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#17261 Re: The Garden » Companies Hit Hardest by Credit Crisis » 943 weeks ago

Fat ass Americans can't live without a Big Mac so McDonalds will be fine.


That's great. Quite possibly the funniest news out of this entire thing.

#17262 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 943 weeks ago

Robin with NIN is a concern, admittedly.  But it's never been stated that he won't come back.

It's also been stated by GN'R that they basically were not informed of this move, and have virtually no clue what he's doing or what his plans are.

That doesn't strike me as a lead guitarist that's on very good terms and is just busting down doors to return.

Axl's GN'R is ran like Trent's NIN. It's his show. His game. His art. Everyone else is replaceable, thus the reason he continued on (relatively speaking) without the original band members.

Robin Finck at this point, unless some jaw-dropping shock happens and he's credited all over CD comes across as a touring guitarist. Same with Richard.

Can they easily return? I guess you could look at it that way. My way of looking at it, is BECAUSE they are touring guitarist, when the TOURING guitarist is off with another act, that's even more of a sign they won't be back.

Tommy messing around with Paul could lead to a Mats reunion, but again nothing has been announced.

Tommy is gonna be all over this album. When he's hanging out with Paul a month and a half before CD's rumored release, with no announcement of any tour plans... doesn't strike me as a bassist that's "in".

Richard with Rhianna?  Seriously, are you still concerned with that?  He's a member of her backup touring band.  Can you name the guitar player for Madonna's backup touring band in the 80's?  How about Michael Jackson?  Who played guitar during "Dirty Diana"?  Did that guy leave a band like Guns N' Roses?  He's keeping himself busy but I'd bet my life if he was given the choice of GNR/Rhianna backing band he'd choose GNR every day and twice on Sunday.

Once again, like with Robin, when your TOURING guitarist is bailing for other work, especially close to an album's release, doesn't strike me as a guitarist that's "in". At this point it's anyone's guess as to how much of a fingerprint Richard will have on CD, myself leaning to "very little if any".

If if Richard is "GUNS N' ROSES rhythm guitarist Richard Fortus", doesn't mean that he'd return. At this point there's far more regular work AND money for Richard to stick to being a touring guitarist with a top-line A-list act who's a major artist right now, and actually relevant to pop culture. Something GN'R WILL NOT be with CD's release, no matter how hard they try. Plus counting GNR's inactivity on a regular basis, I think Richard would have to be a stone cold idiot to choose GN'R over Rihanna.

Unless he does have a fingerprint on CD, and it's about the art. But typically art doesn't mean shit to a lifetime touring guitarist. A steady, and hefty paycheck does.

And I respect Dizzy, but do you think his solo album is gonna set the world on fire?  Will he be the next Dave Grohl?  I wish the best for him, but I view that as a side project.  And even if the band is dead, I'd think Dizzy would be a part of the reunion.  Or is his solo gig gonna interfere with that too?

I only mentioned that to say, Dizzy's make alternate plans. Not to say he won't be in GN'R. I think it's pretty obvious Dizzy's stuff could be cancelled or delayed for GN'R, new or old. And if there's a reunion, he'll definitely be there. Dizzy ain't going anywhere, and if what Chris says is true, his work on CD just reinforces that. At this point, Dizzy is as much a member of GN'R as Axl in it's legacy. He's a staple. Even if he doesn't get the credit, Axl obviously wants him there.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Bumblefoot is now more interested in appearing with GNR cover bands.

Why would that be new? He's been doing that since 2006. 22

Plus I think Ron will actually have a writing hand in the final product. But that's just a personal opinion. He's not a Robin or Richard. Ron is actually an artist like Buckethead and/or Tommy.

I know some people want to see a reunion and are more than ready to bury the current incarnation of Guns N' Roses, but let's at least let them have their time in the sun.  We'll cross the reunion bridge when we get to it.  People seem to think that Axl, Slash, and Duff could get back together with a snap.  Do you really think it's that simple?  When's the last time Axl said something positive about any of those guys?  It's not that easy.  I'd be willing to bet you'll have to wait another 9 years for a reunion.  If that's what you wanna do, be my guest.

Why not? Ain't like GN'R is up to anything. Do you truely grasp how DEAD this band really is?

Neemo wrote:

i really doubt we will see a reunion any time soon...if anyone ever reads any Slash interviews he pretty much shoots it down every single time with out a shadow of a doubt...axl and slash are just on oposite ends of the spectrum right now...slash has a 3rd VR disk and a Solo album...Axl is trying to get the CD era off the ground....

the planets are just not aligned at the moment

3rd VR disc... i'll believe it when I see it. VR are even more dead than GN'R. I haven't seen Slash shoot down reunions in a couple years. All I ever see is him & Duff talk about reunions and asskiss Axl, and talk about how great of an artist he is.

Sounds to me like they WANT a reunion.

#17263 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pitmans official website opened » 943 weeks ago

for real? Paul became Axl's Izzy...his tie to Indiana...and as Axl said in Rio in 01...."without Paul there would be no more guns n roses" Paul has been a colaborator with Axl since back off bitch which is circa late 80's..that statement was the least surprising for me....i'm a bit shocked that pitman appears to have such a large role in writing and Stinson,Finck and Freese aren't even mentioned  he is of course talking abotu pre BH/Brain so i understand where they were left out of the discussion

I actually never took that statement seriously, and thought it was Axl just being nice, since Slash & Matt had really just dogged the living hell out of Paul in the press over the years, mainly painting him as a session guitarist.

