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#1012 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Tommy Stinson Thread » 775 weeks ago

Axl made his own bed. He promised the label the new album by...1997? Or something in the late 90s. Yet he delivered a decade later, with an ever-changing line-up of musicians, and what's even worse, with ever-changing producers. He didn't give a damn about the guys the label recommended. He had been spending that millions for years and years with no sign of ever completing the album, just broken promises years by years. Even the 'minor' additions took a year, instead of 3 weeks in 2007, after the aborted NA tour.
It's no wonder that Uni didn't spend other millions for the albums after 2004. They were obviously fed up with the Axl camp, and decided not to wait another weeks (or months or years) for Axl's artistic vision's desired booklet. They did ads though, it was only Axl, who sabotated his own release. What a spoiled child. He made his own bed, and now those people need to renegotiate the deal with the label, who only made things worse with the 'you are Axl Rose, you do what you want' bullshit. Not a promising position.

#1013 Re: Guns N' Roses » Richard Fortus Interview with Maximum Ink » 775 weeks ago

faldor wrote:

I'm sorry, but I've heard the, "this band is dead in the water" argument a hundred times over.  I'm just not about to buy it NOW.  You can keep saying it and maybe eventually you'll be right, but until then, this band will continue doing what they've been doing.

If they do tour Europe AGAIN without new music, successfully.  I'm sure you'll come up with another, "it's now or never" theory for them.  I'll set my watch to it. 

If by chance, you are right, I'll be here to take the "I told you so's".

I agree. GN'R with whatever replacement line-up can always fill stadiums in SA, play full arenas in the Far East, headline festivals and play smaller arenas in Europe and play in half empty (half full) arenas in the US. So fianancially the money will be there.

I don't think that after all these years of inactivity and tribute tours any of the band members would bail, just because Axl wouldn't want to do anything in 2012. It's a good job for them: they don't need to do too much, play the usual songs with 3-4 additions every 3 years, that's it. I think Axl's start/stop/start/stop etc. recording process is more of a headache.
These guys earn a lot, and nobody would gurantee them a job with better conditions. Face it, they are not rock music's Lionel Messi and Xavi. If they can do something new, something artistically inspiring, the better. But they are quite comfortable with sitting at home, watching dvds and playing with minor side projects. They know it's Axl's band, he calls the shots, and they are fortunate and replecable employees. None of them would quit for artistic reasons. No. Way.

#1014 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SLASH: More Details Of New Solo-Album » 775 weeks ago

SLASH's Bassist TODD KERNS Checks In From The Studio - Dec. 22, 2011 

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe … mID=167566

Legendary guitarist Slash (GUNS N' ROSES, VELVET REVOLVER) recently re-entered Barefoot Recording in Hollywood, California with producer Eric Valentine (QUEENS OF STONE AGE, THE ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS) to resume recording Slash's upcoming solo album for a tentative April 2012 release. Joining Slash in the studio are the members of his touring band: vocalist Myles Kennedy (ALTER BRIDGE), rhythm guitarist Bobby Schneck, bassist Todd Kerns (SIN CITY SINNERS, formerly of AGE OF ELECTRIC), and drummer Brent Fitz (formerly of THEORY OF A DEADMAN).

In a brand new post on his official blog, Kerns writes about the latest recording sessions, "We are somewhere in the area of five songs in. I've lost track.

"We play the songs together live off the floor, capturing guitars, bass and drums all in one pass. If there's any glaring mistakes, they are repaired and we move on to the next.

"The pace has been about one song a day, though we've managed to fall off that pace here and there.

"The riffs are fat and huge and heavy.

"Slash plays solos live off the floor that are epic and as impressive as anything in his catalogue. And that's a formidable one.

"It's been fascinating working with Eric Valentine. Every day I come in and the drums are in a different part of the studio. He's big on different sounds for different songs. The kick drum sizes change, Myles and I change guitars and amps all the time dependent on the track. The only constant is Slash.

"Les Paul and Marshall. All you need is an American guitar and a British amplifier and you can take over the world.

"Slash has a very specific, distinctive sound and it would be a mistake to have him playing a Strat or a Tele. Slash needs to sound like Slash. The funny thing is I have a feeling that even if he did have a completely different set up going, it would still sound very much like him."

