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Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

Axlin16 wrote:

As for Palin, I don't think she's bad, I guess, but i'm failing to see why Hilary supporters, who's a Democrat, would vote for McCain because of Palin, a woman who is pro-life, pro-creationism, and pretty conservative on almost every issue.

And I hate to break it to her, if you are anti-gay marriage, you AREN'T "pro gay".

If Hilary supporters turn around and vote for McCain because his VP is Palin, a woman, I think it's a pretty clear cut showing that people, mainly woman aren't voting for Obama because they are RACISTS. It would reenforce an attitude of "we'd rather have the WHITE woman, than the BLACK man". How else can you look at it that way? And i'm white.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

PaSnow wrote:

Getting off Oil altogether would do just as much. And don't talk about stock markets after 8 years of Bush. The Dow Jones (standard indicator of stocks) was 4,000 when Clinton took office, when he left it was nearly 11,000. You know what it is today?? 11,500. Gas was just over $1 when Clinton took office, after 8 years it was $1,47. Know what it is today? about $3.50 having exceeded $4. So don't talk about the economy when referring to Republicans failed policies.

Also, I truely feel the future of wind energies, Solar, E85 will create a new boom similar to that of the dot com boom of the 90's. Middle class tax breaks allow for more spending in the economy, more investing, and new companies investing in alternate energies add to investing in these new companies. Increasing my 401k plans value;-) That guy Boone Pickens is invested all over the place there, just waiting for it to take off. What's McCain bringing to the table?? Digging in Alaska?!

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

PaSnow wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

As for Palin, I don't think she's bad, I guess, but i'm failing to see why Hilary supporters, who's a Democrat, would vote for McCain because of Palin, a woman who is pro-life, pro-creationism, and pretty conservative on almost every issue.

And I hate to break it to her, if you are anti-gay marriage, you AREN'T "pro gay".

If Hilary supporters turn around and vote for McCain because his VP is Palin, a woman, I think it's a pretty clear cut showing that people, mainly woman aren't voting for Obama because they are RACISTS. It would reenforce an attitude of "we'd rather have the WHITE woman, than the BLACK man". How else can you look at it that way? And i'm white.

I agree with you, and to be honest, I don't think many will. It helps sure up the conservative base, but I think Huckabee would have done that as well, he is also a governor, but he would be more prepared to take office than her (not that I'd want him, but he is more qualified). I really hope McCain didn't think Hilary supporters would vote for him because any woman was on the ticket. It's pretty insulting, saying one woman is just as good as the next. Honestly I think he should have chosen Tim Pawlenty, even though I don't know much about him, but there would seem to be more qualified, as is Mike Huckabee. Wouldn't you be pretty pissed off if you were passed over for a promotion for some young hot chick, even though you had years of expereince over her?? I would. And also Charlie Crist would probably be more qualified, and also probably bring a state.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

PaSnow wrote:

Sarah Palin "bitch" tape released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnBZE

She sure doesn't sound very bright in this exchange that took place during her run for governor of Alaska. The way she's giggling like a school girl while her opponent is being called a bitch makes her sound more like someone running for high school student council than governorship. Her inane tee-heeing speaks volumes. I'm beginning to wonder if John McCain even vetted her.

Communist China
 Rep: 130 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

Palin is too conservative on social issues to grab many Hillary supporters. Also this is going to make Hillary get out and campaign more for Obama I think. You don't need to attack Palin, as James seems to suggest, the Dems should just keep focusing on McCain. Obama may not have much experience, but he is a person people know and after all this time no real scandals have gotten major attention. That is because they are bullshit. Obama is as clean as a politician can be, and Palin is already dealing with some stuff (that brother-in-law thing, the 'I don't know what the VP does' video) because those things actually happened.

I think McCain/Palin could make a good white house pair, if they avoid going after social issues and focus on economics and foreign policy. But I still think Obama is right for this time. He's been labeled a tax and spend liberal. Which of the ast 4 presidents was considered a tax and spend liberal? Which one had surplus? Hich 3 of the last 4 presidents were 'fiscal conservatives' like McCain? Which 3 had billion dollar deficits?

The more I see about Palin in the news, the more she seems like a young Dolores Umbridge. haha. Hope that isn't the case.

Biden will destroy her in the debates if he wants to and Obama will handle McCain with little trouble.

Saikin
 Rep: 109 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

Saikin wrote:
Communist China wrote:

Palin is too conservative on social issues to grab many Hillary supporters. Also this is going to make Hillary get out and campaign more for Obama I think. You don't need to attack Palin, as James seems to suggest, the Dems should just keep focusing on McCain. Obama may not have much experience, but he is a person people know and after all this time no real scandals have gotten major attention. That is because they are bullshit. Obama is as clean as a politician can be, and Palin is already dealing with some stuff (that brother-in-law thing, the 'I don't know what the VP does' video) because those things actually happened.

