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#16481 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumble Gratitude Thread » 938 weeks ago
I love this guy. He's been a great ambassador to GN'R and it's fans.
I hope the guy stays forever. Truely.
#16482 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R/CD Promotion Materials » 938 weeks ago
Olorin wrote:Is that top one the alternative cover?
Yeh I think so, has a parental guidance sticker on it so gotta be. Whether it includes a second disc (as rumored) I guess we'll have to wait and see
Rumored where?
#16483 Re: Guns N' Roses » BestBuy.com is now shipping CD » 938 weeks ago
I highly doubt they'd keep track of something like that. They probably shipped, in order to coincide with the 22nd or 24th, basically "around" the release date.
#16484 Re: Guns N' Roses » BestBuy.com is now shipping CD » 938 weeks ago
God I hate when that happens dude. I've ordered other stuff in the past in pre-orders, see friends getting their's shipped AND RECEIVED, and I don't even have a shipping confirmation.
It's one of the great pissers of life.
#16485 Re: Guns N' Roses » BestBuy.com is now shipping CD » 938 weeks ago
Axl told Best Buy not to send CD to those he didn't like.
What a contract.
#16486 Re: Guns N' Roses » K-Rock to play Chinese Democracy in it's Entirety without Interruption » 938 weeks ago
...with The General playing - hopefully.
#16487 Re: Guns N' Roses » When will it leak? *It Leaked* » 938 weeks ago
Actually poll, the only people that about the demos are internet nerds.
The vast majority of the world, this will be their first exposure to the music. They'll hear one of the demos, we heard for a few years over and over, and they'll sit back and go - WTF?
#16488 Re: Guns N' Roses » With the release of CD lets just see all the bridges Axl has burned. » 938 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:VR also played to half-empty arenas most of the time.
Do the math.
Axl + Slash = Stadium sell outs
Both of them will only find 50% success without each other. I don't think it's got anything to do with fans. They'll find new ones, just like Metallica did after Napster.
I'm pretty sure VR's first tour sold out but could be wrong. But see you blame GNR's tour problems on Slash. Axl is the one that no showed many gigs including Philly and Vancouver and left gigs after a couple songs like in Montreal, St-Louis etc. VR's problems stemmed from the fact that they were trying to have people believe they were something they were not. A complete GNR tour with Bucket in 2002 and Axl actually showing up and completing his sets would've sold out I'm pretty sure. Maybe Sic can help, but the few concerts they did in 02 were they sell outs? Let's face it a band with the stature of GNR usually has a very loyal cult following. And those bands usually sell out on tour. Think about Pearl Jam, Tool, Dave Matthews Band and many more. They may not sell the most records anymore but they have sell out tours. Why? Cause they treat their fans like gold. I'm not saying Axl has to give interviews left and right. I can't remember the last time I saw Vedder do an interview. But Axl should use Ron for that. Have your concerts available on cd like PJ. Just be fan friendly. Axl can still be a recluse while doing that. If he don't know how alls he has to do is call Vedder.
I'm a huge new band fan and Bucket fan, and I can say with complete honesty that new GN'R was ALWAYS destined for modest success, and Axl knows that. He's not stupid.
On their best day, with full success and popularity, new GN'R were destined to only have maybe 2/3 of the popularity of the old band for a variety of reasons. 1) It ain't 1992 anymore, 2) Slash ain't there, 3) Axl is now 40+, not the young rebel anymore, 4) Every band suffers from the "been there, done that" syndrome.
If GN'R were to have reunited in 2002, and toured the world, I don't think it would've been as big as it would be now. 2002, those bands were not necessarily doing anything. Why? Because... there wasn't much interest. Even Metallica saw down time after Reload, not due to Napster, but just due to the logistics of the business at the time.
New GN'R were never poised to rule the world. Axl was never going to save the day. It was as much of a myth, as the man himself. It was a pipe dream.
VR might've sold out on curiosity, but VR had a MASSIVE media push, almost to the point of overexposure. Hell, when they originally started off, headlines were actually reading "Bandmates Slash, Duff McKagen & Matt Sorum to reform GUNS N' ROSES sans Axl Rose". That was on E! Network. A big news source. Of course, it was VR.
The Slash-biased media was alive and well, talking out of their ass as always. There was a buzz, based solely on misinformation. VR got concert tix sold, a multi-platinum... and what became of their attendence later? Libertad? That buzz that got them off the ground was gone, and their music was so lousy, no one was going to stick around for the encore. Libertad sold what it sold solely on the hardcores.
If GN'R had Slash. Say he had never left in '96. Stayed with the band. GN'R would've still faced a decline period, for sure... but I don't think GN'R-the band would've put up with 99.99999999999999999999% of the obsticles they've faced and dealt with, because it's a Slash-less GN'R. Why do you think Axl's always been so hardcore, about not having that
guy back in GN'R? Because it's a metaphoric white flag. He knows this. His ego (and I don't blame him) has to have Slash come back with his tail between his legs.
Even Pittman alluded to it in a recent interview, with the GN'R sound. Axl could very well revisit AFD, of the classic GN'R, if you will. He chooses to do something different. Which is cool, and he knows what comes with that. If Axl truely thinks he can reinvent GN'R with the new band, but on the same status as the old, he's as crazy as everyone thinks he is. I don't think he's that crazy. I think the man is happy with the fans he's got. 5,000-10,000 a show. A cozy audience. At this point he's went all Izzy on us, and more than that might scare the dude away. He's gotta have a shrink to go out and perform in front of THAT MANY. He'd have to have a psychiatric team of doctors for a world stadium tour with a reunion.
GNR's status, does have SOME to do with Axl's poor decision making, but a small minority. The reality is - some care, others don't give a fuck. And the exact same applies to Slash. Slash was a Baz-level has been, before VR. He was done. They used the supergroup gimmick to get VR off the ground, and leeched on the GN'R name. If VR's lead singer was Eric Dover, do you truely believe it would've had the same success? Or Izzy & Duff sharing frontman duties? Hell no.
The saga of Axl Rose and Chinese Democracy (although not told yet), will be the exact same imo. CD is amazing - to a diehard. To a casual - it's a good album. But past the initial multi-platinum sales, interest will die (if it's not already dead with Axl's false starts), and he'll be back to square one, just like Slash. Tour to 50% of a fan base (Slashites). Axlites doing the other 50% with new GN'R. Or do you combine forces to bring back the beast?
In the words of Gen. Patton - "you'll know what to do" 
#16489 Re: Guns N' Roses » When will it leak? *It Leaked* » 938 weeks ago
That's what i'm doing too Tyler. I want to wait and review, after i've actually heard the finished product on CD.
#16490 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy official reviews thread » 938 weeks ago
This I Love
An ode to his ex-wife, who won't shut the fuck up for 3 fuckin' seconds, so he can tell her the world is coming to an end, and save the kids.

