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#991 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 663 weeks ago

Vince Russo, huh?


A bit revisionist history are we? Russo ruined WCW, and whether it was he or Bischoff that hired more busted up egos than McMahon during that era. Punk would've never made it in WCW, because they would've been too busy booking Hogan vs. Kevin Nash vs. Booker T for the WCW Heavyweight Championship. Whatever.

WWE had heat. I could see ECW, back in the mid-90s when it really took off. But the only place Punk would've ever had a spotlighted home, would've been had HE BEEN ONE OF THOSE EGOS running around with Austin/HHH/Rock/Taker, etc.

That was my point. He could've easily come up in that generation of WWE, and at least during the Edge days.

#992 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's True Detective » 663 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

also i don't really see the michael mann fit on this one. aside from maybe the killer action scene in the prev ep.
it rings more like a southern gothic to me.
don't really get those anymore unless they're kinda cartoony (sam raimi/american gothic/horror story).
i suppose the closest there'd be would be the coen bro's & their noir flicks. but the show is just fine the way it is. even if latest ep was a stinker. william friedkin maybe who did killer joe w/mcc recently or yea guys like raimi/american gothic, people closer to that genre than the hyper realism of mann would be more suited imo.


Oh it's got Coen Brothers all over it, and I actually said it was very "No Country For Old Men" to someone the other day about it.

polluxlm wrote:

I'm stunned this show doesn't have Michael Mann's name on it as producer.

That would be too much awesomeness to absorb. That's why they canned the perfect union of him and David Milch, it was about to set the bar too high. lol


That was my first reaction to it. Easily my favorite show since the sorely underrated Luck.


RIP Dennis Farina. You were my hero, playing total badasses, a fucking bad ass on Luck, Albert Lombard on Miami Vice, Mike Torello on Crime Story, the funniest fucking asshole in Midnight Run with DeNiro, and my favorite of all... dragging protestors out and busting hippie skulls at the '68 Democratic National Convention as an old school Italian Chicago cop--in real life. That was my favorite.


What a fucking legend. Man i'll miss you.

#993 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Walking Dead » 663 weeks ago

That little psychopathic girl is the most interesting character on the show right now. Earlier in the season in the fall I called that she was "off and weird", and I personally think she killed/murdered her parents.


Maybe i'm wrong, but there it is.


And I agree, there's FAR TOO MANY characters on the show, and I gotta be honest... most of the old cast i'm kinda over, other than Daryl, the best and most likable character on the show. I know this show is based on the comics, but they are already reaching TV series "reinvention" territory 4 seasons in, despite having the biggest ratings ever. I don't get it. The show is in it's worst state, and the viewership is through the roof.

I seriously think the show needs a complete reinvention before this season wraps in order to save it artistically. They need to blow the whole thing up and kill the cast, with maybe the exception of Daryl and just reboot it elsewhere with a new cast.

I don't find Michonne near as interesting as everyone else does. They've waiting too long to reveal her motivations that I simply don't care anymore, and simply swashing a katana around ain't enough. At least Highlander had substance to it.

#994 Re: The Sunset Strip » Avenged Sevenfold » 663 weeks ago

metallex78 wrote:

Shepard of Fire is Enter Sandman. Starts with drums, then into guitar riff, then whole band kicks in. It even has the fading drums at the end, the same as Enter Sandman! Lol

I like the song, but why did A7x stop making original music and blatantly copying their influences?


Because like Alter Bridge... that's what people do now. To stay alive, originality is dead. Look at GN'R. Chinese had "no singles"... why? Because it wasn't Axl Rose doing post-grunge songs. It was Axl doing what he wanted, especially the throwback GN'R ballads.

The only bands out there still recording new music that still has originality are the Seattle bands that originated the sound that eventually got streamlined, or the occasional old hair band that still record the same kind of music, like Whitesnake.

Most bands either took their ball and went home when people didn't want to hear new music, they became tribute bands to their old stuff, and all of the more modern bands from post-grunge, to nu metal, to industrial, to the current stuff... none of it has enough of a classic appeal to have staying power imo.

#995 Re: The Garden » Smoking cessation » 663 weeks ago

Furbush wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

I fucking love smoking and yet.... don't. I, like the red head, just am NOT habitual. I don't know what to say. I cannot and will not pick up habits. The other day I was with a friend and fucking partying man, old school biblical shit. Jager bombs, gallons of rum n' coke, Bud Light, vikes, cocaine, and suddenly being i'm with "like minds", I smoked a half of pack of Little Cigars (my absolute fave, and stronger than fuck), with full inhale, which alot cannot handle. Fucking loved it, had a great time. And that was a fucking Thursday. HAH!

