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#1051 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 501 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

just an idiot in a James Brown wig....

Garbage in...garbage out.

#1052 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 501 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

Here's a bitter truth all of you single payer people need to understand: Insurance companies even with their "profits" can do insurance at a lower cost than a non-profit gov't agency could.  .

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#1053 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

I still don't really get the hype over the Nunez statement.  Being 'caught up in incidental surveillance' while doesn't imply guilt, I don't think that means they're definitely innocent either. It could mean the FBI was wiretapping Russians and suddenly a member of the Trump team calls in. A stretch, but you get what I'm saying in laymens terms.
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I think it may cause trouble for Nunes more than anything.

#1055 Re: The Garden » The 24 hottest things in tech in 1997 » 502 weeks ago

I agree. We see it everywhere. I've sat next to tables where the entire family was on their phones. Parents, and all kids. Pathetic.

One thing I also noticed is how much of an easy target females make themselves now. If I were a bad guy I'd be in hog heaven. I see young women every day, walking slowly through a parking lot, parking garage etc staring at their phone and completely oblivious to their surroundings. I was in LA a few weeks ago, jammed packed traffic and noticed the guy on my left was staring down at his phone almost constantly. SMFH.

I find this incredible, but I read a poll where people actually check their phones during sex. ?????????

#1056 Re: The Garden » The 24 hottest things in tech in 1997 » 502 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

This crazy era we live in where everyone is like the BORG on their cellphones.....

Everywhere they go...I kind of look down on those peeps to be honest. Put the fucking phones down and live.

#1057 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

I am at the point to say fuck you to the insurance companies and just do single payer to cover anyone and that is paid from taxes and for the middle class and wealthy they can have their own private system.

Insurance and hospitals have been FVCKING My the patients for so many decades they refuse to give up on any of that cash because they need it to keep the lights on and keep folks employed etc.

The problem would then become that the "free" healthcare would suck while the private insurance would be good and people would still bitch.

I would agree with you. No third party should profit from our most basic need imo. I think the biggest mistake Obama made with ACA was dropping the public option from the bill. It would have been competitive with the private market, helped keep pricing down, and simply been another option, Medicare for all. The public/private model exists in many countries around the world and does just fine. All the boogieman talk about socialism was ridiculous IMO. We already have a private/public hybrid here in America. Opening it up a little more wasn't going to make the sky fall.

I still think the best I've seen about this was on Frontline. It explored the healthcare systems around the world along with their pros/cons.


#1058 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago

The right wing anger at the inability to strip healthcare away from 24 million Americans...I could only make it half way through. I get the point. I think we can expect more of this as we go along.

#1059 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago

Boehner is somewhere laughing...

#1060 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 502 weeks ago

Looks like Flynn may have flipped and is cutting a deal.

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