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#21 Re: Guns N' Roses » Eagles may predict the future? » 374 weeks ago
I don't see Axl running this ship for as long as Henley has The Eagles. There's alot of diehard Eagles fans still in shits that Vince Gill is out there touring with them right now, and not Don Felder or Bernie Leadon.
I think Axl genuinely has re-sparked his musical juices with this AC/DC thing. Living a dream so to speak. I think Axl will have no problem releasing catalog titles with bonus material, live albums, etc. while Slash tours with The Conspirators, and Axl runs off and records with AC/DC, then tours for 2-3 years on it, while GN'R is just a studio band pumping out back catalog shit.
Unless Axl completely vocally breaks down, or throws his mic at Angus... very soon... I would not be shocked if he becomes "Axl Rose... exclusively lead singer of AC/DC" for many years to come, until Angus gets ready to hang it up.
#22 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR.FM | Destruction Is Coming » 374 weeks ago
You say Remaster
You mean Re-Arranging. Or Remix.
Remaster just means cleaning up the old songs and making them fresh. The exact reason for a new release. lol...
#23 Re: Guns N' Roses » Which Guns N’ Roses Song Are You? » 374 weeks ago
After all these years... i'm still ready to destroy. I got...
#24 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR.FM | Destruction Is Coming » 374 weeks ago
Monk that 1999 re-record has flown the coup along with Bucket & his chickens. Axl has the most solid GN'R tribute lineup he's ever had, and most successful -- right now.
I'd love to hear that stuff too, but me thinks it'd make more sense on an CD/Echo of Miles release than a release having to do with the original Guns N' Roses.
My expectation bar is in the fucking basement (ala Neemo). All this shit should've happened LAST FUCKING YEAR like other albums such as Whitesnake '87 that got the big Super Deluxe Edition treatment.
My hopes, at the least.
Disc 1:
AFD Re-mastered + Shadow of Your Love [2018 Remix], Jumpin' Jack Flash [2018 Remix]
That should be the base-CD. The cheap one.
Dream list:
CD1: AFD Re-mastered (original 12 tracks remastered)
CD2: AFD Reconstructed (new tracklist, re-arranging tracks similar to setlists and removing Anything Goes & electric-You're Crazy for extended versions of Nightrain, Rocket Queen, as well as adding 2018 remixes of Shadow of Your Love, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Patience, Used To Love Her & acoustic You're Crazy
CD3: Demos of anything and everything they'd like to put on it
CD4: Some HQ un-released Live Performance from 1987-88
#25 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook Announcement » 424 weeks ago
Hoping for original 5 dates.
This, or something AFD deluxe related.
There's no way they'd make a video, in that way, just to announce more dates. They've added dates time and again, and never made a video for it.
Plus the color-style for all of that video, matches, the color pattern for the recent leaked photo of a released AFD-cover that looks similar to Whitesnake 1987, with the gold, white, and vintage/weathered creme-colors.
#26 Re: The Garden » Chris Cornell dead » 424 weeks ago
bigbri wrote:Doctors are the new drug dealers.
Agreed. I don't think this is a case where he took a few too many Ativan. Of course, I may be wrong and while I don't want to judge, I have a feeling he was hooked. For how long I'm not sure, likely at least during the tour. Just couldn't do it anymore, needed some kind of buzz to get thru the shows. A high, or better yet, a low. To present himself and his art. He could have built up quite a tolerance and taking multiple (5-10) a night, maybe more to get thru the day.
He does seem spaced in the My Wave video. Also Ben, the bassist, seems remarkably going thru the motions. I don't know if he always played so standoffish looking, but almost seems he's in disagreement of Chris' 'people need to leave me alone' type comment before the song. That part I'm reading into of course.
I will say that we do have an over the top prescription pill problem in this country. It's terrible. Not just celebrities (how many have we lost the last 5-10 years??) but it trickles down into the opiod epidemic and pill mills ruining towns and lives. I'll admit, that's one thing the Obama admin fell short on. Cracking down on that industry. Money talks I'm sure.
I don't think Ben & Chris cared for each other that much, beyond just mutual respect of talent. Ben can be short-tempered and Chris would do stuff that I think rubbed Ben as self-aggrandizing at times, and even since the reunion in 2010, there's been a weird vibe between the two of them, and Ben seems to put up an invisible wall with Chris to even be able to tolerate Chris. James has actually pointed this out prior to Cornell's death, and is very visible in multiple videos since the reunion kicked off.
As for Cornell's update stuff, none of us are going to know something new until the autopsy is done, but after the County ME released the report with the timeline of what was going on... it looks more and more to me like Cornell was done and his decision was done.
How long does it take one to get off a stage? When did SG get done? Around 11? Not only was Cornell back at the Hotel, someone as MASSIVELY high profile as Cornell was off stage, back in his room, and dead within what... a little over an hour? That's fucking fast. Really fucking fast. The only other weird scenario would be murder, but i'm not seeing anything of that here.
Maybe he called his wife who tried to talk him out of it? And she just told him to take an extra Ativan?