I smoked a half a pack, as a recreational smoker, loved it, and had no cravings next day. Never have. Do you have to do it for like months and years to get addicted to it? I love the nicotine, but I just don't crave them. I kinda do, but I crave the flavor, not the fix.

Am I weird, or just not advanced enough on tobacco?

Furbush wrote:

You gotta start with higher nicotine, and flavors that you like... i was 2 packs a day. I started with 24mg juice...

and vape away... the nic doesn't absorb into your lungs the same way... for a few weeks, I vaped non stop. I cut down first... til I was at around 5 butts a day, then gave it a go, with proper juice/devices. A year later, I'm between 12mg/18mg, and I love it. I feel a million times better... Nicotine by itself is no more harmful than caffeine. I'm telling ya, I LOVE smoking. LOVE it. when people went outside to smoke a butt, I smoked 2. Ya just gotta commit, and dive into this shit, and it works.


I've always been curious about e-cigs. I like the nicotine, and like the distraction of having something in my mouth (insert joke here). So how does one get into e cigs?


It's a rabbit hole... Best bet? Try http://www.reddit.com/r/Vaping101
http://i.imgur.com/wc76V.png

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL … B4b2u1htTQ

You can keep it simple, or turn it into a full blown hobby/addiction all unto itself.

I've been on both ends. I'm somewhere in the middle.. I have 3 higher end devices, and use rebuildable atomizers and shit. Find what works for you, man. A year later, and I'm glad I made the switch.


Just to try it out, I bought a starter pack of the blu E-cigs. Obviously they're the highest profiled, and really were the first off the line. Plus the black pipe, plus Miami neon blue end is kinda cool.

Tried it out for the first time this morning on the way to school for the nic boost, after an all fucking nighter work-wise (don't even ask, ugh, Law classes) and I gotta say it's one of the most odd/interesting experiences of my life. First off, I hope that the blu's are not representative of all vaping. There's not even close to the amount of tobacco flavor that there is in a cigarette, but especially say a Marlboro Red or my Little Cigars. On first try, I miss that big tobacco flavor. The nicotine is fine, but they're not all that flavorful tbh.

I was using the Classic Tobacco starter kit, although it's not a bad flavor, it's definitely not a regular cigarette. On the way home, I decided to stop into a gas station and see if they had any additional flavor packs. They did, and I picked by one of their Vivid Vanilla packs. As soon as I open these things, you can smell this delicious vanilla smell, almost like that delicious French Vanilla coffee taste that a good Cigar can have. My taste buds immediately perked up.

I take off the Classic Tobacco, and throw on the Vanilla. Now although it still isn't a strong tobacco flavor, these things were FAR MORE enjoyable, and tasty.


In the end though, I can't help but to again say... what's the point? Without the lack of a realistic tobacco flavor, which is why I like smoking, not so much the nicotine. You need something that closely resembles that, plus the interesting flavors. The weird thing, as someone who has smoked from regular fire, as well as the steam from a bong, e-cigs are neither. It tastes and feels like stage smoke, honestly. If you've ever inhaled stage smoke, it's almost identical, which leaves it weird.

I'm not downing it, it's just a first day. BUT, in the end what is the point without a real tobacco flavor? Exactly how I used them. In the morning, or in mixed company with poor sleep, stress, downing sedative drugs or too much booze... these e-cigs are a great way for an electronic, low-risk, easily chargable and renewable, cheaper way to have a completely odorless nicotine fix when you need them without the distraction or bad smell that turns people off.

#996 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » The man who cannot sing... » 663 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:
metallex78 wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Axl picks good collaborators, Slash picks bad ones. If I wanted to tell people in the future what hair metal sounded like I would play them Myles Kennedy.

At least Stapp sounds like a man.

Scott Stapp sounds like he's gargling marbles under water, and is cheesy as fuck.
You don't have to be a fan of Myles to see that... hahaha


When Myles stays out of the nasal register, he shits all over Scott, especially in songwriting and lyrics.

Not disagreeing with that, they're both in a race for the bottom.

Myles is perfectly average in both songwriting and lyrics.

(not directed at poll, but an in-general post)

I would say Scott Stapp and Myles are on the same level lyrically. Scott can be cheesy as fuck lyrically, absolutely. Creed has some of the most sappy-ass Poison-tribute lyrics of all time. But Myles certainly ain't better. I can show you highlights and low-lights, no different than Stapp.

I would say they're both average rock radio type fare.

