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#1711 The Garden » Bush Asks Congress for $700 Billion Bailout » 946 weeks ago
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WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is asking Congress to let the government buy $700 billion in toxic mortgages in the largest financial bailout since the Great Depression, according to a draft of the plan obtained Saturday by The Associated Press.
The plan would give the government broad power to buy the bad debt of any U.S. financial institution for the next two years. It would raise the statutory limit on the national debt from $10.6 trillion to $11.3 trillion to make room for the massive rescue. The proposal does not specify what the government would get in return from financial companies for the federal assistance.
'We're going to work with Congress to get a bill done quickly,' President Bush said at the White House. Without discussing details of the plan, he said, 'This is a big package because it was a big problem.'
The White House and congressional leaders are hoping the legislation, which is still being developed, could pass as early as next week.
Administration officials and members of Congress were to negotiate through the weekend. The plan is designed to let faltering financial institutions unload their distressed mortgage-related assets on the government, and in turn the taxpayer, in a bid to avoid dire economic consequences.
Bush said he worried the financial troubles 'could ripple throughout' the economy and affect average citizens. 'The risk of doing nothing far outweighs the risk of the package, and over time we're going to get a lot of the money back.'
He added, 'People are beginning to doubt our system, people were losing confidence, and I understand it's important to have confidence in our financial system.'
'In my judgment, based upon the advice of a lot of people who know how markets work, this problem wasn't going to be contained to just the financial community,' the president said. He said he was concerned about 'Main Street' and that what happens on 'Wall Street' affects 'Main Street.'
Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., called the proposal 'a good foundation,' but raised concerns it 'includes no visible protection for taxpayers or homeowners.'
Democrats are insisting the rescue include mortgage help to let struggling homeowners avoid foreclosures. They also are also considering attaching additional middle-class assistance to the legislation despite a request from Bush to avoid adding controversial items that could delay action. An expansion of jobless benefits was one possibility.
Asked about the chances of adding such items, Bush sidestepped the question, saying only that now was not the time for political posturing. 'The cleaner the better,' he said about legislation he hopes Congress sends back to him at the White House.
If passed by Congress, the plan would give the Treasury secretary broad power to buy and sell the mortgage-related investments without any additional involvement by lawmakers. The proposal, however, would require that the congressional committees with oversight on budget, tax and financial services issues be briefed within three months of the government's first use of the rescue power, and every six months after that.
While the proposal contains no requirement that the government receive anything from banks in return for unloading their bad assets, it would allow the Treasury Department to designate financial institutions as 'agents of the government,' and mandate that they perform any 'reasonable duties' that might entail.
In a briefing to lawmakers Friday, Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke painted a grave picture of an economy on the edge of a major recession and telling them that action was urgent and imperative.
In a session with House Democrats, they described a plan where the government would in essence set up reverse auctions, putting up money for a class of distressed assets '” such as loans that are delinquent but not in default '” and financial institutions would compete for how little they would accept for the investments, said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., who participated in the conference call.
'You give them good cash; they give you the worst of the worst,' Sherman said. A critic of the plan, he complained that Bush and his economic advisers were trying to panic lawmakers into rubber-stamping it.
Paulson said the new troubled-asset relief program must be large enough to have the necessary impact while protecting taxpayers as much as possible.
'I am convinced that this bold approach will cost American families far less than the alternative '” a continuing series of financial institution failures and frozen credit markets unable to fund economic expansion,' Paulson said. 'The financial security of all Americans ... depends on our ability to restore our financial institutions to a sound footing.'
Administration officials hoped the rescue plan could be finalized this weekend, to lend calm to Monday morning's market openings, said Keith Hennessey, the director of the president's economic council. The goal is to have something passed by Congress by the end of next week, when lawmakers recess for the elections.
#1712 Re: The Garden » Pat Buchanan: "The Party's Over" » 946 weeks ago
Great posts guys.
I think this is a much needed wake up call to all of America to quit living outside of your means.
The best thing for any individual right now? Live within your means and save money. Don't expect the government to wipe your ass for you.