I think McCain/Palin could make a good white house pair, if they avoid going after social issues and focus on economics and foreign policy. But I still think Obama is right for this time. He's been labeled a tax and spend liberal. Which of the ast 4 presidents was considered a tax and spend liberal? Which one had surplus? Hich 3 of the last 4 presidents were 'fiscal conservatives' like McCain? Which 3 had billion dollar deficits?

The more I see about Palin in the news, the more she seems like a young Dolores Umbridge. haha. Hope that isn't the case.

Biden will destroy her in the debates if he wants to and Obama will handle McCain with little trouble.

I do agree with you on this while i've been looking more into Palin this morning. 

She's way too conservative to gain a lot of Hilary supporters, besides the ones who don't know a damn thing about Hilary and just wanted a woman, then they may go for McCain. 

The facts don't lie in this case.  Obama may be inexperienced, and young, but it's not really lack of experience i'm voting for, it's policies.  Obama is just about as incorrupt as you can get in a politician.  Experienced to me translates into dirty and corrupt.  I strongly believe we need someone fresh, with new ideas, and someone who isn't fully outside of the general public's mindset.  There is no way McCain can relate to the average American.  He doesn't get it.  Obama on the other hand, i feel he can relate to the average American a hell of a lot better than McCain ever could.

We need another Clinton type presidency, one where the budget will be balanced and we may even have a surplus.  Our economy is falling apart.  The climate change is really going to start hitting us hard in the coming years, and McCain has proven with his record that he doesn't get it.  He's voted against changing our nation's energy time and time again, so what makes us think he's going to actually change it when he becomes president?  Like Obama said, i don't want to take a 10% chance that this guy doesn't turn out to be Bush II. 

The only way we are going to get cheap energy is if we start to eliminate the deficit, and start investing in alternative energy.  I don't agree with Obama's 'clean coal' idea, but it's better than McCain's 'leave it alone' policy.  I don't believe in 'clean' coal.  I think we need to move even more towards wind, solar and water energy.  A town by where i live is just one big plain.  It's got an airport, and the AFB is right next to it.  It would be a great idea to put it some wind and solar energy there.  It could easily generate enough power for the neighboring cities and the AFB. 

I still hope it's Obama.  He's got my vote.  Our dependency on foreign oil needs to be stopped.  We can't go to war and expect to lower the costs of oil.  We need to take actions to do it ourselves. 


CC, i really see your young Dolores Umbridge idea.  Scares the piss out of me.  16

myillusions
 Rep: 5 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

myillusions wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Yeah, she's as close to a Reagan style republican that this country will ever get, and people know that. Its an amazing choice, and watching the Obama "change" bandwagon jump all over an outsider with executive credentials is gonna be great.

Well said James Lofton! I really like McCain's choice of Sarah Palin for Vice President!

She's definitely a fresh breath of air!!!

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

James wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Sarah Palin "bitch" tape released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnBZE

She sure doesn't sound very bright in this exchange that took place during her run for governor of Alaska. The way she's giggling like a school girl while her opponent is being called a bitch makes her sound more like someone running for high school student council than governorship. Her inane tee-heeing speaks volumes. I'm beginning to wonder if John McCain even vetted her.

If thats all the ammo dems got, you guys are in for a looooooooong 3 months. These little games aren't going to work anymore. I thought this was all about "change"? Its only about change when it suits their interest, and then when it gets hot in the kitchen, the change gets thrown out the window and its the usual attack bullshit.

I thought we were tired of "politics as usual"? Apparently not.


Biden will destroy her in the debates if he wants to and Obama will handle McCain with little trouble.

Not even close. Obama isn't destroying anything. McCain has offered him debates for months and he always denies the request. Obama knows there's potential for a Reagan type owning on the national stage and he's delaying the inevitable for as long as possible.

I hope Biden is as confident as you are about him "destroying" Palin. It'll be great political theater.

Palin has more executive experience than anyone on either ticket, and this fact is causing dems to go into attack mode.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

James wrote:

Sarah Palin: America's Chance



Pretty in life usually does not mean a great deal inside, but in Sarah Palin one finds a lady who carried a down syndrome baby last year to full term and delivered that baby in putting into life all of the things in the Bible, the United States Constitution and what so many people who talk of "life" have nothing to back up what they are saying but words.
There is something telling about a lady who has invested now her remaining life to nurture one child that the world said she could have aborted.

