Gene thinks up his ideas. He just doesn't put his name on stuff other people think up.

Facts are Gene is one of the most successful musicians of all time, Axl plays for 5k people.

Thats because Kiss have always treated their fans with the utmost respect and have always busted their ass every single show pleasing them whereas Axl does not.

U can talk shit about Kiss all u want but the facts remain the facts.

My theory is that they are trying to fool the general public into thinking it's old GN'R.

It's just smart business. Bait and switch.

war wrote:

i agree - most overrated band ever

and to whoever said that gene is a better business man than axl, i totally disagree - kiss is a circus band who now makes money off of pinball games, toy figurines, and reality shows (i counted that for argument's sake since gene is the subject of the thread and in the show).

all axl sells is his music and it is far better than kiss's

it may be by design but any average fourth grader could have come up with this business plan. simple and cheesy songs, stupid makeup on stage, and a lot of luck is the not-so-secret to their success.

so if selling video games and toys makes you a great business man. there are millions of young people wasting their money on college every day.

U have got to be shitting me?

So if its so easy, how come no other band has done it?  I'll give you GNR music being more deep and complex but Gene has more business savvy in his pinky finger than Axl.

Are u even going to try and argue that? I know we are all fans of Axl but please, thats dumber than people over at HTGTH saying Axl is the modern day Mozart.

Kiss have been a touring sensation for over 30 years. Axl's last few tours were lukewarm and half empty arenas.

Gene has always sold Kiss as a product because he can and because he is smart.

Gene has 10 times the money axl does, I guarantee it.

Axl just met his match.

Simmons would crush Axl on his cheese sandwich snack break.

And Gene is right. Although it is a bit unclassy for him to make the molestation crack.

Axlin08 wrote:

That doesn't mean they can't just tour on the back catalog. Axl's been doing that anyway since 2001. At least this time, you'd actually have the men that were involved in the original production.

I've never understood the anti-reunion logic in, "well Axl doesn't want to record with them". Umm, so fucking what? Axl just released his first album since TSI in '93! He obviously isn't in any kind of hurry with studio material. He also could just release his work as studio work, and most of the ballads on CD, are Illusion ballads. Most likely, you throw some redone guitars, bass & drums on them, and you've got at least two full albums worth of 'old GNR' material.

All they've got to come up with is some rockers. Let Slash & Izzy go, throw a punk song on their by Duff, and bam, you've got a couple new classic-GN'R albums, and Axl didn't have to lift a finger, other than signing on the dotted line. The vocals are already done.

dude in all honesty you dont know what youre talking about

a reunion will never happen until these guys put the bad shit behind them...based on the animosity toward Slash from Beta and Del all ya gotta do is read between the lines

Look back at Slash's frustrations with GnR at teh time he left....from a recording standpoint that shit carried on throughout the entire recording process of CD!! look at them being at odds with gilby and tobias, look at the way both approach writing albums, look at Slash's recent dumping of weiland in VR for not being reliable while on tour....i'm tellin ya that from my standpoint i see absolutely no reason to expect a reunion at this time,....and on top of that Axl jsut released his album which doesnt resesmble orig gnr in any shape or form....

its not so easy as just having slash, duff and izzy record some shit with existing vocals..i cant beleive you even suggested that after knowing the history of axl's recording style