I know it's all speculation and conjecture, but when I heard that timeline of when they found him, it leans even more to something Cornell planned, might've had second thoughts, and then went through it. Depression is a chronic condition, he was probably thinking about this regularly depending on his mood.
Anyways, RIP to him, and love to his kids and friends, and mom, and the Seattle family. It's just so sad.
#27 Re: The Garden » Chris Cornell dead » 424 weeks ago
Holy shit...this story is now taking a very bizarre and more tragic turn....
The family of Chris Cornell are speaking out about the shocking death of the Soundgarden and Audioslave frontman, who was found dead at MGM Grand Detroit on Wednesday night. The medical examiner ruled that Cornell died of suicide by hanging, but the family believes he was not suicidal and instead hint that the side effects of his prescription drugs may have led to his death.
The Cornell family’s attorney Kirk Pasich said in a statement that the family is “disturbed” at inferences that Cornell knowingly and intentionally took his life and that Cornell told his wife that he had taken “an extra Ativan or two” before his death.
“Without the results of toxicology tests, we do not know what was going on with Chris — or if any substances contributed to his demise,” Pasich said. “Chris, a recovering addict, had a prescription for Ativan and may have taken more Ativan than recommended dosages. The family believes that if Chris took his life, he did not know what he was doing, and that drugs or other substances may have affected his actions.”
Ativan (lorazepam) is a benzodiazepine that is used to treat anxiety, drug withdrawal, agoraphobia and seizure disorders, among other things. According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, rare but serious side effects include worsening depression, unusual mood or behavior and thoughts of hurting yourself.For a small percentage of Ativan users, it can have crazy side effects. Looks like one of the greatest singers of our time may have wound up being in that extreme minority.
This is shocking.
Ironically, this was the very first thing my mom brought up, before even Vicky Cornell did (which is shocking). As soon as the word Ativan was dropped, she said that exact thing.
She used to work as a unit clerk on a psych ward and saw weird shit like that just from bad med combos. Too much, too little, etc.
HKH wrote:Axlin16 wrote:I'll never be able to rectify why Chris bailed on his 3 kids, that is inexcusable to me, like Kurt and Francis Bean (if we don't believe in the murder-theory).
I can totally understand why you feel this way. I used to feel the same. Then, a few years ago, a good friend of mine killed himself. He was married, had three young children and was a respected, successful doctor. He was down-to-earth, witty as shit, modest, thoughtful. One of a kind. Just a very cool dude. He was also a recovering alcoholic. In fact, we met in an outpatient program and got each other through some pretty tough times. There was not a selfish bone in his body and I know he loved his children immensely. I will ever accept that he was only thinking of himself when he took his own life. It just wasn't in his nature.
I think it's important to understand that when people get to the point where they're ready to chose death over life, they are no longer thinking rationally. They no longer have a realistic view of their place in this world. They don't comprehend what they mean to others nor do they realize the tremendous impact their death will have on those who care about them. They have lost all feelings of self-worth. I think, often, they truly feel they are doing their loved ones a favor by relieving them of a burden.
It's hard to understand why any loving parent would chose to leave their children. I get that. I really do. I don't condone suicide nor do I think it's the right choice. I just don't necessarily see it as a selfish act when someone decides it's their only choice.
Agreed. Depression is one fucked up mental illness. The person is in a very bizarre state of mind. Like you mentioned, they think they are a burden on family and friends. They believe killing themselves will remove that burden from their loved ones. Fucked up place for the human mind to go.
Oh, I don't disagree with either of you. I've been in that darker place before. What happens is, no matter how much love is around you, you are in such a dark place you start feeling like your darkness is a black hole that is sucking those you do care for in with you, and you start to negatively affect the people who care for around you.
Then you think, they would be better and happier without you. The last thing you want to do is drag them down with you.
It's a weird, bizarre, fucked up place to be. Regardless of the outcome, I definitely have sympathy for the man himself, in addition to his widow and children.
#28 Re: Guns N' Roses » AFD_30 » 424 weeks ago
Yeah we're definitely getting something. Praise Jesus.....or Axl.
I agree with wagzilla....they're not going to add new GNR and/or current GNR to any old remaster/box set/whatever. There's less than zero reason to do it.
There are several approaches to take with this.
A simple re-release
A remastered bare bones release
A deluxe edition with demos
A box set containing AFD, the demos, and a DVD of some sortOut of those four options, my money would be on option 3. Hardcore fans have heard all those demos for years but the general public has not. They'll gobble it up like Roseanne Barr on a platter of loose meat sandwiches.
I agree with the third option as well, but possibly minus the demos, and plus a bonus DVD.
I just think an 30th Anniversary AFD sells itself. No demos necessary. If you got the big deluxe edition it could feature the original album and its mixed cleaned up, a new 2017 remaster disc, possibly a disc of 2017 re-records mixed with remixes, an audio live show from the era remastered, plus a DVD featuring various live performances of AFD songs from the Not In This Lifetime tour cleaned up in the studio, like anniversary live performances collaged together, rather than a whole show. Throw in some of those Adler guest appearences as well.
