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#1611 Re: The Sunset Strip » KISS Discussion » 725 weeks ago

I'm not a big KISS mark, because I adored their 80's glam phase. I thought their unmasked era was KISS, for me. Their brand of melodic, radio-ready, pompous hair-infused power rock was really the best the medium had to offer if you think about it. Because I think in some ways KISS was self-parodying the scene, consciously. Something they did with the original glam rock in the 70's, and I don't think they get enough credit. At least 80's KISS was tongue-in-cheek, unlike say Motley Crue who actually took their shit seriously.


As for the KISSalog:

I personally think for a casual, the basics are probably in order. Firstly, go grab you a Greatest Hits and see if you dig it. The "Very Best of KISS" was a good set that included most of their big-time 70's hits, with a couple 80's tracks thrown in for good measure, and locking out with the "God Gave Rock N' Roll To You II" fantastic cover.

The catalog itself?

For casuals:

KISS (1974)
-- Their self-titled debut is an absolute must, for anyone. Fans, non-fans, casuals, diehards, in-betweeners -- everyone. An absolute amazing debut, this is another debut album rock classic, no different Queen I or Aerosmith '73. The fact it's not put on more all-time rock lists, nor recognized by the KISS Army as probably their best work is beyond me. Just downright hard rock. The band at their purest imo. I adore it from their catalog, and it should be a first listen.

Alive! (1975)
-- A better compliation of their two-albums in-between of KISS '74 and Destroyer, although Alive! is seen as tame by today's standards, not to mention "Memorex before Memorex" (alot of re-dubbing), it still is a classic in rock history of live albums. Just the sound on the record, and an almost aggressive 'real deal rockers', this set shows for those who weren't there what a live force these guys were at that time and the talent throughout the band.

Destroyer (1976)
-- By this point, this was their fourth album release, but in alot of ways the first true follow-up to their self-titled debut. An absolute legendary rock classic (masterpiece is stretching it), this was released at their prime and features a slew of their memorable classics with a tone that fans so adored that the band has tried to re-duplicate it to this day. Features Detroit Rock City, God of Thunder, Do You Love Me?, Shout It Out Loud, and the immortal Beth... among others.

Asylum (1985)
-- Although this is a HUGE jump in-between albums, most of the songs contained on those albums, and the forgettable solo albums, can be seen on Best of sets. Although the sound of their unmasked period really began on the sometimes underated/often overrated Creatures of the Night (1982), the official unmasking didn't begin until Lick It Up the following year. But for a real 'album listen' that captures the band at the pinnacle of their poppiest 80's sound. Several tracks are immediately catchy, and all of the ballads are pure 80's escapism.



If you like those, at all, then i'd took a little bit into mid-tier depth albums like Rock and Roll All Over, Love Gun, Creatures of the Night, Crazy Crazy Nights, and Hot In The Shade.

If you like any of those... then i'd go for the deep stuff like Hotter Than Hell, Dressed to Kill, Dynasty, Unmasked, Lick It Up, Animalize, Revenge, and the post-reunion stuff (of which i've heard very little).

When I say 'deep', what I mean is album's loaded with fan-oriented tracks that might be a difficult listen for someone looking for instantly memorable hooks and lyrics.


P.S.
Interesting listen is Carnival of Souls, for the diehards-only, as it was a failed attempt by the final album from unmasked KISS to do a 90's-themed, darker, more grunge-ish record.

#1612 Re: The Sunset Strip » Aerosmith Discussion » 725 weeks ago

Thanks D. Glad someone made me not feel like an asshole.

I really wanted to like it, because I like Aerosmith... but it's fucking trash. Literally it's a drink coaster, bar for that throwback power ballad on it.

#1613 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 725 weeks ago

The gun debate is a knee-jerk reaction that happens every time this stuff happens.


A loss of  and violation of your rights always comes shrouded in a bow of "protecting children".


Be very careful how you tread. I didn't see alot of candlelight vigils for all of those children casualties of war in Afghanistan and Iraq that American bombs killed.

I'm just saying, before Obama and the liberals try to turn this horrific massacre into a political agenda momentum moment to push whatever they believe in. Or the Republicans and the bible thumpers cry "violent video games and lack of God in schools" as the reason.

As soon as I hear either of those arguments, my first reaction is "you don't know what the hell you're talking about".

#1614 Re: The Sunset Strip » Greatest Hits: To Best of, or not to Best of ? » 725 weeks ago

Oh I completely agree.


But come on dude, if you're heading out the door, and you're gonna be on the road for an hour and you want some Cash, are you really gonna grab albums or are you gonna grab a hits set?

We all make our own mix tapes, we get that, but at the same time sometimes the band's themselves do it so friggin' good (CCR) that you just grab the hits set, rather than the rest.

Pearl Jam for example...

If I want an album experience -- I almost always grab Ten.

But if I want a Pearl Jam experience -- I grab Rearviewmirror. I don't cherry pick like Vitalogy one day and No Code the next.