Myles does not shit all over Stapp. If anything he's derivative of derivative. Alter Bridge/Creed (leaving Stapp out of the conversation) are the most hacky, rip-off artists of rock music of all time. Got to fucking be. Alter Bridge gets NO PASS. It's basically Creed with Myles. Just because Tremonti (as good as he is), brings more of a classic rock appeal to the music, again... it's fucking rip off stuff. Back in the late 90's when Creed hit, even I was like most going, what the fuck? Poor man's Pearl Jam. But Creed did something financially smart as hell. By 1996-98, Pearl Jam themselves were getting slammed in the press and by fans alike for their continuing "decline". Yep that's right folks, the decline of the great Pearl Jam. Why? Because most people missed the band that recorded Ten. Where the fuck was THAT Pearl Jam? Obviously Pearl Jam does what the fuck they want, and god bless 'em for it. But Creed walks in and picks up the slack. Some record exec says, "hey I got a great idea, let's mix Pearl Jam/Alice In Chains melodies with the arena rock presentation of 80's hair like Bon Jovi or Def Leppard".

BOOM -- post-grunge was born, in it's truest since. Not Days of the New or STP, but right there at the birth of Creed. Stapp's contention years later was that "actually something new was started in my opinion", or however he put it, and Tremonti agreed.

I wholeheartedly disagree with them, but in hind-sight I might agree with them more today on how long post-grunge has lasted, and settled into it's rock niche format, that it's "generic radio rock" so much to the point that it's it's own generation's rock music. In hind-sight, Creed which was derivative, and basically just did Pearl Jam's Ten or Alice In Chains' Dirt mixed with New Jersey or Look What The Cat Dragged In, ad nauseum, that now Creed looks like the first band of it's kind in retrospect.

BUT, as soon as I lightened up on them a tad, they go off and do Alter fucking Bridge. NOW Myles, like Scott, gets a pass in my book. Again my fingers pointed DIRECTLY at the band themselves. They jumped off of their own sinking ship, and again founded a completely derivative band! Alter Bridge when they started were again radio ready rock, with a classic rock appeal, something that was now considered some since of "fresh" in the mid-2000s. Myles was just along for the ride apparently, no different than Scott. Now just because Tremonti throws on a solo, people give him a pass on ANOTHER derivative band built because they band has NO originality.

You like Alter Bridge, ding ding for you. But their current "gimmick" and that's what it is, a gimmick, is just another in a long line. The music is good, it really is. But I could make the same argument for Creed to. ALOT of people liked them, WAY FUCKING MORE than AB. My high school chums would be laughing their asses off at me in 2014 defending the legacy of Creed, considering I fucking slammed them daily back in their popularity for liking them.

But in the end, if anyone looks innocent here -- it's Scott Stapp. I'm totally serious. Scott Stapp STAYED Scott Stapp. He never changed. He never ran off and made another derivative band, to continue stealing money from people. He stayed true to exactly who he is. I could not stand the fucker, but I gotta admit, history and his history has kind of vindicated him. I think Scott Stapp is exactly who he is.

Stapp may not be able to hit Myles notes, but i'd argue that fucking Myles can't hit Myles notes. Kinda pitchy dawg.


Key difference between Stapp and Myles, other than Stapp sounding more manly.

Scott Stapp is a rock vocalist/performer, no matter how derivative, true to his 80s/90s-influenced roots. Myles Kennedy is just a session vocalist in a long-line, and when "Creed" and Slash are done with him, they'll throw him away like they did all their other vocalists. Myles will be a nobody, because that's what he is, because he won't have his bands to float him anymore.

Stapp will still be a God amongst Christian Rock, even if he's got nothing left to do or say. At least he can go to his grave saying "I was who I was, and I never fucking changed".

Who's Got My Back now... indeed

#997 Re: Guns N' Roses » sp1at thread » 663 weeks ago

Sky Dog wrote:

Good to see you JR! Unfortunately, Axl isn't going to do shit....firmly convinced of this. He will tour and make some cash to help support the band and their families and his hangers on. It's over as far as I am concerned. Of course, I would love to hear the unreleased Chinese stuff but that seems like it won't happen either. I am just going old school now watching vids from 85-91...holy shit...real deal.


Good to see you too man. Long time. Miss the good 'ol days about 4-5 years ago when this place was hopping, but then again we had... hope. And I agree, I think the guy is done. And honestly, based on the music industry I see today, I can't say as if I blame him. Rock is dead, REAL fuckin' dead, and even all the people that beat off to Alter Bridge and Avenged Sevenfold albums... we've all heard it before. Neither of the two is exactly breaking down walls in terms of popular music. Rock has became a niche genre. How the fuck did that happen?