I guess Axl meant it literally. That's where the surprise came for me.

#17264 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 943 weeks ago

I would be STUNNED if the new band tour to support CD... even if they ain't dead.

#17266 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pitmans official website opened » 943 weeks ago

Very intriguing. Chris is the main guy i've wanted to hear talk for years, because he's so quiet. I cheered for him when he was announced at concerts to be nice, but never quite understood why. Slinky keyboards included, lol.

I've always thought this guy was going to have HUGE hand in the structuring of the album, along with Bucket & Tommy, of course excluding Axl.

But the most interesting thing he states is how much of a hand Paul & Dizzy were having in writing material at that time. I wonder how much of their stuff, if any will directly correlate to CD. I just never thought those two, especially Paul, would have any hand in anything other than session recording during the long CD recording process.

#17267 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 943 weeks ago

faldor wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

My guess (as it has always been) is CD comes out and then there's a reunion.  It's the only thing that makes any sense and explains the lack of promotion, lack of news on any of the "band members", etc.  The album is being released through Best Buy to get the money upfront, contribute an album to satisfy the recording contract, and prepare for the real cash cow.

I've always said I wanted CD to come out ASAP because a reunion wouldn't happen until it did, I just never thought it would actually come out.  I think I win the free copy of CD that was offered at the old RoV site...my date is going to end up being the closest.

Yeah I was way off with my guess.  I forget when that was, 2006 I think?  I chose November of THAT year I think.  At least I had the month right.  Do I get a consolation prize?

I don't see a reunion happening, not anytime soon at least.  However, if Robin doesn't come back, say Tommy re-joins the Mats, then anything could happen.  But I expect Tommy to stay put and I even think Robin may actually return now that things are starting to shape up.  Give the new or current lineup at least one tour to promote a record that's theirs that's actually released first.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the new band - is dead. Done, over. The post-96 era is not officially closed because the album isn't out yet, nor has a reunion been announced... but it's like a TV show. Once the album is released, that'll be your 'series finale'. When the reunion is announced - 'official cancellation'.

Either way - show's over.

Robin is with NIN
Richard is with Rihanna
Tommy is back with Paul and 'rumored' talking Replacements reunion
Dizzy is working on a solo album

Buckethead & Brain, who both presumably appear on the album (Bucket is confirmed) are LONG GONE. If you were an 'active band', a true band, why would former members work be on your album? Doesn't make sense, unless they're all hired Guns. No different than the Oh My God sessions.

Only way Guns N' Roses re-emerge at this point, at least as a 'live act' will be in a reunion. Doesn't mean Axl can't continue the brand name on as a 'studio only' act, but he knows he can barely sell tickets at this point with the new band.

I also don't see Irving Azoff backing the new band. He's a BIG player, and if he knows more money can be made with a reunited GN'R, he'll push for it - HARD. If Axl balks, Azoff will have no problem showing AXL the door. He's not going to work with talent who don't want to work at their upmost potential both artistically and financially. He has a line WAITING outside of his door. He doesn't have time to dick around with Axl's feelings. It's all about the benjamins baby.

#17268 Re: The Garden » U.S. Debt Too Big for National Debt Clock » 943 weeks ago

lmao... problem with Paul is he's so far the other way, it'd take a 100 years to do to this country what he wants.


100 years BACK in time. I'm not saying it's the wrong thing to do, but it's just unrealistic.

#17269 Re: The Garden » Lost my job yesterday... » 943 weeks ago

Corrupt people aren't to blame... IDIOTS are to blame. Amateurs. Lightweights. People that couldn't get a job as dog catcher anywhere else run our banks.


But greed is an entity. Not one person. And it's born in capitalism.


The Democrats & Republicans BOTH have their nasty fingerprints all over this thing. BOTH of them, all over it. But fortunately or unfortunately (depending on how you look at it), the Republicans will take the heat. Why? Because the Republicans have been torch carries for 'free market' practically - forever. This flaming bag of dog shit will be laid at their door step. Bottom line. They'll take the fall, and it's their own damn fault they'll take the fall. They backed the wrong horse.

That happens.

And it's also going to be a main reason McCain doesn't win next month. That, and the fact he's probably ran the most godawful, direction-less campaign since Al Gore in 2000.

I feel bad for Tejas, as I do others. This is going to happen more and more sadly, and it's gonna get alot worse before it gets better.

But people sitting back saying this happened because we DON'T have a free market are people that stun me beyond belief. Granted free market isn't the ONLY reason, but to feel our market isn't free in this country (when the world will tell you otherwise) is someone who's in denial. This financial catastrophe has only PROVEN that there needs to be MORE regulations and MORE regulations on top of those. Is that Socialism? Sounds like it, but that's fine by me. If you think the system right now is repairable or could work with 'honest' people... i've got ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

Even if we got the most honest of honest people in there, I wouldn't trust those guys, probably for the rest of my lifetime. Watch history folks, this will be an issue that will impact a generation's perception on the country, no different than the Great Depression.

And like always - perception is reality. Even if truth is gray.

#17270 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 943 weeks ago

Two great prolific posts James. A great summary and outlook on the future.

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