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#11431 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 936 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Buckethead coming back is the ony thing that can save Axl's vision of GNR....
But anyway you look at it, even if CD is disappointing sells wise, its still going to sell a lot. That means there will be other releases, they will make money, but they will steadily decline in interest and in sells. As i said, only Buckethead can save this sinking ship.
BH coming back isn't going to save it. He's on the album and it isn't helping. I get that some people love him, but the truth is Axl + Slash = GnR to the general public and no other guitar player is going to be able to fill that role. It may not be fair, but it is what it is.
The kids today really don't share your guys hard on for Slash and Axl re-teaming. And the world really isn't holding its breath for a reunion the way you guys might think. Bucket was growing a GNR fanbase of his own. Axl only needs Slash for a nostalgia trip. Not to be successful. The truth is Axl found lightning in a bottle twice and he blew it.
#11432 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 936 weeks ago
having a record open at #2, which its expected to do, and selling 300,000 copies its first week is still GOOD. Probably not what people had hoped for, but what they expected. I'm not basing this on what I hear on the radio, or at bars or what my friends think. Those aren't horrible numbers. And if it weren't for Kanye West the album would be number #1. Will people say its a flop? Yeah, probably, but based on the figures it's doing pretty well, especially for a record nowadays. People who base their opinions in reality, knowing it was never going to set the world on fire, will see it as such. Its actually doing much better than I thought it would.
GNR, even with the original line up, will never be as huge as they once were. There aren't many "big" named bands who can do it now. And with the silly ass tours they've done before the album they've shown that they can make a living off touring. I don't see that as a problem.
#11433 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 936 weeks ago
Buckethead coming back is the ony thing that can save Axl's vision of GNR....
But anyway you look at it, even if CD is disappointing sells wise, its still going to sell a lot. That means there will be other releases, they will make money, but they will steadily decline in interest and in sells. As i said, only Buckethead can save this sinking ship.
#11434 Re: Guns N' Roses » Thoughts On "Excuses" » 936 weeks ago
It isn't a good enough album. It's that simple. Of course people here and other forums will disagree with me but its time to wake up and face the music. It just isn't that good to be the blockbuster it needed too be. Half the songs should not have been on the album because of the leaks. I mean with all the material those 14 are the best? This was suppose to be the big comeback album and it just falls short.
Exactly. Great post.
This whole Chinese Democracy thing really doesn't make any sense. From the tracklist to the promotion, to the silence. This can't be the plan that's been 14 years in the works. This whole release "feels" likes its all Azoff and Axl just handing it off to him... Not really caring.
The album doesn't even feel like it was trying to be huge. Or trying to be great... Or trying to be perfect. It was just strange.
I don't think its some prelude to a reunion, the only thing I can think is that he is still saving his best stuff... I don't know. 
#11435 Re: Guns N' Roses » Thoughts On "Excuses" » 936 weeks ago
There will be dates announced...
The new band will tour. Axl won't talk. And there will be no reunion.
And stop trying to think logically about this situation.
#11436 Re: Guns N' Roses » Thoughts On "Excuses" » 936 weeks ago
Ha Ha!
Money, money, money, moneeeeee-eeeeee-yyyyyyy
I have to agree with Neemo that a reunion wont happen anytime soon. But along with the other mentioned obsticales (Beta, Del...) I'd throw Perla into that, too.
Now that would be a train wreck no amount of money could fix.
#11437 Re: Guns N' Roses » IF CD doesnt outdo Contraband » 936 weeks ago
It won't matter to us, just everyone else. If Contraband out sells Chinese Democracy it will be mentioned in just about every single article written about GNR in the future; that he couldn't outsell his old bandmates. I don't really care either way, but it would suck for Axl though.
VR sucks in my opinion. The only way I can even listen to them is by condensing the only songs I like into an EP....
Slither
Fall to Pieces
Psycho Killer
SBQM
MessagesThe rest is garbage.
I agree with this. But I'd add "Gas And A Dollar Laugh" "You Got No Right" and "Come On, Come in" on there, too. If only they wrote an album around those songs.
#11438 Re: Guns N' Roses » A great CD review with plenty of praise for Bucket » 936 weeks ago
There's no way he'd put out all his "best" on CD when he's planning multiple albums to release. Plus, there were "hit" songs held back from Appetite and saved for the Illusion albums, so this has been done before. If he has over 30 songs ready (from what we know) with a four album plan in mind, I just don't see him blowing his load on the first album. And there has to be some more killer songs with Buckethead on it. There has to be.
If he was trying to set the world on fire with CD and used all his best songs we wouldn't have got the album we did. There was a reason, I believe, we got Shackler's Revenge and Scraped over The General and Atlas Shrugged.
#11439 Re: Guns N' Roses » A great CD review with plenty of praise for Bucket » 936 weeks ago
My biggest fear about CD from about 2002 was that Axl would end up producing the thing to death... And it happened. My biggest fear now is that Axl will have Ron re-do most to all of Bucket's parts on his other recordings.
There could be some seriously monumental work Buckethead has done (at least over 30 songs) that we could possibly never hear. Because you have to think, with the track listing of CD and the 4 album plan, Axl's holding some of the real-real Big Guns for future albums.
#11440 Re: Guns N' Roses » A great CD review with plenty of praise for Bucket » 936 weeks ago
Damn it, we need some more Bucket era GNR leaks...:drool:
