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#11461 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy official reviews thread » 938 weeks ago
I am holding back judgement until I hear it on an actual CD. I might seem like I'm bitching... Okay, maybe I am... But I do love the songs. I just think the original The Blues and Chinese Democracy were on the verge of being brilliant and there's no telling what a fully mixed version of those songs would have been like in their rawer forms... Songs that I think were genius.
Mainly I'm bummed because of seeing how successful this would have been if released way back in the day when people were begging him to release it. Plus, I'm just not a Bumblefoot guy. I don't like what he did with CD, The Blues, and now I hear he's added guitar to Better... Ughh... Maybe because it just sounds like he's adding something over music that was there before he was, that he isn't really a part of, like an outsider of the band who doesn't really fit, at least to my ears anyway. Maybe it will grow on me. But I still got hope for the future of this band. Especially if a certain person came back to the chicken coop.
And from what I can tell, the reviewers that actually matter are giving the album the thumbs up, from what I see.
#11462 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy official reviews thread » 938 weeks ago
I'm telling you, if this album was released in 2002 the way it was in the demo's it would have been hailed big time. The worst thing that happened was that it went from a single album with a lot of left overs and ideas, to a trilogy, then to four albums. I think things got spread out thin. Too much thinking went into other albums (like saving The General for the last album) than focusing on 'THE' album. Also, something happened with the band in 05-06 when Axl started partying again. I don't know what, but that's when Merck was talking about renting studios and Axl not being able to work because he couldn't find his "muse." Maybe he lost confidence in the music and started adding shit to it.
The sad thing about CD is that great songs are layered with needless effects, guitars, multi vocals... Basically its been produced to death. I can't really argue with a lot of negative reviews mainly because the songs were better before.
It's a strange day, man. Real strange. Mostly because I'm still pumped for future releases. 
#11463 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Myspace Updates » 938 weeks ago
Maybe Robin really is that awesome of an industrial rhythm guy and that bad of a bluesy solo guy, but I don't think so. He plays Better, Street of Dreams, and all his other solos almost perfectly live. I tend to think he intentionally fucks with Slash's solos as a passive aggressive FU to being forced into the role of 'Slash's Replacement' for the 01-02 and 06-07 AFD tours.
He is phenomenal with NIN, even if you don't like NIN you can recognize how much control and power he holds over those songs and that audience. And his mark on Chinese Democracy is strong - he just wasn't into doing note-for-note copies of someone else's work (don't say that's what he does in NIN because NIN live is different from studio, and the players have some freedom). His 'God Given' solo is pretty sweet.
Great post. I don't think he intentionally fucked up solos, he was just playing his style while not trying to copy Slash. His solos on TWAT, Better, exc are fantastic... I think people forget that.
And if anyone thinks that Trent isn't capable of fucking with GNR because he knew Robin was leaving and no one else did, doesn't know Trent very well. He wasn't making those pictures because he's a fan or just for shits and giggles.
#11464 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Myspace Updates » 938 weeks ago
I am wondering though if this Finck and Reznor thing has been in the works for a while... You had Trent showing all the GNR related pictures on his website, while Robin was acting and looking like some stoned out hippie "Rock Star" that he wasn't. It was clear he was just playing a role. Maybe a big 'fuck you' to all the GNR fans who have been giving him shit all these years for being a "goth freak." Personally, I think it was all a big in your face to Axl from Trent knowing that Robin was about to ditch the band and Axl not knowing.... With possibly Robin waiting out a contract and giving some of the assholes in the GNR world who wanted the cliche "traditional rock star" on guitar wat they wanted at the same time as giving his version of a Cartmen, "Neh neh neh neh neh."
#11465 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumored Unreleased CD Era Songs » 938 weeks ago
TWAT was mentioned and recorded long before anyone heard of Thyme. I'm still positive they're two different songs. I don't see anything to the contrary.
#11466 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumored Unreleased CD Era Songs » 938 weeks ago
Yeah, I think Thyme and TWAT are two different songs.
James has me sold on Shacklers Revenge being Zodiac.
#11467 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumored Unreleased CD Era Songs » 938 weeks ago
That's why dave is MIA. I think he might have killed himself when he found out that song 2 was Prostitute.
#11468 Re: Guns N' Roses » Freese leaves NIN - Robin stays(?) » 938 weeks ago
DCK is right. This album was meant to be released in 2002. And Axl fucked it up 
You know, I think Ron is a fantastic person and a great guitarist, but he does nothing for GNR. Actually, if his sound is where the band is headed I'm not really interested. This is really sad. Robin was great and was an awesome complement to Bucket. He was also the backbone to a lot of the songs and is what made them successful, even the ones that are owned by Buckethead. They just meshed.
I'm just not real interested in a Richard/Bumble lead album in the future. It's pretty clear Axl is going to put Ron on most of the future songs and that just kills it for me. We'll never know what could have been.
I really hope he brings in a new guitarist. One like John 5 or Dave Navarro. Someone who can add something NEW and a fresh, cool vibe.
#11469 Re: Guns N' Roses » Couple questions/comments about album » 938 weeks ago
Sure, I think more can be added. Especially if they removed one of the ballads. Like Catcher. Not that I don't like it, but it really wouldn't be missed if it was saved for a later album. It might actually make the album flow better.
#11470 Re: Guns N' Roses » Couple questions/comments about album » 938 weeks ago
There are only 3 songs that hit 6 minutes from what I see.
