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Re: Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy
Anything interesting?
There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
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Re: Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy
polluxlm wrote:Anything interesting?
There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
I will get around to reading this in March, can I ask are the leaks mentioned at all?
Re: Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy
Blackstar wrote:polluxlm wrote:Anything interesting?
There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
I will get around to reading this in March, can I ask are the leaks mentioned at all?
They are, but not really any new information about any of them
- Shacklermyrye
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Re: Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy
Shacklermyrye wrote:Blackstar wrote:There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
I will get around to reading this in March, can I ask are the leaks mentioned at all?
They are, but not really any new information about any of them
Thanks.
Re: Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy
Blackstar wrote:polluxlm wrote:Anything interesting?
There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
Pitman seems to be referring to the 1998-2001 period (when the bulk of the material was written).
The only possibility that comes to mind (aside from Desmond Child type songwriters) is that maybe he was referring to Izzy's songs (the ones from the 90s that Axl asked and got back around 2000). But then why would Pitman avoid mentioning Izzy and be so secretive about it?
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Re: Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy
Shacklermyrye wrote:Blackstar wrote:There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
Pitman seems to be referring to the 1998-2001 period (when the bulk of the material was written).
The only possibility that comes to mind (aside from Desmond Child type songwriters) is that maybe he was referring to Izzy's songs (the ones from the 90s that Axl asked and got back around 2000). But then why would Pitman avoid mentioning Izzy and be so secretive about it?
My money would be on Marti Frederiksen, Glen Ballard and Diane Warren. They wrote for Aerosmith on Nine Lives and Just Push Play which line up time wise with work on CD. Warren wrote that awful I Don't Want to Miss a Thing in 1998. If the Label or somebody was giving them lists of writers names then those would have been on it I think as they had pretty big success writing for 'classic rock' acts in an era that was mostly filled with Nu Metal/ New Punk stuff. In that sense from a labels perspective they would be the logical choice/suggestion. & if it was the song writers reaching out and not the label then GN'R seems the logical choice after working with Aerosmith.
If it was Izzy I think Pitman would say so.
A long shot guess would be Butch Walker who wrote for Rivers Cuomo and Weezer in that era, I only mention it as around 2003 there were rumours Axl was meant to guest on a Weezer song, which people put down to a silly rumour and is largely forgotten now.
