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#5031 Re: The Garden » Olympic champion Michael Phelps busted with a bong... » 856 weeks ago

Bono wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

If you can explain to me how this makes these people unable to do their jobs well...then you have a point. If your job is to be sober all the time, then you have a point.

I do not care that he smoked weed and even don't care if he does it again.

Like I said in my first post. I'm not getting into whether weed should  be leaglized or what the health effects are BUT the fact is weed is illegal. DUI's are illegal. That's the difference. Role models, people kids look up to, leaders, people who represent your country on a  national stage commiting illegal acts for all to see. That's the difference. Figure it out because it's an extremely valid point whether you agree or not.

This isn't about your's or mine or anyone elses opinion on weed, it's simply a  fact that it's illegal, he's paid to keep a clean image, and in fact when it comes to his real job the drug is a banned substance as well so..... it's not about what we think it's about what is.

only Americans freak out about this stuff

#5032 Re: The Garden » Olympic champion Michael Phelps busted with a bong... » 856 weeks ago

Bono wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

I think this is quite funny and I do not hold anything against Phelps. I don't see how you guys can point the finger either, considering you've all smoked weed before too...If it was okay enough for you to do it, it should be okay enough for him to do it...

Don't give that crap about how this is a different circumstance, because it really isn't. It boils down to holding yourself to the same standard that you hold anyone else to, regardless of position or class standing.

You're completely wrong. None of us have ever been paid millions of dollars in endorsements. None of us have ever had our image attatched to a  product. None of us have ever been promoted as a role model. Thats' the difference and it's a huge difference whether you aknowledge it or not. If you are in a  position like Michael Phelps you don't smoke weed(in public) you don't get busted for DUI's. It's simple.

Tell me this. If Peyton Manning or Tom Brady gets busted using a bong is that o.k.? I mean it's o.k.  for you it must be o.k. for them right? Going by your reasoning it would be fine as well if Barack Obama was photgraphed getting high. Is that cool? Not a  chance.  When you're in certain positions it's your obligation to keep a clean image.  You're being paid and paid insanely well to do so.  Not to mention regardless of  what any of us think weed is still illegal.  That's the difference.

If you can explain to me how this makes these people unable to do their jobs well...then you have a point. If your job is to be sober all the time, then you have a point.

I do not care that he smoked weed and even don't care if he does it again.

#5033 Re: The Garden » Olympic champion Michael Phelps busted with a bong... » 857 weeks ago

I think this is quite funny and I do not hold anything against Phelps. I don't see how you guys can point the finger either, considering you've all smoked weed before too...If it was okay enough for you to do it, it should be okay enough for him to do it...

Don't give that crap about how this is a different circumstance, because it really isn't. It boils down to holding yourself to the same standard that you hold anyone else to, regardless of position or class standing.

#5034 Re: The Garden » In the Wake of a 100-0 Win, a Texas Coach Loses His Job » 857 weeks ago

supaplex wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

I'll garuntee you that the primary purpose of high school sports is not competition. It's ONE of the purposes...not the ONLY.

I really don't get how this is so hard for some of you to understand. You sound like people who would just walk over a man having a heart attack laying on the street and carry on with your day.

The winning and losing is not the issue...and don't try to make it the issue...it's the disrespect...you prove NOTHING by beating a lesser team by 100 points...absolutely NOTHING.

Why don't you go beat your Grandpa up...I hope that makes you feel good. You can beat his ass and you know it...so go show him. Slap him around a bit...it'll make you feel good. You're no pussy...you won't be part of this pussification of America! Don't let them make you a pussy.

I'm gonna go punch some babies after I'm done with this message...and maybe rape a few women...because I WON'T be a pussy!!! I won't!!!

Maybe I'll get a gun and kill some minority kids...cuz I ain't no pussy!! Hell no I ain't no pussy!!!! They're taking all our jobs and tax money anyway!!!!

I'm American! I drink my cheap beer, drive my ford...and listen to Toby Keith...that's the ONLY way to be American!

you compare a basketball game with raping, beating up babies and physical violence. you might want to check your post again. because for you it seems like it's the same thing.

they shouldn't have got their panties in a bunch over a basketball game. it's nothing like all the stuff you listed there. the coach didn't apologize and he lost his job. i say that's not enough, throw the a-hole in jail. maybe then we'll get some justice done. because winning a game 100-0 is just like raping women and beating up babies.

k

#5035 Re: The Garden » In the Wake of a 100-0 Win, a Texas Coach Loses His Job » 857 weeks ago

you're right...there is no difference...and to be honest...it's really low my list of things to worry about...

you're right...the media did blow it out of proportion...it really doesn't matter in the big picture...

