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#11 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 279 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Do you really think if the global economy is impacted by this, people will sign up for Bernie’s plan to torch everything and start anew?

Shit, I wish that was the case. Or if it is, they just don't want to start it over my way. Too bad, because I got a yearnin' to do some burnin'!

10.84% drop since Friday's close.

Life comes at you fast, GOP.

#12 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 280 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

Most people are somewhere in the middle leaning one way or the other. For whatever reason (and I know I've been saying this for at least a decade now) the extremes are getting more and more power on both sides and the masses in the middle aren't being represented by anyone.  This system doesn't work like that and it will implode sooner or later.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. A THOUSAND GODDAMN TIMES THIS.

We are a country of 330 million people. Finland is a country of five million. Finland has 11 political parties represented at the national level. We have two. Sure, there are three "independents" but one is a socialist who is running for president as a Democrat, one is a libertarian who is a pro-impeachment Republican, and one is pretty much a Democrat.

I consider myself fairly middle of the line. When I lived in states that required voters to register with a party, I was a Libertarian. My current state, thankfully, does not require this. In 2008 (Ron Paul) and 2012 (Ron Paul) I voted in the Republican primaries, and since Joe Walsh has seen the writing on the wall that his candidacy doesn't stand a chance, this year I'll vote in the Democratic one (currently waffling between Klobuchar and Buttigieg). I don't think I voted in the 2016 primary: it was clear Clinton was getting the Democratic nomination and I don't like Sanders, and none of the Republicans were worth a damn to me.

When someone asks where my views lie, it's with a party that no longer exists. I'm an Eisenhower-era Republican (basically, pre-Nixon and the Southern Strategy). I believe a New England Republican and a Midwestern Rural Democrat have far more in common with each other than they have with the unfortunately becoming-more-empowered fringes of their "own" parties. Mitt Romney's defection on the impeachment vote lends credence to this idea as he was Governor of Massachusetts while I lived there. I'm about to read a book called Recarving Rushmore that I'm really looking forward to-- it ranks the presidents from best to worst on a scale involving peace, prosperity, and liberty and how their policies contributed to (or took away from) all three.

I'm not opposed to voting for a Democrat or a Republican (at least I wasn't on the latter before their complicity against holding a trial that actually has crazy ideas like evidence and witnesses), but I'm not going to vote for whoever gets trotted out because they aren't Trump. You have an unpopular president and the Democrats are doing nothing to try to carry the middle that could/should lead them to victory. Trot Sanders out there and you've guaranteed I'm going third party.

If anyone was wondering about those rankings from the book, I don't have the full ones, but here's a few bits from the summary I read...

PEACE
Best: Tyler, Harding, Hoover
Worst: Madison, Polk, McKinley, Wilson, Truman, GWB, JFK, LBJ

PROSPERITY
Best: Tyler, Van Buren, Hayes
Worst: FDR, LBJ, McKinley, Wilson, Truman

LIBERTY
Best: Washington, Tyler, Cleveland
Worst: Wilson, Jefferson (!), Truman, Adams, Polk, McKinley, Reagan, GWB

OVERALL
Best: Tyler, Cleveland, Van Buren, Hayes

#13 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 282 weeks ago

The "normals" are going to back this guy?

https://www.newsweek.com/michael-bloomb … A63floIHQ8

Not a fan of anyone, as usual, but ISideWith puts me as matching closest to Yang, Bloomberg, and Steyer.  I tend to prefer Delaney, Buttigieg, and Gabbard if someone held a gun to my head and told me to pick a top three.

I'll likely end up with whoever the Libertarians trot out again. Again, as usual.

#14 Re: Guns N' Roses » Trying to play like slash!! » 287 weeks ago

McGann wrote:

I can’t play guitar...
Thus, thoughts likely meaningless...
But I think you rock!

Splash

/Mike

The HTGTH haiku-writing motherfucker is alive!!!!!  Good to see you still around.

#15 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R to Play Super Bowl Fest, Miami, 31st January 2020 » 290 weeks ago

wasted wrote:

It’s like as teams of slaves are building a cathedral or a pyramid, there’s a hot dog stand making a killing off the job site. Then the pyramid vanished, but no one knows, people are still buying hot dogs outside. Every few years the pharaoh comes out and we believe the building is still underway and buy more hotdogs. CD II aka Pharaoh Hologram is coming soon.

Great, now I'm envisioning Axl et. al. as The Leader from the Movementarians episode of The Simpsons...

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#16 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Best of the Rough Mixes Disc 1-4, Round 1 » 291 weeks ago

I just can't seem to get into Zodiac at all, whereas the other three have been among my most-listened to.

#17 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 291 weeks ago

Where did I ever bring up the Democrats in any way? You're grasping at straws here.

Put a Democrat in office, have them do the same stuff, and I'll call them out as well.  I spent a good eight years doing exactly that-- drone wars, shitty QE policy, outright lies on the ACA, I could go on.

Try harder.

#18 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 291 weeks ago

No blind hatred here. All I said is it's not an excuse and yes, it makes you an apologist if you think being the same as everyone else somehow makes it all okay. When Trump marketed himself as the guy who would "drain the swamp" or whatever horseshit he insisted on and then proceeds to act exactly like Swamp Thing, it makes his hypocrisy that much more rightfully magnified.

#19 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 291 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

Its disturbing how many people think that these traits are unique to Trump and all these other politicians are squeaky clean and only worried about the well being of the middle class...

It's also amazing how many Trump apologists use this as a defense of the guy.

"Well yeah he's terrible, but so is everyone else." Fuck that and fuck your Soviet-style whataboutism.

#20 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 293 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
shutout52 wrote:
misterID wrote:

This hysteria is grating. Seriously, is there anyone here, outside SG, who actually wants Trump as President? For three years he's been a week from impeachment, removal and prison. It's not going to happen. Not unless there's something big we haven't heard of yet.

No one, aside from the lunatic fringe has ever thought it's "a week" away. Or even a month. Anyone who knows a goddamn thing about politics, criminal investigations, and the processes of either knows it takes a while.

You must be new.  There's 2 members who have said this non-stop for 3 years.

I also never said they aren't part of the aforementioned lunatic fringe of the party.

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