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#2281 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 933 weeks ago
BB isn't the problem. Anyone that claims it is isn't fooling anybody else. Last time I checked, you could still order the album at www.bestbuy.com, so anybody that wanted to buy a copy could do so without ever leaving their house. Did it hurt sales? Sure. Was it the difference in being #1 or #2? No. The interest in the music/band did that. Axl has nobody to blame but himself anyway because he approved whatever decision was made. He took the quick $$ over the art, which is fine. His fans have to accept that.
Absolutely.
Those who think CD would have sold 3 times more in Walmart... Hey... Do you think the majority of the 784,000 people who bought AC/DC's album on the first week were impulse buyers? The T-shirts made them buy the album? They caught a glimpse at the huge AC/DC towels and bought one? No way. Most of them were AC/DC fans, hardcores or softcores. I don't think that even the first AC/DC single made such an impact to make 100,000s buy Black Ice.
The truth is that CD was not only promoted poorly (credit goes to Axl), but the potential buyers don't think it's a true Guns N' Roses record. Rockers were always closer to Slash's pure rock and roll than Axl's dolphin vision. Most of them won't buy it, cause for a lot of them Slash, Duff and Izzy, the badasses were GN'R and Axl was Elton John II. Casual buyers didn't get the interviews in magazines, haven't bought it. Teenage girls will not go nuts for a middle-aged man who doesn't even speak or appear. Teenage boys...well, unlikely, but with some presence in MTV or a tour Axl could have won some nu-metal fans, but songs like Street of Dreams, If The World, Madagascar etc. won't make the younger audience interested.
That's what left, 500,000 GN'R fans.
#2282 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 933 weeks ago
And it still did 261k opening week.
I'm actually seeing this a bit differently after reading that article.
Wal-Mart has over THREE TIMES the stores Best Buy has.
If they'd put CD in Wal-Mart, coupled with WM's promo, it might've did better than Black Ice, if not went instant-platinum, and #1.
I think it's a daydream. If people had been so interested in Axl's version of Guns N' Roses, they would have managed to go to a BB or ordered it online.
#2283 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brian May Talks About Catcher n The Rye » 933 weeks ago
Yeah, same here. I don't wanna see 60-year old clowns playing It's So Easy or Estranged. ('Old at heart but I'm only 65')
#2284 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brian May Talks About Catcher n The Rye » 933 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:I don't believe in the blame BB theory. They ordered 1.3 million copies and paid for that. That's a lot of money and as it seems, there is little to no chance for them to capitalize on it. Maybe in some stores the employees were lazy, I don't know, but they couldn't have done more to promote it without the GN'R camp's involvement. Not releasing a video and not giving interviews were the biggest mistakes.
Putting it in Best Buy instead of Wal-Mart was the biggest mistake. Wal-Mart is everywhere, Best Buy isn't. And people go to Wal-Mart not for electronics crap but mainly for groceries and essential things.
I see your point and absolutely agree, but it seems that the only way the album got a chance to be released was a BB or Walmart-type deal, where the chain pays in advance. Axl spent so much of the record company's money on this record for years that it's clear they wanted back as much as they could. BB was a fool to agree on the deal. I don't think Axl suffered financially, although, despite what a lot of people say, he/his rock star image suffers badly of the low sales. Anyway, I seriously doubt Axl had no say in this decision, although I'm not sure if his position was strong enough to do too much against it.
#2285 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 933 weeks ago
Russtcb wasn't it you who posted last year an article about how rock albums usually don't come out around Christmas, because rock fans tend to not give albums as gifts. Whereas hip-hop albums do come out around the holidays.
I bought 3 albums this year as Christmas presents and even bought one for myself, cause it was cheap. 
#2286 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brian May Talks About Catcher n The Rye » 933 weeks ago
I don't believe in the blame BB theory. They ordered 1.3 million copies and paid for that. That's a lot of money and as it seems, there is little to no chance for them to capitalize on it. Maybe in some stores the employees were lazy, I don't know, but they couldn't have done more to promote it without the GN'R camp's involvement. Not releasing a video and not giving interviews were the biggest mistakes.
#2287 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 933 weeks ago
I just got a text from Guns N'Roses, ChineseDemocracy.co.uk.
It says: "get £1 off Chinese Democracy at Amazon.co.uk with this voucher code..."
Thats £6.97, dirt cheap for a new album.
Yeah, as far as I know Virgin sells older cds for £7.00 in the UK and it's a new one.
#2288 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose/Dexter forum chat discussion thread » 934 weeks ago
Mental illness isn't something that just goes away. I'm surprised that after all what happened and not happened in the GN'R/Axl Rose world in the last 5-10-20 years you are in denial. Haven't you realized that he always blames others? How the whole world, journalists, musicians, managers, fans just wanna get him? Haven't you realized his no-shows, total reclusive years, his antics on and off stage? Haven't you heard of his comments a few years ago about the 'reunion' that meant he had to collect the pieces of his mind? Etc., etc., etc.
Oh, doesn't matter anyway, it's not important at all, doesn't afffect my life or yours.
#2289 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose/Dexter forum chat discussion thread » 934 weeks ago
It's a well-known fact that those who have mental illness seem to be honest and sincere
Do you refer to anyone you feel is a bit "off" by diagnosing them with an mentall illness a doctor never did?
Axl is diagnosed with mental illness. Manic depression isn't fun (he talks about it in older interviews) and he's paranoid as hell, although I'm not sure if he got a doctor to tell him. Maybe once it happened, but he later realized that Slash paid for the wrong diagnose. 
#2290 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Elimination Round 2 » 934 weeks ago
Prostitute again.
