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#11081 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 908 weeks ago
I don't know what to tell you, Axlin. I was 8 years old when I got into GNR - When AFD came out. I liked them from the moment I saw Jungle the first time. I went through the UYI and TSI? (which I like btw) but it didn't break my heart Slash wasn't in the band anymore. I never saw Slash as a Jimmy Page type figure. And I never put GNR on the same level as Zeppelin or The Stones, either. I really followed GNR for Axl. Slash was cool, but wasn't the main reason I liked the band. That band changed, to me anyway, the moment Izzy wasn't in the band. So, I was pretty accepting of GNR as the Axl Rose show. And there was a lot I didn't like about UYI and I wasn't real hyped about a future, imo, "throw back" classic rock type album. Plus, my tastes have always been geared towards Alternative Rock, that might have something to do with it, too. Again, it's a matter of what appeals to you. I'm not slamming anyone who sees things totally different than I do, and prefers it the other way around.
It just comes down to me prefering Robin, Bucket, Tommy and Brain over an album with the old guys. The music I thought I'd get from them is what I got. That's why I still follow this band and I prefer all the "new-line up" recordings over a lost "old-line up" album (I'd still be interested in hearing it though, and I'm not saying its meaningless)... The new music touches me more as a whole than 'a some of its parts', like UYI. I love the feel and sound of the new band. That doesn't change my feelings for AFD, which I still love. But I know I would have never got another AFD from the old-line up. The direction they were heading was something I wasn't interested in. It might not be totally fair, but going by VR and SSP I'm pretty sure I was right.
#11082 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 908 weeks ago
That just means the band never really meant something to you, which is ok. To some people, the band and the music played a huge role in our lives. You can't discount that because you weren't emotionally involved. Others were. Some still are. There's nothing wrong with that. I understand the people on the other side of the spectrum from me. I don't always agree with them or get what they are saying, but I can relate to being passionate about the music that means something to them. I respect it even when I don't get it (like the Robin love for example).
The band does mean something to us, to an extent. The original line up didn't leave a huge hole for me. I loved AFD and UYI, but I really wasn't devastated when the original line up dissolved.... And to be honest, when I heard Axl had put together a new band, and who those members were, I was more excited about GNR than I ever had been. And Robin was a big part of that. But that excitement pretty much fizzled from what it was. I'm still interested, but the potential that was there will never be lived up to. Which is sadder to me than anything involving GNR.
I wouldn't say the band means nothing to us, it obviously does. We just have a different attachment to the band and our outlooks are VASTLY different. I don't really get the anger. And I've given up responding to instigating digs at the new line up and Robin because I know where it's coming from. And I do respect how people feel about it and I bite my tongue a lot because of it. But for the most part I think the members on this board, despite all the shit that goes back and forth, are pretty respectful and tolerant of each others views. Even though it might have taken a while. 
#11083 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumble playing with Lita Ford » 908 weeks ago
I remember Black being played on the radio, I don't know if it was offically released, but my radio station played that thing all the time. But PJ's had a lot of hits with their ballads: Daughter, Last Kiss, Better Man, YL, Elderly Woman, WishList, I Am Mine.... Nirvana had a hit with All Apologies... And Man, I still say Switch Open is as ballady as you can get.
Smashing Pumpkins, who I don't consider grunge, even though some do, made themselves huge with ballads, starting with "Today" right at the sweaty peak of Grunge.
#11084 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumble playing with Lita Ford » 908 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:Then Alice In Chains does the Sap EP, and shows that grunge bands can even do BALLADS better than those bands. I remember there being an argument, that grunge bands couldn't do softer or more reflective songs. Uh - WRONG.
Actually, other than SAP, Temple of the Dog, and to an extent Pearl Jam, grunge never went the ballad route, which was a surprise. They probably believed a backlash would occur, and rightfully so.
Put Call Me A Dog on Badmotorfinger and All Night Thing on Superunknown, and it completely alters the perception of the band. The slower tempo tracks worked better and were more presentable as a Temple one off, and as far as SAP goes, thats an AIC album in name only. It was basically another collab with various musicians from the scene, most notably Cornell.
I gotta disagree with you here. Pearl Jam, for one, did do ballads. The song Black off the Ten album was a big hit for them and is still played on radio today. PJ had quite a few ballads. I even consider AIC's Down In A Hole a ballad and one of the best I've ever heard. Look at Mad Season, too. Layne was fantastic at ballads. River Of Deceit still gives me a chill.
I would count a few songs off Down On The Upside as ballads... I mean, c'mon, Switch Open? And it actually showed what a great ballad writer Cornell is.
I can hear the grunge Ballad influence all over Sorry.
#11085 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 908 weeks ago
GNRevolution has officially jumped the shark....
This thread has... About 2 pages ago.
#11086 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumble playing with Lita Ford » 908 weeks ago
I don't know, maybe it's taste, but for me the APC albums are made up of songs that don't really flow. A lot of the songs are bland and repetative. Nothing sticks out as great. They have some good songs, but their albums never really hold together. Not like a Tool album. Same thing with Billy's Ashes Divide.... I will say the second album was much better, even if Paz wasn't on bass.
Josh's drumming is fantastic, though.
#11087 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Possibility of a Guns N' Roses '09 Summer tour » 908 weeks ago
Man, he's acting like GNR fans over react at the slightest thing or something.
#11088 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Possibility of a Guns N' Roses '09 Summer tour » 908 weeks ago
I wish they would 
#11089 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy? » 909 weeks ago
Commercials are the new MTV, unfortunately. That's the best way to get your music out there in front of people. MTV sure doesn't give a fuck about music videos or music period anymore 
#11090 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 909 weeks ago
I don't buy the "curiosity factor." Anyone with CD curiosity could have streamed it on myspace or heard the leaks. I just don't see the casual music buying public being very curious about GNR. If they were, there were outlets where they could hear it and wouldn't have to spend a dime.