I know someone in history who came to the west to become who they would be. That person had his wife die in child birth, came to west and became the person only the west can make you to be a world leader. That person was Theodore Roosevelt in caring about American issues of caring for Americans, but at the same time knowing the need for a national American to keep the nation safety.
There is just something about anyone west of the Mississippi from California to Alaska, to Texas to North Dakota that makes them a breed of people who are mirror images of Kit Carson.

Sarah Palin was educated in Idaho. She went back to Alaska and ran for her local government, because she wanted more paved roads for her town. She didn't complain and accept the status quo, but did something about it.

She was appointed to oversee the ethics of her state on oil and ended up resigning because she would not submit to her own party's corruption in Alaska.

Alone, without party support, this woman set out 2 years ago to be governor of her state and she was elected to be Alaska's popular governor.

I wonder in that how people will savage this woman who is a lady. Immediately, I read of an Obama release attacking her as "from a town of 9000 people" in that red state bigotry coming from elitists who think that only metropolitan areas are sophisticated enough to be near elected offices.
Whether one agrees about opening Alaska up to drilling and pumping oil to keep oil money here and get America out of the Middle East bloodbath, Sarah Palin believes in it and has been pushing for it.

There is footage of her before any of it would matter of Gov. Palin live firing an M 16 rifle on the firing line. A lifelong NRA member whose favorite meal is moose stew and who would rather be out in the wilds and yet is what a Westerner would term a hard sell.
(For those who do not know what a hard sell is, that is a person who against all of odds will not run, but instead decides to live and die on the ground they stand. That is the look in this woman's eyes.)

5 children, a son serving in the Army, environmentalist, oil drilling, tax cutter, hunter, fisher, Christian, pro life and pro Second Amendment.

The surest sign Sarah Palin is a nightmare to the elitist press are the condescending remarks in "I'm sure she is a nice woman and mother, but not qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency".
Unlike Kenyan citizen Barack Obama, Sarah Palin actually is qualified under the Constitution where he is disqualified.

The fact is Gov. Palin actually has managed and run government for 17 years, unlike Sen. Obama and Sen. Obama who have been in the Senate.

Sarah Palin will be savaged by the elitists who do not understand exactly what she brings to the race. She cements the Christian, Patriot, Pro Life vote.
She cements now the Reagan country vote east of the Sierra Nevadas, west of the Mississippi, south to Texas and north to the Canadian line.
She gives a bigger margin in the entire south into Florida which John McCain needs.

This leaves the midwest states of Wisconsin to Pennsylvania. Currently the trends are toward McCain in all, but the must need state of Pennsylvania for Barack Obama.
Pennsylvania has working families, hunters, football fans and now Sarah Palin has put Pennsylvania back into play.

This is why Barack Obama was stuttering more than usual today in Pennsylvania and Joe Biden was scowling enormously.

This is what this blog was speaking of last winter in telling Americans that if a Richard Nixon was around to run a campaign that he could so splinter the Democrats that a landslide was in the making by Barack Obama leading the ticket. The key to this was putting a strong Conservative woman on the ticket.
John McCain's accomplished just that.

That is why this blog stated before Barack Obama picked Joe Biden that he needed instead to pick someone like Maria Schriver and if readers remember, this blog was telling people that Gov. Sarah Palin was going to be the choice of John McCain.
Barack Obama picked an old guy with experience to counter McCain when he needed to pick a woman to counter Sarah Palin.

In Denver, lightning might have struck for Barack Obama, but it is Sarah Palin's thunder which is resonating over the land.
It does not matter the condescending elitists now scrambling to make her a "only a wife and mother" as if that is a bad thing or whispering Dan Quayle's name, because that is a debate that is more than open to trounce Obama on as Dan Quayle was proven right on everything he spoke of including using Queen's English is tomatoe.

Sarah Palin is important to people who would never be thought of being important in people like Lawrence Sinclair for when she starts the massive erosion on Obama's numbers then the lawsuits he is filing with become major hits. Lawrence Sinclair already had the Delaware syndicate backing off and now with Sarah Palin all sorts of things like Tony Rezko to the Gov. of Illinois in criminal trouble have the opportunity to tell what they really know about Sen. Obama.

This leads into the work of Attorney Phil Berg in his lawsuit exposing Barack Obama's foreign birth. What was not even a whisper can now as Barack Obama's numbers tank be the out for Democrats to dump him and put in a stand in candidate like Al Gore, so Hillary will at least have a party to run with in 2012.
What Sarah Palin has opened the door for is a landslide for the GOP in drawing off 5% of Obama voters at the least which means a 10% spread and that is landslide numbers.

