zombux wrote:

otto wrote:

There is Beltrami and other instrumentations prior to October 2002. His tenure with GNR ended by October 2002.

care to elaborate a bit more on that? I can't do the research on my own at the moment.
it would help me improve the sheet of sessions
thanks!

Sure.
It was posted on Beltrami's official site by October 2002 that he had worked on "several GNR songs" and then some titles. That was only the post date but not when it actually occurred.
Also, both Beltrami and Paul Buckmaster composed several parts (not just orchestration) for GNR and some are guitar parts, intros, musical pieces and so on. Their involvement started in or around 2000 (I'd believe Buckmaster's was earlier than that, as The Blues, TWAT and so on already contain his parts on '99 versions).
Thyme is/was not a song and just a piece written by Beltrami. Think of it like "The General" intro - playback was presented several times on tour -  as it was an instrumental piece that got used in a song. Thyme was the name of a piece.

otto wrote:

Axl S wrote:

Perhaps is literally on a disc called Rough Mixes 1, PRL on a disc Rough Mixes 2 and Thyme on Mixes 4... they are all from the same period.

Thyme is not even a song and just the name of the instrumental arrangement made by Beltrami.
"Same period" is an interesting concept, tho.

I'm not sure you're correct on this. Beltrami only made the instrumentals for a few songs (including Thyme) in October 2002. these tracks are clearly much older than that.

otto wrote:

Dadud wrote:

But, perhaps is listed as its own title elsewhere on the rough mix CDs so it isnt.

CD's are not from the same period, they were just acquired together but to each its own.

Perhaps is literally on a disc called Rough Mixes 1, PRL on a disc Rough Mixes 2 and Thyme on Mixes 4... they are all from the same period.

And what on Earth does PRL mean. Please respect...life? Peace, respect, love? People really low? Practice, rough, love.

It was a mess, who really knows what happened or why.

I like the title track as much as the next guy who liked grunge and German pop metal but it is an average track on it's best day.

It makes for a phenomenally bad comeback and reintroduction.

Here's your perfect lead-in:

The place goes dark.

Radio feedback screeches over the speaker system.

Soft white noise.

More feedback.

Somethings coming in...

Archival clips flood the screens.

"Welcome to the Jung--- "

More feedback as the dial shifts.

"Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose has been missing..."

"---Youuuuu could beeeee mi iineeeee"

"... The Guns N' Roses frontman..."

"Sweet child solo....."

".... Missing for 10 years..."

The lights in the place start to search the place in a giant spotlight pattern.

"Where is Axl Rose?"

"WHERE IS AXL ROSE?"

"WHAT HAPPENED TO GUNS N ROSES?"

A frenzied wave of tones fill the arenas as the spotlight stops on center stage...

A shadowy figure approaches the microphone slowly.

He surveys the arena.

Pause.

NO ONE EVER TOLD ME WHEN

I WAS ALONE

THEY JUST THOUGHT

I'D KNOW BETTER

BETTER

The lights kick on right on the main riff... pyro cannons into the air...

Axl Rose returns, lean, cut, angry, dressed in tight black jeans, black gloves, a leather jacket, and vintage aviators.