Somehow in the mix of it all, Eminem found a way to record his best album in years, and basically the Rihanna track is the only thing that got played. Katy Perry, seriously, we have to have me destroy that argument again? It's about pop now, and whatever can sell to the masses to such a degree, that the industry is terrified to take a chance. Guns N' Roses is WAY too fuckin' big of a brand name, to revert GN'R tracks to Soundcloud, and Axl already knows there's basically no money in albums. So hey, go off and find a smaller label like Frontiers or something that will give you artistic freedom, and you can record what you want. Too bad Universal won't let him do that, not now, not ever.

I probably forgive the guy more now, than before. Even if he wanted to record, I think he's screwed. He's older, more tired, wasted his prime, and the industry has changed so much to a point that to make it, even with his mammoth brand name, will require work with people he can't fucking stand to deal with, whether it's him or Team Brazil. It's nasty for all involved. He's stuck one way or another.

The best he could ever hope for is dropping non-album singles, or maybe the occasional EP. It's an entirely different landscape today, and it takes motivation. I think some of his Tweets were promising, not weird! If Axl Rose gets pissed off enough about something--he'll write. I'm telling you. Right now he doesn't feel he has anything to prove, because this generation of music consumers, as well as the business simply are too busy looking in the mirror to care about what's going on beyond it.



Then again maybe he likes chicken wings and porn?


axl 22

#998 Re: Guns N' Roses » sp1at thread » 664 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

I definitely think Axl is a huge fan of Bucket's. They've tried to get him back more times then we probably even know, and the treatment of Ron by the band pretty much says it all. "This guy won't be around for long, so don't get used to him". I just get that overall feeling.


What stuns me is with Ron's medical problems, plus his vocal criticism of the dynamics of business in GN'R, i'm shocked somebody else wasn't called before the 2009-10 tour. Then Ron spoke of, well if Ron's not doing it, then Axl's not doing it, which is kinda stand up, but what's the overall point of it all?

I have full belief that DJ Ashba is there to write with Axl if and when the time comes. The rest of the band already has. Ron? Seems to be on the outside looking in.

Is he waiting for Bucket? I'm sure he'd take Bucket back in a second, at a high cost. I think Robin & Bucket inspire him, and maybe even DJ even though when haven't heard anything from him. Axl paling around with DJ and DJ saying "he's played me this, he's played me that", is definitely a man that has at least kicked the tires on new music with certain people he likes.

I personally am half hard right now thinking of a Guns N' Roses album with Axl vocals/lyrics, DJ radio melodies, Bucket melodic Padmasana solos, with Richard in the background waiting to Slash it up when they need him to.


Pretty bad ass hybrid of GN'R if you ask me.

Yeah, as much as I'd like to see Robin Finck return, and as much as I detest Ashba, I appreciate that the guy is very talented at writing commercial rock hits. So a combination of Ashba writing and Buckethead bringing the crazy shred would probably be the band's best hope for commercial success. And given their shared interest in horror movies, Ashba and Buckethead would probably get on like a house on fire.


I could totally see DJ loving the shit out of working with Bucket, if not the two of them running off and doing their own work together.

That version of the lineup would seriously fucking kill if they could make it cohesive.

They've have all they need, think about it...

Axl brings old rock + new rock leadership with a love of avant-garde and ambient ethos to rock
DJ brings a modern radio sensibility, and simplification to the whole process. The guy has a GREAT ear for what works and what doesn't, I wouldn't mind him producing the fucker.
Bucket is mother fucking Bucket; he can do anything and brings something STILL totally original to the project, plus plays right into Axl & DJ's wheelhouse as artists
Richard has a throwback Slash/Joe Perry quality for when they DO want to do those throwback Guns songs
Tommy brings true, hall of famer definition of punk to the process for when they want to do radio-ready or alternative sounding music
Frank is a "do anything" drummer, and easily the most talented guy they've ever had back there
Dizzy brings an old school keyboardist mentality to the process, that of the Stones and old rock
Chris brings a new school keyboardist mentality for those "horror-rich" projects that Axl, DJ & Bucket will adore


That group right there, literally can cut ANY fucking album they desire. Or a mixture of all rock styles. They've got it all... but only if the fatass puts down the PS4 for five seconds and remembers he's Axl "Goddamn Eisenberg" fuckin' Rose.

#999 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnR in Vegas 2014 » 664 weeks ago

Despite it all, after the break... i'm still curious to see on that first show... and second... and third, what Axl will sound vocally.

#1000 Re: Guns N' Roses » Coupla kids incest mackin on the Ax-Man's ex » 664 weeks ago

And ironically, Beta actually said that exact thing about that whole ordeal years ago. I cant remember where she was asked, but she responded something out of desperation basically, "no you just don't understand. Stephanie is crazy!"

Like you don't know the half of it. Maybe she was having them boys on both titties until they were 17.

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