Newsflash to all the americans oppostite of what i just described- we're a democracy, get used to it, start adjusting to it.
I don't think either of these candidates can do what needs to be done right now.
#1713 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Album That Never Was » 946 weeks ago
The odds surely favor a reunion at this point.
I honestly don't think Scott would have just spouted that off without having real reason to say it. I believe a few previous members have said they've been offered huge amounts of money but turned it down. I could be wrong though.
I do find it very interesting that all of a sudden GNR's members are starting to drop out, and VR still haven't found a singer. They don't seem like they are trying too hard anyway right now, at least that's the way it seems with all the silence.
The way they've been towards each other in the press also shows that they could have reconciled things. There has been no negativity towards Axl at all, and that's pretty much including Sorum.
What makes me believe it more is that this is following the same pattern as the STP reunion. All of a sudden the ex members start talking about the band more, and start talking about each other with no negativity whatsoever. Turns out they had reconciled things, and i think this could be the case with GNR as well.
#1714 Re: Guns N' Roses » Democracy not eligible for Billboard 200? » 946 weeks ago
Neemo wrote:Axlin08 wrote:I think the midnight madness with the Illusions release would be comparable to an 'exclusive' release for CD.
you gotta be kidding...there is nowhere the level of excitement and anticiaption that there was leading up the the UYI release
That's not what i'm saying. The actual ACT of a midnight sale at the store imo would be comparable to an exclusive store release.
I would definently want to see how many people walk into Best Buy that day and get it. There's only one Best Buy in about a 50 mile range of me.
I also, for that reason, don't like exclusive releases. With a Wal Mart exclusive, you aren't going to have trouble finding it because Wal Marts are fucking everywhere. But Best Buy isn't the same way. If i go west in my state, it would be quite a while until i encountered another Best Buy. I think the second closest one (going west) is about 2 hours away.
#1715 Re: Guns N' Roses » Information on Shackler's Revenge » 946 weeks ago
Didn't know if any of you guys saw this or not but, Mysteron said that "Shackler's Revenge" is 6 years old.
There is no way it dates to pre-Bucket recording sessions, so Mysteron is just stating the obvious with this one. 
#1716 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Velvet Revolver Still Mulling New Frontman » 946 weeks ago
I know i've said before that Cornell wouldn't work...
But judging by what he's doing now, it would defiently be an improvement.
Best move for Cornell- Soundgarden.
#1717 Re: The Sunset Strip » Help with Horror » 946 weeks ago
Freaks is a pretty good movie, i watched that a few years ago. My grandma owns it.
Saw
Exorcist
Psycho
Halloween (your pick on which one)
TCM
And if you want to get an idea of huge letdowns...
The Sixth Sense and pretty much every movie M. Night has done.
I'd say The Devils Rejects as well.
#1718 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses on Universal Music Group Release List » 946 weeks ago
Are we really debating between the Replacements and GNR?
I don't know where you have been, but not too many people have heard of The Replacements, but just about everyone has heard of GNR.
Replacements having better songs and better quality albums? Not a chance.
I can't even believe this is being debated.
What next- Green Day is way more influential and much better songwriters than The Beattles?
#1719 Re: Guns N' Roses » Shannon Hoon Book to include chapter 'Axl and Shannon' » 946 weeks ago
Pretty good writing about Axl and Shannon.
Gives a much needed discussion of Axl's human qualities and willingness to help a friend.
#1720 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Velvet Revolver Still Mulling New Frontman » 946 weeks ago
TheMole wrote:Hah, excellent news:
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/09/ … ongoing%27Seems like a good deal to me. More Hard Rock, less Grunge, back to his roots (or "comfort zone", for all you nay-sayers out there). Seems to be the popular thing to do these days anyway (just ask Lars & Mr. Hetfield).
Heh. I think we all know who the most badass hard rock singer there is out there. It's right under their noses. Time to put the egos aside before it's too late.
Very true. They can make another so-so record, they can all do side projects or solo albums, or they can truly go back to their roots and make a really kickass rock record.
I think the best choice is obvious.
