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misterID
 Rep: 475 

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misterID wrote:

I don’t know what you’re saying here. They all do this, they’ve always done this, that’s why they won’t change it.

Anyone really think our special forces and CIA aren’t helping in Ukraine?

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

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polluxlm wrote:

I'm not sure if help is the right word.

James
 Rep: 664 

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James wrote:

That one hit on the Chechen rebels crossing into Ukraine to go after Zelensky but were tortured/massacred near that gas station and had their bodies laid out in the letter Z had CIA hit squad written all over it.

No way in hell could Ukranian troops/intelligence track those guys down so quickly.

I think some of our special forces are embedded with Ukraine troops...at least to help with targeting. If not, they're getting a fuck ton of lucky shots.

I've also wondered if some of our drones are doing more than just gathering intelligence. This would be difficult to disguise though.

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

I don’t know what you’re saying here. They all do this, they’ve always done this, that’s why they won’t change it.

Anyone really think our special forces and CIA aren’t helping in Ukraine?

What do you mean always?

In Wisconsin half the state votes for Democrats but on a state level the Republicans have a supermajority. Much the same in states like North Carolina and Pennsylvania.

I'm only aware of the extreme tactics taken since the tea party came into power in 2010. Yes...tweak here and there in one way or the other...but the tea party took it upon itself in Wisconsin and made a man who receives roughly 7,000 votes more powerful than that governor through gerrymandering.

I feel that the period of 2010-2020 was per versed by tea party members in very select states.

I truly feel happy that Democrats didn't take it from 2020-30. One bad turn deserves another.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

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misterID wrote:

Gerrymandering literally started in 1814. California Democrats have been the biggest culprits. And that was way before the tea party existed. So were republicans in the right to fight back? The answer is: they’re both the same.

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

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polluxlm wrote:

With the decades long mismanagement of democrats and republicans I wonder when we will see independent Presidential candidates start to win elections. Like ancient Rome where the popularis bypassed the traditional forms of government to gain power.

Then again maybe the machine is too strong.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

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misterID wrote:

I don’t think a third party is realistic, it’ll have to be something like Trump where someone basically takes over a party. The Republican Party is probably a lot easier for an outsider/independent to accomplish this, because it already happened. It seems the Democratic Party has too many established people in control with their talons deep in the infrastructure, which is why you got Hillary and Biden as the nominees and not Amy Klobuchar or Andrew Yang.

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:

I’m not convinced that a cult of personality taking over any current party is any better than what we already have….other than Trumps tax cut that makes us more the Corporate States of America than United, all he did was bluster and take credit for things he had nothing to do with.

Especially when you consider that Congress is there to basically make sure nothing happens.

And when your campaign moto is basically‘own the Libs’ then all you have is a carnival barker.

My favorite part of all of it is that not a single one of your typical Trump supporters would ever be allowed in Mar-a-lago.

And Trumps debate style is straight out of a high school locker room….he basically taunts and yells over people but never really says anything except, ‘I’m awesome and you all suck.’

In a country whose only value left is money and the economy is based on ‘hooray for me and fuck you’ - this is the best we will ever get.

In a country that thinks Trump is a successful business man but somehow pays less income tax than someone who makes $35k/year, you can’t expect any really deep thoughts and analysis. You can’t really expect to reach people who simultaneously hate socialism but idolize a businessman who uses the US treasury as a mechanism for corporate socialism. Trumps business plans have intentional losses embedded into the financials. An unprofitable business by design. What a genius!

A bubble economy created by massive tax cuts and massive deficits creates an illusion among the rabid that he really was some kind of economic genius.

He’s a one trick pony who puts things on a credit he knows he never plans on paying anyway. The man is completely lacking in integrity and intelligence. And his constant self promotion is shameless.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: Current Events Thread

misterID wrote:

I wasn’t talking about Trump, he’s toast imo. I’m thinking someone more like a Ross Perot.

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:

I’d like more insight on that because he’s been racking up a war chest like no one else has done before.

I don’t see why he’d play such a role in January 6th if he didn’t have a problem doing it all over again.

I said it before and I’ll say it again, he’d tear this country all the way to the ground if it meant a W for him.

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