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#2021 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 552 weeks ago
Past prime or not, my ass is THERE when it happens.
In the meantime, we can stay busy...
#2022 Re: The Garden » MPs and Royals implicated in pedo cover up » 553 weeks ago
Cramer wrote:She made people furious with that back then.
It was tragic. It killed her career. She could have recorded another Dark Side of the Moon and nobody would have cared.
She was amazing and didn't deserve that hell but it was her own fault for doing it. When doing something of that magnitude you better properly weigh the risks.
It was a much more conservative time back then too. Although these days with social media I think it would blow up, just in a different way.
#2023 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 553 weeks ago
I dunno...at the end of the day gnr was huge...they may be somewhat successful in current years. ..but I doubt anything could beat the rush of the huge shows they played in the 90s...I know Axl appeared and acted frustrated at lack of enthusiasm at some shows from 2006-2012...I doubt he would need to worry about that kinda thing at a reunion. .
I'd be curious to see how a reunion would play out in regards to crowds. We exist in a bubble here, a self contained forum nerd utopia of sorts. I'm sure larger markets in America would sell out, but overall it would not surprise me if it wasn't as big a deal as we imagine it to be. That era of rock music and record sales seems light years away now. The original band will be much older, but so will their fans. I'm a die hard, and in good shape for my age (44 1/2 but who is counting) and I'm finding late nights a drag sometimes, my feet hurt from standing, I use ear plugs, and am generally not as excited as I was 5-10 years ago.
Most casual fans who probably made up a bulk of crowds/record sales those days are also 45-50 yrs old, and look at music differently than we do. We all know people like this. "Why are you listening to this OLD music?" they ask. They simply follow what is popular, and discard it once it's no longer in vogue. Are these people going to care that much if the original line up (or 3/5 of them) get back on stage vs the previous incarnation? When they still have mortgages, kids, bills, and aren't interested in staying out until 1 in the morning?
GnR could/would have been as big as the Stones...but they weren't. They stopped short and disbanded. I tend to think a reunion now is once again striking while the iron is cold. I'd imagine if they reunited in the early 2000s (with no "Nu GnR" preceding them) it would have been much bigger deal. Of course this is all hypothetical speculation, and I could be totally wrong. But we've had this strange era of Axl's version of GnR that has slowly decomposed in front of us, becoming worse and worse over the years. The guy has watered down the brand, and anybody who isn't a forum freak says his voice is cringe-worthy-which I agree. Casual listeners think of that image, now with 70% more GnR and may not give a shit.
Curious to see what happens. My dream is that Axl loses that weight, works on his voice and comes back with the old guys. More than anything, all I care about is getting new music from that original line up.
#2024 Re: Guns N' Roses » Baz pipedreams about DJ/Guns song » 553 weeks ago
Wasn't Bach the one who said Sorry was doom metal?
Either way sucks that everything is staying the vault... forever
If it's in the vault, it's probably in there because it sucks. Otherwise we would have heard it already.
#2025 Re: The Garden » MPs and Royals implicated in pedo cover up » 553 weeks ago
She made people furious with that back then.
#2026 Re: The Garden » MPs and Royals implicated in pedo cover up » 553 weeks ago
The Catholic church has systematically covered up the sexual abuse and exploitation of children for DECADES NOW. What's worse is that they never fired these kiddie fuckers, only transferred them, where the could continue to rape children again and again. I never realized the scope of these crimes until I watched a documentary on it, which was followed with further readings.
How can anybody sit idle, knowing an organization they belong to did this, and not leave? To me, the members are just as complicit as the twisted hierarchy that turned a blind eye as life after life was ruined.
The real kicker is the arch conservative wing of the church, who continually compare homosexuality to pedophilia while arguing against gay marriage etc. Some fucking nerve!
I think this said it all quite well:
#2027 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 553 weeks ago
slashsfro wrote:Apparently, despite the shows and the potential earning power of the subsequent CD/DVD sales, in agreeing to the terms and conditions, each member then agrees that all rights to the entire Guns N' Roses back catalogue would henceforth transfer to Axl.
This would actually make sense. A limited reunion to get more control of the name, then presumably continue on with CD.
That would be amazingly lame.
#2028 Re: The Garden » Heroin » 554 weeks ago
I'm truly sorry for the loss of your brother.
I got sober on Sept 10th 1997, and asked my old best friend (and co-junkie since childhood) to come with me. We had been getting drunk and high together for a decade.
He was unwilling or unable to do so.
I wrote him a 10 page letter a few years after that, outlining a successful sobriety program, told him life could be better, and begged him to try. He didn't and died a few years after that at age 37 in 2008. He had a cardiac arrest.
I'll never forget that. Mostly because we went down the same path and I was able (by a miracle) to get clean. His story was mine if I had not.
I'm middle aged now, and our friendship is just a memory. His daughter has grown up and now has a baby of her own. It's all very odd, even after all these years.
My condolences.
#2029 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 555 weeks ago
A hybrid band would essentially be more of the same IMO. Get the old band back together or just call it quits.
#2030 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 555 weeks ago
Having said all that, I understand fans like Cramer's current stance on this CD era. Axl jumped the shark and many have lost interest in it completely. Someone like Cramer flew across the country in 01 to check it out but like me, probably wouldn't go down the block to see it now. .
Absolutely correct.