#1615 Re: The Sunset Strip » Greatest Hits: To Best of, or not to Best of ? » 725 weeks ago

Sympathy For The Devil I always liked and just ripped off the internet. I always assumed it'd be released on a nice best-of set one day as a bonus... I just never thought it'd be that shitacular 2004 release.


Motley Crue and Poison are good examples of best-of bands. I have the Crue's "Red White & Crue" set, and it's friggin' awesome. You really get all you need. There's some rarities on the front-end of Disc 1, love that version of "Too Fast For Love", then you literally get an absolutely stellar Disc 1 with not a single skippable track.

Disc 2 covers the 90's, and you get the deep cuts for when they weren't as popular. It's not as good as Disc 1 (the Corabi stuff is), but it's pretty doggone complete, not to mention I always dug that "If I Die Tomorrow" single, and that's on there too. Pretty complete.

Poison is another one. I have "The Very Best of Poison", and I think there's like 20 tracks on it, and from top-to-bottom it's a stellar listen. My only complaint was there was a couple of ballads missing, and ultimately I ended up buying the "Best of Ballads and Blues" set to try to compensate it.


Johnny Cash is another one. Here's an artist that was around for eons, so you just want to "get to the nuts n' bolts", and i've got that "Legend of Johnny Cash" set. Thing is fantastic and not only covers Cash's legendary hit singles, but also includes several tracks from his Rick Rubin days, including his Rusty Cage & Hurt covers.

#1616 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 725 weeks ago

Yeah that's why I only offered a very brief statement on the whole deal.


The media is a fucking whore that will report literally anything today because they're so damn scared the internet is gonna beat them to get you to give them ratings.


People need to settle down and let this thing soak in (Stacey) and wait for the actual facts to come out. Look at the gun thing, first it was an assault rifle, than it was handguns, now it's a rifle, next it'll be a crossbow... let the media pull each others dicks and the real people just mourn.

#1617 Re: The Sunset Strip » McCartney to Front Nirvana Reunion TONIGHT- NEW SONG » 725 weeks ago

I double-checked mine... it definitely says "N".

N/A just sounds weird. SOMEBODY composed it. Odd it just says N/A.

#1618 Re: The Sunset Strip » Greatest Hits: To Best of, or not to Best of ? » 725 weeks ago

jorge76 wrote:

To me if you're a die hard of a band, and there isn't much or any new material on it, you shouldn't bother. 

Knowing how much you like the new Soundgarden album I'm going to guess that even if Telephantasm is great all it's going to do is whet your appetite more and you'll want to pick up the actual albums to get more tracks, then you'll just end up with multiple copies of the same songs.

Most of the greatest hits albums I have are from bands I don't plan on ever picking up many (or any) more albums from.  I'm glad they exist because of that, but to me they're not for a band you love, they're for bands you kind of like, or want to check out.


You're exactly right, bwhahahaha.


Telephantasm was so fucking well done, all it's made me want to do and go re-buy the albums on CD. Badmotorfinger and Down On The Upside are only $5 bucks on Amazon, so i'm gonna hit that at least. The other day I listened to Telephantasm like 4 times in one day I dug it so much that I tried to put the tapes in a tape deck... it was all fucked up. They're too old.

But you're right in a way. There's no way I could put together a GN'R Best of without using two whole discs. Alice In Chains is another. I could do two whole discs just on Layne, and that's only three LP's and two EP's. Queen would be impossible. I put together a best-of awhile back, and it was literally 5 discs long. Same with the Stones. 5 discs. Some bands are just too hard.

#1619 Re: The Sunset Strip » Greatest Hits: To Best of, or not to Best of ? » 725 weeks ago

Me Wise Magic wrote:

The 2004 Best Of was unorganized and the new songs with Sammy weren't gripping and felt half assed.

The problem with the Best of Both Worlds was that Disc 1 should've been Dave, and Disc 2 should've been Sammy. The going back and forth felt jarring, because the tone of those versions were just NOT the same.

The Sammy songs were obviously uninspired because they basically all hated each other and Eddie didn't want to even do it, but apparently needed money. There was one Sammy song that was pretty strong on there, but it was only one. The rest were literally trash.

But for someone like me, who just CAN-NOT get into VH album-to-album, but actually enjoy the band, but Roth and Van Hagar, it was a nice collection for me to get all of the basics that I wanted.

But i'll agree that songs like Drop Dead Legs, and there was another that escapes me on 5150 that was missing and it was noticeable, especially when the late album live tracks of Sammy performing Dave songs was completely unnecessary.

But like I said, for a non-fan like myself... it truely gave me 'the best of both worlds'. That's all I was looking for. Plus the album art was cool.

#1620 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 725 weeks ago

DCK wrote:

Did anyone ever slaughter school kids with a Machete?

Nope.

Is it just as easy?

Nope.

A guy just tried in China, and he didn't make a single kill.


Sure it is.

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