Sarah Palin is America's chance as she can open up Alaskan oil and gas so a secure America can keep it's oil money in America and not funding terrorists. Her presence has the opportunity to not leave Mr. Putin so much additional funding to act out the way he has and her presence has the opportunity to reign in Mr. Brzezinski as in the White House there would be both McCain and Palin children on active duty in combat and not the lawyer type which the Democrats offer.

I know women like Sarah Palin as I live among them and are related to many of the same hard sell types. They have inner strength and do not rattle. In her you have a Westerner like the hardy souls who civilized and settled America and in that Democrats have made the most egregious of mistakes in attacking her on just being a wife and mother from a small town and small state, because if that ticks me off it infuriates the American population.

I had no faith in John McCain and I did not like the guy, but in the past 28 days he has run a brilliant campaign. Choosing Sarah Palin who I knew he would choose while the elites of the press all were picking those weak moderate males was no surprise and was his first choice as President.
Mr. McCain consulted with the other most important woman in this in Cindy McCain who is tough as nails too and they agreed on the choice.

I stated months ago I would much rather Cindy McCain be the McCain on the presidential ticket for the reason she has handled the impossible in John McCain. In Sarah Palin, there is the chance for America coming from it's roots, untainted by the clique and setting a simple agenda of keeping America out of Eurasia by keeping American interests in America.

I will not be saying anything negative about Sarah Palin in this campaign for the reason as I started this commentary with, she is a Mother who knowing she was going to have a downs syndrome baby kept the child carrying her for 9 months and has made the commitment to care for this person for the rest of her life.
Those are the credentials which matter to me and none other. Any woman who can do that is qualified more than a plagiarist in Joe Biden to be the Vice President.

Gov. Palin though has aroused my chivalry even if she does not require it as she can handle what is coming, but this blog by God's grace will now fine tune even more in working to call to attention the bigotry, condescension, racism, hatred and anti Americanism which are the ilk of the Obamanation.

America became a modern nation on a Vice President by the name of Theodore Roosevelt who conserved our parks, reestablished our wildlife, built our military to secure America, instituted Alexander Hamiliton's banking system (note TR did not realize that elitists were going to steal the American economy, but like Hamilton was only building a finance system to fund wars if they broke out as Lincoln had and to fund major national projects like the Panama Canal so taxpayers would not be gouged by too high of taxes.) and created the America we know today.

Roosevelt's experience came from the same place Sarah Palin's experience comes from in the West. The West makes responsible adults of all who breathe there who care for other people.

Sarah Palin is America's Chance.


http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/08/ … hance.html

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin for Vice President

PaSnow wrote:

You conveintly avoided her support of the Bridge to Nowhere. She didn't change anything in Alaska. The only thing this "renegade" Governor changed was her mind. She's a fraud who is all hype, McCain failed to do his research and himself even said his first act as President would be to nominate someone who is most ready to fill in as President should something happen.


Really?? Her?? More qualified than Tim Pawlenty, Charlie Crist, Tom Ridge or Mike Huckabee???  So let me get this straight, she:

Is inexperienced
This state trooper investigation does not look good (There apparently is audio tapes which she recently admitted to)
She said "Yes" she supported earmarked spending and the Bridge to Nowhere (a $300 million dollar bridge in Alaska). She even went so far as to say they should hurry it up while the republicans still have a majority in the senate (this was said in October 2006). THE SENATE rejected the bill, NOT Sarah Palin. She later vaguely said Alaska will look for other transportation measures. {for the record, Ted Stevens, the Republican Senator who supported the bill Palin endorsed is the same politicans who hysterically said "The internet is a series of tubes}. There is no defending this bill. I repeat, there is no defending this bill. It was a laughingstock in National Politics. Also crippling her stand is she is the only one of the four who supported it. How will she defend this stance when Biden rejected it?? As did Obama AND McCain
She said on CNBC "Someone needs to tells me what it is exactly that the VP does every day?"
She resorts to laughing when 2 doofus morning show DJ's call another (Republican) politician a bitch. I suppose that is what McCains referring to when he says she "Took on politicians in her own party" because nobody can now prove any wasteful spending she "rejected". She didn't "Say No" to wasteful spending as she claims, SHE ENDORSED IT. Other people had to reject it for her.
She also brings no states and will bring very few Hilary supporters or independents. She's a nutjob and people want her to possibly run this Nation, select  Supreme Court Justices who could shape the future of this country and lead this nation in war??

McCain's plan for the future is to drill drill drill. That's will solve all the problems in America.

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