I just completely disagree with anyone who believes this is okay to do to another person/group of people.

what did you mean by outclassed?

#5036 Re: The Garden » In the Wake of a 100-0 Win, a Texas Coach Loses His Job » 857 weeks ago

I'll garuntee you that the primary purpose of high school sports is not competition. It's ONE of the purposes...not the ONLY.

I really don't get how this is so hard for some of you to understand. You sound like people who would just walk over a man having a heart attack laying on the street and carry on with your day.

The winning and losing is not the issue...and don't try to make it the issue...it's the disrespect...you prove NOTHING by beating a lesser team by 100 points...absolutely NOTHING.

Why don't you go beat your Grandpa up...I hope that makes you feel good. You can beat his ass and you know it...so go show him. Slap him around a bit...it'll make you feel good. You're no pussy...you won't be part of this pussification of America! Don't let them make you a pussy.

I'm gonna go punch some babies after I'm done with this message...and maybe rape a few women...because I WON'T be a pussy!!! I won't!!!

Maybe I'll get a gun and kill some minority kids...cuz I ain't no pussy!! Hell no I ain't no pussy!!!! They're taking all our jobs and tax money anyway!!!!

I'm American! I drink my cheap beer, drive my ford...and listen to Toby Keith...that's the ONLY way to be American!

#5037 Re: The Garden » In the Wake of a 100-0 Win, a Texas Coach Loses His Job » 857 weeks ago

Oh god...I can't believe some of you support this kind of behavior...

the pussification of America? please...

You're acting like this high school girl's game is the pros...I don't think it's quite that seroius. There was no reason for this...and I agree with the decision to fire him. Not so much because of the game...but because of his insubordination...he was told to apoligize...and he wouldn't.

Oh wait...so it's okay for the coach to beat up on someone littler than him, but not okay for someone to beat up on him>

You're all so predictable...me...aggressive, dominant man...you...weak and pathetic....raaaaaaaaaaaaarr...watch me beat you 100-0...me superior, you weak...

evolve a little, please

#5038 Re: The Garden » Blagojevich » 857 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

I personally have not seen anything this guy did that was overly wrong. At least not enough that I should care.

But the neo-cons on Fox News have sure had a field day with it. This poor guy was being called Blagsonofabitch and trashed, before anyone truely knew what he did wrong.

Media conditioning to hate this guy imo.

Are you kidding me? Do you know anything about this situation? He was caught red handed trying to SELL a senate seat...

Not to mention the countless other things he's done that were questionable...why does his wife have a job she's not qualified for right now?

Listen...Illinois politics are as corrupt as they get...and even the people here in Chicago give their politicians a long leash on this kind of stuff...

but make no mistake about it...this guy is a corrupt ass hole...as corrupt as they come...and I AM a Dem!

#5039 Re: The Garden » Child Services Strike Again » 858 weeks ago

Why do you all assume that's the only reason...I believe the original poster admitted that there is probably more to the story...

Those names raise a flag and draw attention to the situation...more had to be occurring for these steps to be taken...no legal government agency would approve such a move based on names alone. I think you're all being naive to think that was the sole reason for the action that was taken.

#5040 Re: The Garden » Child Services Strike Again » 858 weeks ago

Saikin wrote:
Tommie wrote:
Saikin wrote:

This is bullshit as far as i'm concerned.  Unless they have sound reasoning for doing what they did.

They named their kid "ADOLF HITLER".  14

Maybe its the jew in me, but I find this reason enough.

And your point is?  Naming their child that does not mean they are horrible and abusive parents and their children need to be taken away.  Unless they had sound proof the children were being abused, they had no right to break up that family.

I'd find it offensive if someone named their child Paris Hilton Campbell, but that doesn't mean the child needs to be taken away just because the person he/she was named after is an awful excuse for a human being. 16

And i know it's a jump to compare Hitler and Paris, but the same principles apply.  There will always be people in this world that hate other groups of people, by all accounts these parents fall in that category, but that doesn't make them unfit parents.

And what's your point? these people with good intentions go into the child welfare business...and they're damned if they do and damned if the don't.

Imagine six years from now when the parents are given this kid a swastika (sp?) tatoo...and you'd be saying...where was child services?

or...six years from now they're perfectly normal...with wonderful social skills and socially stigmatized names...

You all have the benefit of hindsight bias and arm-chair quarterbacking up difficult decisions...I think erring on the side of caution in this case was the way to go...

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