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#17201 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Song Title: Lies They Tell/Scraped » 943 weeks ago
Bucket is gonna be all over this thing... this is great.
#17202 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR looking for ad agency » 943 weeks ago
Azoff will find someone good. I have total faith.
It's actually happening folks. IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING! AAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHH
#17203 Re: Guns N' Roses » RUMOR: Best Buy buys 3 million CD cd's upfront? » 943 weeks ago
I'm still thinking each are going to have bonus CD or DVD's, in addition to artwork, that will seperate the three.
#17204 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Starts on Best Buy.com » 943 weeks ago
I just can't believe that people are seeing this, and thinking it means nothing, because CD has been listed on some lame ass U.K. site for years.
Guys let me break this down to you.
Best Buy doesn't do this everyday. This a Wal-Mart. A Target type of company. This isn't like Amazon.com or any of the little youngens under them, like HMV or Play.
This is the real mother fuckin' deal.
It's actually happening. I keep waiting to wake up, and find Patrick Duffy in the shower (which would be... weird). The dream is reality folks, it's happening.
This also now confirms they will NOT be three different albums. Which now leads me to wonder, what will they do for each version to entice us to buy all three? And considering the fact the Vinyl's are three versions, my guess is their pressings will be very limited in order to turn a profit.
#17205 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 943 weeks ago
See, for me James' estimates are more realistic. 500,000 in this day and age seems really high to me.
Captain Winkler, you cant really compare GH to CD. The GH appeals to an entirely different audience, in my opinion. Greatest Hits sets are meant for the causual fan who enjoy these timeless classics but doesn't own the band's entire catalog. CD is more appealing to the diehards. So I'm not sure CD will even do a fraction of the GH sales, but I'll guess we'll see. Anyone know the first week sales for the GH?
I also question if people really care about CD. I mean yes, it certainly does get attention in the press, but what about the actual music buying public? I'm a total internet nerd and I visit a couple of other music boards and there has been very little interest in the news about CD being released. Not many people commented on either board, and the majority of the little comments were all negative. They were either bashing Axl or the leaks.
I don't know maybe there will be more interest when we get closer to the actual release date, but so far it has seemed pretty anti-climatic. The myth was greater than reality methinks.
And I think alot of people are going to come away from this with that perspective. The myth was far greater.
The audience will stay the same imo, no one gained, no one lost. The GN"R fans will be split, the purists will proclaim it to be blasphemy, while the Axl fans will claim it to be a natural progression, and probably better than the Illusions.
As for the 'hype' on this. I totally see what you're saying. Me too. The only people talking about this album are the GN'R diehards. The people who are going to be first day purchasers anyways. This certaintly isn't getting any kind of mainstream hype that I thought it would back in say... 2002.
The only reporters doing articles on it are already GN'R fans (like that MTV.com guy), but the regular folk just kind of glance and say "so it's a new GN'R record". Most don't even know the storied history behind CD.
This album will sell well, but i'm sticking to the 200k-300k first week range, which I think it's right in the ballpark. The curiosity will be there, and it will sell well, but people expecting this to be 1991-revisted. Midnight sales again. Best Buy's selling out of copies...
Expect to be sorely disappointed. This album will sell well, but with the amount that Best Buy has rumored to of purchased, they are going to be praying it doesn't go KISS-solo '78 on them.
#17206 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy potential track listing? » 943 weeks ago
Obviously a fake.
I personally believe that CD or CD I, will contain all of the leaks, but the additional 5-6 tracks will be new tracks, that we haven't even seen the titles before (ala Shackler).
I think it's gonna be totally new. If it were three albums, it'd be that, and some of the other titles we've seen will be scattered over the additional two. If they are multiple albums, Axl won't have to use all of his big Guns on one album. Remember with the Illusions, songs like Rain & Coma were on UYI 1 and songs Locomotive & Estranged were on UYI 2.
Something tells me that titles like Sorry, The General, This I Love and No Love Remains will be BIG Guns.
#17207 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 943 weeks ago
If it's one album, around 200,000, divided by three versions.
If it's three albums, around 300,000 (100k each).
#17208 Re: Guns N' Roses » My appologies to Axl and all the believers. » 943 weeks ago
Axl shall never forsake me.
#17209 Re: Guns N' Roses » RUMOR: Best Buy buys 3 million CD cd's upfront? » 943 weeks ago
I heard about the 3 million album advanced order on E! They were saying Axl is a financial genius because that deal makes sure he will turn a profit on the album even if it tanks commercially.
Only downside with a mass order like that is you run the risk of following in KISS's footsteps. In 1978 they shipped 1 million copies of each of the solo albums to guarantee they would all go platinum. Problem was they basically flooded record stores and KISS became overexposed as a result. In the end the solo LP's ended up in the bargain bins.
Hopefully that won't happen with Chinese Democracy. With $7.99 used copies of the CD available at every used music store in America for the next 30 years. But if the deal's true my hates off to Irving and Axl for pulling it off. Without Azoff we might NEVER have heard an official version of this album. Because Geffen & Axl may never have been able to figure out a way to turn a profit.
You make a great point right there. And that is one of the reasons more and more I believe this is three seperate albums.
I just think Best Buy would be slicing their own wrists buying (excluding Vinyl's) 3 million copies (assuming 1 million per 'version') of the same exact album, just different artwork.
It sounds good for Axl & UMG, but horrible for Best Buy who's making all the business decisions to begin with.
It's becoming clearer the only way this is going to work in the theory of 'same album, different artwork' is if they offer bonuses, that vastly differ from each version.
My mom (of all people) had a theory that it would be the same album, but all different versions of each song on the album, some songs would have alternate solos, some songs would be extended versions.
Interesting theory... 
#17210 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 943 weeks ago
I bet you better save that money for those Vietnamese boys you like "borrowing for an hour".
