporting her. If she loses even a little bit of that to Obama, it's over. She has no margin for error.
#4442 Re: Guns N' Roses » AXL ROSE Negotiating For More Money Before Releasing 'Chinese Democrac » 908 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr2k wrote:I have been saying along that CD is still not handed in.
bingo.
Agree here. Like I've been saying, if it's been handed in, we'd have had a leak by now.
#4443 Re: The Garden » Mitt's suspends campaign » 908 weeks ago
See ya.
#4444 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 908 weeks ago
I don't see, Randall, how you can say Hilary is outperforming Obama when he was won 8 states outright to her 6. Regardless, it will not be decided after tonight as you suggested.
#4445 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 908 weeks ago
Obama wins Minn.
#4446 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 908 weeks ago
bigbri wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:But none of those races mean anything, they don't provide any delegates. That's the issue here. Obama could win all the states around Colorado and it wouldn't mean anything if Clinton won Cali by a substantial margin. I know people hate to hear it, but some states don't even play a factor in the process. This is something McCain needs to consider; he's won NY and CA, but he stands no chance of winning them in November. The same states that matter in November are the ones that matter now.
But they do mean something. Hilary wins Mass., for example, based on the area of population she wins. Obama actually wins more of the state, thus more districts, thus more delegates. Like Nevada. Hilary won Vegas, Obama won more of the state. Your headline the next day was: Hilary wins Nevada. Well, Ok, but Obama got more delegates out of it.
Do you not understand how that works or are you just trying to be argumentative?
I totally understand how it works, but states like Hawaii and DC don't provide any delegates of value. Hillary is still leading in delegates. Delegates still basically follow the popular vote and Hillary is still leading the popular vote overall. Wait a few hours and you'll see that Clinton won more delegates tonight than Obama, increasing her edge. People are going to take notice of that. You can't say Obama has momentum when he continually is outperformed by Hillary.
Yes, Hilary will win more delegates, but Obama will keep it close, and like I said, he is ahead in states with primaries coming up.
#4447 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 908 weeks ago
bigbri wrote:Randall, the delegates are gonna remain close in the Dems race because, like I said, Obama is winning a vast majority of the suburban vote vs. Hilary in the big city. He's winning more geographically. And there are races after Super Tuesday that Obama is leading in, such as Hawaii and D.C. He just needs to keep it close tonight. Then he can close the gap based on those future races.
But none of those races mean anything, they don't provide any delegates. That's the issue here. Obama could win all the states around Colorado and it wouldn't mean anything if Clinton won Cali by a substantial margin. I know people hate to hear it, but some states don't even play a factor in the process. This is something McCain needs to consider; he's won NY and CA, but he stands no chance of winning them in November. The same states that matter in November are the ones that matter now.
But they do mean something. Hilary wins Mass., for example, based on the area of population she wins. Obama actually wins more of the state, thus more districts, thus more delegates. Like Nevada. Hilary won Vegas, Obama won more of the state. Your headline the next day was: Hilary wins Nevada. Well, Ok, but Obama got more delegates out of it.
Do you not understand how that works or are you just trying to be argumentative?
#4448 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 908 weeks ago
Randall, the delegates are gonna remain close in the Dems race because, like I said, Obama is winning a vast majority of the suburban vote vs. Hilary in the big city. He's winning more geographically. And there are races after Super Tuesday that Obama is leading in, such as Hawaii and D.C. He just needs to keep it close tonight. Then he can close the gap based on those future races.
#4449 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 908 weeks ago
Hilary gets Mass. and NJ. That's big. Funny thing is, in Mass. you may see Obama get more delegates there like he did in Nevada, because most of Hilary's support comes from the big cities. Obama gets more of the suburbs, across the board.
#4450 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 908 weeks ago
You beat me to it, James.
