With GN'R, excuse me, Axl, there's always that danger. Granted he's not responsible for someone else's decisions or actions, but it happens when you play with people like that.

Your older fans are now parents, with jobs. They're paying the babysitter by the hour. You've got the pit paying $8 per beer that have been standing there for 4 hours.

If you push a human being, any human being, to uncomfortable conditions, that's the reaction you're gonna get. Look at Woodstock '99.

I know Axl didn't take the stage til just after midnight in Tampa '06, and the crowd there were getting pretty restless at that point. People were leaving in droves figuring he'd no-show, fights were starting to break out in the pit, people were throwing their trash up on stage, it was slowly starting to devolve... then the lights go down and Jungle starts, fitting the exact mood perfectly.

I understand the man has to get mentally ready for a performance, and as a procrastinator myself I can understand where he's coming from, i'd probably come on late too - just not THAT late.

Hell for Estero, I actually showed up 3 hours late to the show... and still beat Axl by 30 minutes.

Like with Detroit 2002, this whole attitude of "with GN'R you don't know if you're gonna get 1 song or 10 songs, because if something gets under the crawl of Axl..." (I think Riki Rachtman said that). The point is that shit, that unpredictability was kinda cool back in the day, leaning into GNR's unpredictability, that cool tension, that this band could be dead tomorrow. But it ain't 1988 anymore, it isn't 1992 anymore... it's not even 2002 anymore. That kind of stuff, to the casual person comes across as irresponsible and asshole-ish, and even with GN'R continuing the attitude of "we play what we want to play" I think at this point is tiresome. Your diehards are the only ones attending shows at this point, and if we tell you to play this, and not play that, you should at least listen.

*end rant*

If the finals = less Bucket.... probably the demos.

Hey jerk, what's with the attitude and name calling, just because your ass got shut the fuck down?

If you want this to devolve into flaming, we can do that, i'm sure the mods will be glad to lock it.

I hear what you're saying, but with all due respect, back the fuck off with the sarcastic "tejas" and "dude", and then calling James an asshole because he called you a "liberal". Two totally different words, a-hole being much stronger.

Dude FactCheck.org is an unbiased, honest, "just the facts" source.

If you believe anything different from that place, you're CHOOSING to pick and choose what truth you want.

What's on FactCheck is the t-total truth.