In a recent interview, Slash stated about the musicians in his band, "I was really fortunate. When I'd done the [first solo] record, I thought, 'I've gotta tour on this.' And I had to figure how I was gonna actually pull that off. And I set about auditioning musicians in L.A. and I just happened to meet Brent Fitz, who I'd never played before and who is not from Los Angeles; he was one of the guys I auditioned and he was great. And then he introduced me to Todd Kerns, who fit in perfectly. And it turned out to be a great band from the start — definitely worth going in and making a record with."

Valentine previously worked with Slash on the guitarist's self-titled solo album. But "the big difference," according to Slash, will be that Eric is "also gonna be mastering this one" in addition to recording and mixing the CD. "So it's like one-stop shopping, which is pretty cool," the axeman said.

Regarding the musical direction of his new material and how it compares to last year's self-titled effort, Slash said, "This one's definitely a very focused… Very hard. Some of it's very heavy. It's got sort of a more unified sound to it, especially with one vocal all throughout."

#1015 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Libertad vs. Chinese Democracy, Round V » 775 weeks ago

metallex78 wrote:
misterID wrote:

I think Libertad is miles better musically than Contraband

I've heard a few people say that, but I'm just not hearing it.

Contraband is full of great riffing and solos (even if they are short), whereas Libertad sounds really uninspired and bland for the most part, aside from maybe 2-3 songs.

I don't see much difference between those albums in quality, but more in the style. Contraband is an angry, energic modern rock album with a lot of similar songs that makes it  unbearable (for me) to listen it from Suckertrain to LTA. The sound is really muddy and some songs really one-dimensioned - and too much songs sound the same.
However, Libertad is much more colourful. Less energy, but more music and groove, I can listen it through from Let It Roll to Dime. Only 1 or 2 songs are annoying, the rest is mediocre to good.
On the other hand Contraband has great songs (Slither, YGNR, Superhuman, Set Me Free), some other strong ones, but a lot of weak tracks. Slash's riffing is stronger on CB, but he gets more space for solos on Libertad (but his one-takes aren't always that great). Scott is annoying almost everywhere, but he's even worse on Libertad (SBQM anyone?).

So both albums could have been better, if at least Slash's mind were there. I think he didn't really want to work with Scott, but had enough of the singer search.

#1016 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 775 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
Mikkamakka wrote:
Aussie wrote:

Problem with the HOF thing is if Axl really isn't into it and just doing it because it's what the fans want and he knows he'll look the villain if he doesn't show, that in itself could kill any chemistry.

If they get there with no talking before hand Im sure the tension will be easily visible and it will probably result in a flat performance.  People will then use that to say they can never recapture the magic, the new lineup is better etc etc. 

Whilst it's probably true they will never recapture what was there 25 years ago, any reunion performance should only be judged with the motivation behind it in mind.  If Axl is backed into a corner to do the HOF chances are it will show.  Same deal if there was ever a full blown reunion, if it was only to milk the money, they hadn't really sorted out any personal differences etc, no desire for quality new music etc, I'm sure that would result in largely lacklustre performances too.

Good post. I'm almost sure that Slash wouldn't want to perform for the same reason. A one-off 2 song show is just not what a reunion should be. Be it all or nothing. I think nobody, except Steven is interested in a one-off half-assed show that would only hurt the GN'R legacy. I think that getting five (seven) of them on the same stage getting the award is all we can hope for. But it's a realistic dream.

Who says a one-off would need to be half-assed? Pink Floyd pulled off the most incredible 25 minutes ever with a simple one-off show for charity. Honestly, that's what I would like to see happen with GN'R as well. One final magic moment and then the fire burns out forever. Floyd weren't on good terms at the time of that show, but they chose to bury the hatchet for a few days to make an impact on a charitable cause.

They'd need a few weeks of rehearsing to get that GN'R feel again. Add that Axl doesn't like to rehearse and hates Slash, it'd be very risky to see him first on the ceremony when they go to the stage for the performance.
A 2-song 'reunion show' would be risky even with intensive rehearsing. Axl can have a bad day, Steven can overdose himself in the excitment, Izzy can drive his truck 2 states away, Slash can be nervous and fuck up some notes... Too much risk with what income? They wouldn't gain much, except another 15 minutes of fame, that would be there even with a single reunion photo.

