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#1871 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago

Miley Cyrus threatens to leave US if Trump wins

It's no party in the U.S.A. Miley Cyrus cried over Donald Trump on Wednesday, March 2, hours after he won seven state victories in the Super Tuesday primaries.

The singer — who is a huge animal lover — slammed the Republican presidential front-runner in an Instagram post, which has garnered more than 200,000 likes. She posted one photo of the business mogul, 69, posing with a female hunter. In a second graphic pic, the unidentified woman is holding up a dead mountain lion.

"Yes. That is a tear rolling down my cheek dripping off the end of my nose..... This makes me so unbelievable scared and sad.... Not only for our country but for animals that I love more than anything in this world."

"Honestly fuck this shit I am moving if this is my president! I don't say things I don't mean!"

Cyrus, 23, captioned the collage.

We'll miss you Miley 14

#1873 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago

How Donald Trump Can Beat Hillary Clinton

He spent years as a moderate. He spent years as a nationalist. Why can’t he spend six months being a moderate nationalist?

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton’s Super Tuesdays put them on a collision course this fall. Betting markets make Clinton the strong favorite, given Trump’s high unfavorables, his incendiary comments about minorities, and the fact that members of his own party seem eager to disavow him. But Trump’s strengths and grand strategy make him considerably more dangerous in a general election than people seem to think.

There are two pieces of conventional wisdom about Donald Trump that don't fit comfortably together. On the one hand, people seem to think Trump’s appeal transcends the issues and that he doesn’t really care about policy. On the other hand, he’s considered unelectable because of his policies, like building a Mexican wall and banning Muslim immigrants.

But here’s the problem: If Trump doesn’t care about policy and his appeal truly transcends issues, what’s stopping him from becoming a starkly different person in the general election, the same way he's morphed, with convenient timing, from a moderate businessman—supportive of Canadian health care, a friend of Democrats, an admirer of Hillary Clinton—to a nationalist demagogue?

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Pragmatists like to seek solace in the quote, “You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” The quote is falsely attributed to Lincoln (fooling people is easy, it turns out, if you just repeat the fib emphatically enough), yet I wouldn’t be surprised if the Clinton campaign used the line, to contrast the Republican forefather’s virtue with Trump’s chintzy salesmanship.

The thing about majoritarian government, though, is that nobody has to fool everybody all the time. Donald Trump’s objective couldn’t be clearer. He only has to fool half the people once.

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#1874 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alice In Chains as Opening Act in Vegas? » 532 weeks ago

I forgot about the price they're charging...

#1875 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alice In Chains as Opening Act in Vegas? » 532 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Interesting choice yet somehow not a shocker. He loves those bands. Was even in the Mad Season reunion last year. I had a feeling they would go the Stones route and take out a variety of huge artists/bands throughout the tour. Guess not.

That's what they should do to sell this thing as an event.

But if they are sticking with AIC for the whole tour that's not a bad choice either. For people growing up in the 80s and 90s that's looking like a pretty sweet deal for a show.

#1876 Re: Guns N' Roses » Did IZZY STRADLIN Join TWITTER And Say Something About GUNS N' ROSES? » 532 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

So then you have to ask - if Axl/Slash/Duff get a reunion payday with or without Izzy - what do they get out of cutting him in?

All they get is a tad more legitimacy, but they've been GNR with no Izzy or Steven before on the UYI tour, and hell, Axl has toured with a lot of folks as GNR. It's not needed for the media. So what then? Just cos it's fun - but you temper that fun with Izzy possibly bailing...and calling out your bullshit...and whatever else...and well....hmmm.....maybe you keep the money and cut richard a soft fee to show up instead.

Yeah. Unfortunately this comes down to the money. Including Izzy is going to cost you, and you are not getting paid more if he's in. What would have been something to do just for fun suddenly becomes a big financial decision. And at 50+ there are wives, ex wives, kids in private schools. Huge overhead.

Though with the reported fees for these gigs, they are really looking like a bunch of Scrooges if they aren't willing to offer Izzy a deal he's going to accept. Obviously he wouldn't be an equal partner in Axl's band, and I think he's fine with that, but they need to show he's just not a hired gun. That's one of the reasons he quit the band in the first place.

#1877 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

For people who say Trump is the most disliked candidate, what about Hillary? Trump has a lot of haters, but he also has a lot of fans. I have literally not seen a single person say they like Hillary. Not one.

She has more total votes than anybody in this years election?!

I know, which is why I'm wondering who those people are. I haven't met any of them.

#1879 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago

For people who say Trump is the most disliked candidate, what about Hillary? Trump has a lot of haters, but he also has a lot of fans. I have literally not seen a single person say they like Hillary. Not one.

#1880 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago

If you have been watching the news lately you know that Donald Trump disavowed the endorsement of racist David Duke. Unless you are watching CNN, in which case, their version of the news is that he didn’t do enough disavowing that one time.

If you’re a racist, you have a reason to like Trump because of CNN’s intentional misreporting and the fact that Trump didn’t do enough disavowing that one time. If you’re not a racist, you can like Trump because he disavowed racists several times, in writing and on video.

That’s strategic ambiguity.

If you hate socialized healthcare, you might like Trump, because he hates socialized medicine too. Except that he also says he won’t let people with no money “die on the streets.” So if you like socialized medicine, you might like giving free healthcare to those people, like Trump.

That’s strategic ambiguity.

If you hate illegal immigrants, you might like Trump because he says he will deport every one of them. But if you feel compassion for illegal immigrants who are otherwise good residents of the country, you know Trump always makes a big first offer and will later negotiate to something humane and reasonable.

That’s strategic ambiguity.

If you oppose war, you might like Trump because he opposed the Iraq war and has a history of being reluctant to commit U.S. forces overseas. But if you think the U.S. should keep bombing other countries, Trump might be your candidate because he wants to bomb the shit out of ISIS and maybe kill some of their families too.

That’s strategic ambiguity.

If you want a religious president, Trump can give you that. He has belonged to a church since youth and says the Bible is a great book. But if you don’t like mixing religion and politics, Trump might be your candidate because he hasn’t made a big deal about religion.

That’s strategic ambiguity.

I could go on like this for another hour or so, but I think you get the picture. And when you see the pattern, you realize none of it is by accident. Trump intentionally gives opposing sides reasons to like him, or at least not disqualify him. And as ridiculous as it seems for a strategy, it works like a charm because of confirmation bias. People see whatever they want to see.

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