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#17072 Re: Guns N' Roses » CD and WTTJ comparison » 942 weeks ago

Jungle is far superior than CD, but I do think Jungle, Civil War & CD are ALL great album openers. Really strong starts to those albums.


Not so much on Reckless Life & Right Next Door To Hell. Average-to-weak songs to begin with, and using them to open an album is kind of a broke-legged start in a way.

Move To The City would've been a better opener for Lies, and Perfect Crime a better opener for Illusion I.

#17073 Re: Guns N' Roses » How does the new material rank against the old? » 942 weeks ago

AFD was the first GN'R record (full) that I listened to.

And I didn't attach myself to it all that much. I probably skipped My Michelle & Think About You for a year. But listened to You're Crazy [electric] & Anything Goes.

Now I feel that latter two aren't near as strong, and what in the fuck I was missing with the other two, which are great.

I love all of this GN'R material from beginning to present, but I think war is totally right. Had the coin been flipped, I think alot (not all) would change their tune.

If AFD subtracted You're Crazy [electric] & Anything Goes, and replaced it with Move To The City, Patience, Used To Love Her & You're Crazy [acoustic], it'd = a masterpiece. Just like if the Illusions merged, it'd = a masterpiece.

I don't know yet how CD will shape up. I sure hope I come away from it with that impression. Riad I think is average, but the rest of the songs are EXTREMELY strong imo, and we haven't even heard Scraped, Sorry or This I Love, and I get the feeling Sorry & This I Love will be in "Coma"/"Estranged" territory, and if that's the case, I just might consider CD a masterpiece on it's own.

#17074 Re: Guns N' Roses » RS Rock List: Guns N' Roses » 942 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

i originally put www.gnrevolution.com in my post but they deleted it....i guess they dont like that huh? 16

They deleted my post with - Axlin08. No idea why, unless it's some sort of political advert, lmao.

I reposted under a fake name.

#17075 Re: Guns N' Roses » How does the new material rank against the old? » 942 weeks ago

Neemo, you make valid points. But I think if someone ALREADY isn't a fan of the new band, most likely won't be going into BBY to buy the album anyways.

If OLD GN'R is a soundtrack to your life, that's cool, I think alot of us can relate, I can. But some of the new songs are just as much a soundtrack to some of us, because we've heard them for years in some form or another. When the world is getting me down, for years my mind immediately went into Estranged-mode, but for the last couple years, my mind immediately does to Madagascar. Just this last week, my best friend's wife pulled some MAJOR bullshit with him, and I could think about this weekend was Street of Dreams. It fits that cunt well.

If you can't wrap your mind around someone being able to put new GN'R songs with the old on a 'best of' list, I think it's more of a comment on the fact that at the end of the day - you just don't really think the new stuff is all that great, and you might be fighting it in some way. Me, the role is reversed, at times i'm embarrassed at how much I LOVE the new stuff, because it doesn't seem to be the "cool" or "popular" opinion to have among diehards or casual fans alike.

CD is going to end up splitting the fan world right down the middle imo, if it hasn't already begun. This album's imminent release is unearthing emotions in GN'R fans, where people's true opinions are going to start cropping up.

I think we've already started to enter those "uncharted waters".

#17076 Re: Guns N' Roses » How does the new material rank against the old? » 942 weeks ago

I love AFD, like all GN'R records. CD will be no different.

But i've listened to both AFD & the Illusion's so many times over, that I can't help but to want to 'patch holes' in the album's for my listening pleasure.


AFD:

-You're Crazy [electric]
-Anything Goes
+Move To The City [live era]
+Patience
+Used To Love Her
+You're Crazy [acoustic]

UYI (basically merge the albums):

Civil War
Yesterdays
Don't Cry [original]
Bad Obession
Breakdown
Locomotive
November Rain
The Garden
Estranged
You Could Be Mine
Coma


After you listen to alot of GN'R material over the years from the old catalog, eventually you just kind of move on. The only time you DO listen is for the stand outs.

#17077 Re: Guns N' Roses » How does the new material rank against the old? » 942 weeks ago

Other than Riad, the entire CD tracklist is stronger than You're Crazy [electric] & Anything Goes. Prositute & TWAT is stronger than anything on AFD. Out Ta Get Me & SCOM are vastly overrated.


The rest of the album is strong imo, and imo Think About You is vastly underrated.

I understand people view AFD as a masterpiece, and that's fine, but imo if you combine a few top-tier tracks from Lies on AFD, combine UYI 1 & 2, and this have a tri-face off between AFD/Lies vs. UYI vs. CD...

I do think CD has a fair shake in that competition.

You guys I think are approaching this with a bias that - "only nu-GNR fans would actually think CD can compete with AFD", when it reality what you're not realizing is - "only AFD fans would NOT understand that CD can be as good as AFD".

It all depends on the perception of the fan. But not all of us feel AFD is untouchable.

My top-5 only features ONE AFD song - Jungle. The rest is Illusion I, II & CD.

#17078 Re: The Garden » $150 million raised by Obama in September... » 942 weeks ago

Seriously? He spent the majority of that fighting Hilary?

I doubt that. McCain is still keeping up with Obama, and doesn't have a FRACTION of Obama's money.

#17079 Re: Guns N' Roses » RS Rock List: Guns N' Roses » 942 weeks ago

I hate to break it to you kozy, but 'Street of Dreams' will be the name.

Considering the fact it's been called The Blues for years, and even referred to as 'The Blues', the name change is probably final.

I don't quite understand it either, considering the big hook, the main name in the chorus is 'The Blues' to change to the name to 'Street of Dreams'.

Unless Street of Dreams is an entirely new song, and The Blues has been axed from CD I.

#17080 Re: Guns N' Roses » How does the new material rank against the old? » 942 weeks ago

Old Top-10:

Estranged
Coma
Welcome To The Jungle
Paradise City
November Rain
You Could Be Mine
Nightrain
Rocket Queen
Locomotive
Breakdown

Top-10 (w/ new songs):

Estranged
Coma
Prostitute
There Was A Time
Welcome To The Jungle
Paradise City
November Rain
Madagascar
Catcher N' The Rye
You Could Be Mine

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