#1017 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Libertad vs. Chinese Democracy, Round V » 776 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

And to mikka, since the For a Brother Vs IRS thread was closed out before I could respond... It's not about being biased, whatever that means. I've been pretty fair to VR. But riffs really don't make a song to me. They are WAYYYYYY more important to you an some others like D. But the fact that IRS beat FAB shows I can't be that biased wink

The biased comment was reflecting you saying that everything on CD blows Libertad away. Although, as I stated, I think CD is the better album, but it's a song vs song survivor, and it'd be early to declare winners before the fight. I think saying that everything on CD is better than anything on Libertad screams for bias. Cause there is some horrible stuff on CD, and some great on Libertad.

I've just listened IRS, and it's worse than I remembered. Axl is amazing, BH's solo is amazing, that vicious chorus riff is amazing, but the rest is so bad, that no wonder I cant listen that song. Robin's guitar is out of tune, and his playing makes it even less bearable. That repeated slow intro part sounds like a 5-year old wrote it, pretty childish. That song could have been a damned great song, but got ruined. Still sounds like a demo to me.

#1018 Re: Guns N' Roses » Richard Fortus Interview with Maximum Ink » 776 weeks ago

Aussie wrote:

MI: What projects are you currently working on?
RF: I’m going to start scoring another Surf Movie for Michael Halsband when I get home at the beginning of the year. Also, we are going to be finishing up the next Gn’R record.

I have a feeling we might actually see this record in the not too distant future.

My concern is that why he mentions the new GN'R record last. This doesn't make sense, except it's scheduled to late 2012 and he thinks in a timeline. Call me pessimist, but it reminds me of those old interviews where Richard and Tommy felt the need to mention that 'and we're working on the new GN'R album, too', just to encourage fans.
I'd be happier if you were right though.

#1019 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 776 weeks ago

Aussie wrote:

Problem with the HOF thing is if Axl really isn't into it and just doing it because it's what the fans want and he knows he'll look the villain if he doesn't show, that in itself could kill any chemistry.

If they get there with no talking before hand Im sure the tension will be easily visible and it will probably result in a flat performance.  People will then use that to say they can never recapture the magic, the new lineup is better etc etc. 

Whilst it's probably true they will never recapture what was there 25 years ago, any reunion performance should only be judged with the motivation behind it in mind.  If Axl is backed into a corner to do the HOF chances are it will show.  Same deal if there was ever a full blown reunion, if it was only to milk the money, they hadn't really sorted out any personal differences etc, no desire for quality new music etc, I'm sure that would result in largely lacklustre performances too.

Good post. I'm almost sure that Slash wouldn't want to perform for the same reason. A one-off 2 song show is just not what a reunion should be. Be it all or nothing. I think nobody, except Steven is interested in a one-off half-assed show that would only hurt the GN'R legacy. I think that getting five (seven) of them on the same stage getting the award is all we can hope for. But it's a realistic dream.

#1020 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » DUFF says he 'Was Reluctant At First' To Open For GN'R » 776 weeks ago

I think they both (all) did GN'R worthy songs, and had GN'R worthy ideas that weren't explored enough (or went in a wrong way). I could list a ton of Slash song, a lot from CD, and also a lot from Duff N' Izzy, which could have been GN'R classic or at least a strong GN'R track with the others.
As long as GN'R functioned as a band, or at least it had Axl to be Slash's supervivior and Slash to be Axl's, the shittiest ideas got nixed, and the musical perversions got limited (Axl with the synth stuff, Slash with the Aerosmith rock and roll stuff etc.). They had each other to complement them, be it adding more, or taking away unneeded things.
Now they're all captains (except VR, but that wasn't a good collaboration), and nobody's there to tell them that something's not good enough. This is why their solo stuff isn't GN'R - Slash said it right in 1995: Izzy did his part of GN'R, and so did Duff and Slash on their solo albums. If we shaked together their stuff, it would be Guns N' Roses, believe me.


(On the other hand, even as a classic band fan, I think some of their work is mystified. I personally think that as overproduced as it is, Street of Dreams is better than Yesterdays, and although nobody knows, Saint Is A Sinner is better than Don't Cry. I don't wanna start a comparasion war, just sayin' that even the old albums had songs that can be topped. Not in GN'R style, cause you can't get it without all the guys, but in quality.)

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