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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
James wrote:A good example would be
This I Love. Isn't there practically another song buried in the mix?
Catcher and Better. Way too fucking abrasive. Clean it up and let these songs breathe.
CD - Remove the garbage from it.
Oh...and get that bass up in the mix.
It wouldn't take much for someone to improve the album.
Agreed...a good example to me is the title track - the demo of that is so powerful in the verses with Tommy's bass chugging loudly, and its almost totally lost in the final mix.
I know this will be an unpopular idea with you guys as you're big bucket fans etc....but I was listening to Hardschool, Perhaps and Absurd in the car...then swapped over to Chinese - and it was so obvious to me how badly it needs a rock mix to fit with the back catalogue.
It's a wonderful artistic album as it was. But I would love to hear a studio of Slash/Duff on the title track, TIL (with the scream vocals from the dance remix), Catcher and better, with re-recorded parts from Slash/Duff. Make it as like a bonus EP or something to fill in time before their next originals project. It doesn't have to replace the original version in the shops either, more like a special edition disc 2 or something. It's just every time I see Slash and Duff play them live I realise how hollow those recordings sounded in the final mix.
It's not unprecedented...
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
I’d be up for a re-record of This I Love.
CD’s biggest problem is Ron
Other than the mix in general...I agree.
Its next problem is they turned Tommy into the Jason Newstead of the band.
It's actually disrespectful...can you imagine Duff's bass being buried like that?
- tejastech08
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
The final version of Catcher in the Rye is a disaster. Massive waste of potential.
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
The final version of Catcher in the Rye is a disaster. Massive waste of potential.
The one off the village disc is perfect. I said it when the leaks happened that I believe catcher, perhaps, and atlas were all linked together. At least in Axls mind. Kinda like a trilogy but not that deep.
- tejastech08
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
tejastech08 wrote:The final version of Catcher in the Rye is a disaster. Massive waste of potential.
The one off the village disc is perfect. I said it when the leaks happened that I believe catcher, perhaps, and atlas were all linked together. At least in Axls mind. Kinda like a trilogy but not that deep.
Thank God the locker leak happened. Finally got a clean, high quality copy of the Brian May version of Catcher. The old leak from 2006 was pretty low audio quality by comparison.
- TheSundanceKid
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What’s the locker room leaks again?
Also, I have ate my words. Good on the band for releasing music.
Hopefully an album is on the horizon.
- Bill Brasky
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
who can tell me if they remember this...?
"and they say the stars don't look the same, I may have changed yet I have my soul to claim"
I know it was allegedly written by the same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry before it was released although that's not entirely proven I don't think.
I havn't thought about this for years but If they are real lyrics, surely the word soul would suggest Soulmonster? If I remember right the same person was the first to mention In This Grave
So Demolition posted those lyrics about a Soul To Claim on htgth ? The Same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry in 2007 on htgth ?
If that's the case wouldn't i and few others be right that Monsters isn't Soul Monster ?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Once again kudos to you @shacklermyrye and props to you @guts for remembering the source the lyrics all those years later.
@sp1at you also said
Beltrami told someone on my site years ago that Seven was based on the movie of the same name."
If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? (Page 49) / Guns N' Roses / GNR Evolution - Guns N Roses Forum
Seven is film about the 7 deadly sins.
So far the only cd era songs not counting 4 kohd versions with religous overtones are Oh My God and State Of Grace. Since we know Seven isn't Oh My God is logical to assume I'm correct with my theory that Seven is State Of Grace ?
- Shacklermyrye
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
Shacklermyrye wrote:who can tell me if they remember this...?
"and they say the stars don't look the same, I may have changed yet I have my soul to claim"
I know it was allegedly written by the same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry before it was released although that's not entirely proven I don't think.
I havn't thought about this for years but If they are real lyrics, surely the word soul would suggest Soulmonster? If I remember right the same person was the first to mention In This Grave
So Demolition posted those lyrics about a Soul To Claim on htgth ? The Same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry in 2007 on htgth ?
If that's the case wouldn't i and few others be right that Monsters isn't Soul Monster ?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Once again kudos to you @shacklermyrye and props to you @guts for remembering the source the lyrics all those years later.
@sp1at you also said
Beltrami told someone on my site years ago that Seven was based on the movie of the same name."
If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? (Page 49) / Guns N' Roses / GNR Evolution - Guns N Roses ForumSeven is film about the 7 deadly sins.
So far the only cd era songs not counting 4 kohd versions with religous overtones are Oh My God and State Of Grace. Since we know Seven isn't Oh My God is logical to assume I'm correct with my theory that Seven is State Of Grace ?
Man I had forgotten about those lyrics completely lol, that post of mine must be from very early in this thread somewhere.
I would need to look into the whole thing again to be sure, but the way I recall it, it was same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry before release that posted those. People who remember it seemed to assume he was bullshitting as when Monsters leaked it didn't have those lyrics, but obviously knowing the lyrics to Sorry before they were out there suggests this poster either had heard or had actual stuff. Who knows maybe it was Sebastian Bach lol
When Monsters leaked I knew at least that the word Monsters was involved as just like Evader I had spent hours pulling the audio from the VIP_CELL clip & Monster was pretty much the only word I got right. I probably should have twigged that the song wasn't actually The General at all, but we all believed it was as GNR twitter had stated that intro music for gigs was mostly The General..
Anyway I understand that people are split on if they were once upon a time part of the same song or not. I don't know for sure, but I do know that the version of Monsters that leaked is like a structurally butchered version of what it once was, and should have been.
It's a shame we never got that version but you can always trust GN'R to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