It'd sell gangbusters.
To me, all of the old demos should be saved for 2018 and a 30th Anniversary of GN'R Lies. That would allow them to pad the 8-track EP, and turn it into a 20-track deluxe edition with lost demos from that 1987-88 era, live cuts, studio outtakes, etc.
Then people would buy that gangbusters.
And they'd get our money TWICE. They do the demos n' shit with AFD, and most will go after AFD30.
#29 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose with Billy Joel Dodgers Stadium » 424 weeks ago
I agree, and Soundgarden are the best example. The dicking around cost another album with Cornell, when he was just blowing out material solo. Whether that was his or SG's choice or both, who knows.
Same with Guns. I agree, that right now this band is behaving as if it's 1994-95, like a reboot of the last two decades that they were apart. And that's cool to an extent, but the problem is none of them are 20 years younger. No matter what shape they're in. Good news, unlike other bands, and similar to the attitude of Alice In Chains, Guns seem to be very similar to them. Similar amount of legacy members, all in a good place emotionally, enjoy playing with each other, and looking forward to the future.
That's always a good sign, despite age. But there's only so much time. I remember David Coverdale said something similar about Jon Lord dating back to their early-Whitesnake and Deep Purple days. He loved Jon, but they had some falling out, he wanted to incorporate Jon into Whitesnake again, they talked about doing a project together with Glenn Hughes and Richie Blackmore (call the band Stormbringer or something)...
Everyone always had something else to do... then Jon got cancer and eventually died and that was that. Moment, opportunity... lost. Coverdale spoke with deep regret about not pushing harder for that to happen. True regret.
Same could be said about GN'R dicking around. An Axl/DC album sounds fun, but I could not be less enthused about another Slash solo album. Plus Duff and the rest don't have anything to truly do. Let's be honest. One day Steven is gonna die... then someone else... then another.
I guess if Axl & Slash are alive, it could still work with all replacements, but at least do what The Eagles did. At least kick out one double album for one of the "big 'uns" pass away. I'm sure when The Eagles did "Last Road Out of Eden", they didn't know that Glenn would be dead in a few years.
#30 Re: The Garden » Chris Cornell dead » 424 weeks ago
He knows.
I have not watched the whole show yet but apparently he makes comments such as "I feel bad for the people in the next city", "You were here to see it", etc. which shows he already knew he was ending it.
If its mainly due to relapse and not anything terrible currently going on in his life, it makes it even more tragic.
He also kept raving on Detroit and like I said earlier, this city may have had a special meaning to him and this is where he wanted to go out.
His method I find shocking. You'd think a drug user would use drugs as the way out.....or even a gun but he likely didn't have access to guns due to being on tour. Hanging yourself is no guarantee. You can wind up as a vegetable. On the other hand, if you take drugs, you can be saved in the nick of time....which could've happened here as his wife sent someone to check on him.
I'm also wondering if his near constant touring as either solo, SG, or back when he did Audioslave for years on end was his attempt to escape from his own thoughts. When constantly putting on shows, interacting with fans, traveling, etc. could help alleviate your private thoughts.
So does drugs.
This was the very first thing I thought, and also the first thing I mentioned to a friend. Cornell touched many different drugs over the years, and he, along with Layne, were the first to kinda discover the whole OxyContin thing years before it became the drug of choice for Gen Y'ers.
The only thing that makes me think Cornell might've hesitated was if, because he was a lifelong (almost) addict, if he assumed he'd need a shitload of smack to get it done, and bailed on the idea, because, like you said, he wanted to make sure it was good and final.
I also feel this was per-meditated. There are no murder conspiracies here. Kurt, in my opinion, was murdered (of the Seattle guys). Chris, along with Layne's slow suicide, they knew damn well what there end would be, and Chris probably made his mind up years ago, and whatever "bullshit" lately brought him back to that option, an option he had considered before.
Alot of people have missed his last tweet before the Detroit show included #nomorebullshit while going to perform at The Fox in Detroit. Even if his death was close, he was no dreading it, it was a sense of relief, he knew what his plans were.
Then to see the clips of the show, his frankly bizarre behavior (obvious mania going on, especially in the eyes), makes you question whether he was high during the performance, or like Charlie Sheen before him, he was "on a drug called Chris Cornell", and was overtly exciting knowing this was his final performance.
The My Wave intro is even more telling, and weird. The analogy he made about the crossing burning and telling the audience to do whatever they want, but to not fuck with him (and then amend to adding the band), as well as the intro to Mailman, where he made an analogy about writing the song about some guy with a gun spraying a post office, or whatever that was he talked about.
Whatever was going on in his life, he had had enough and knew Detroit would be his end, even though there was a few more dates.
I agree Detroit (or possibly the venue) must hold some significance for him. Remember this was a mid-week Soundgarden-ONLY show, and not the festival dates on the weekends they had been playing. He knew this would be personal, and SG knew they went out of their way to book this specific gig. He knew it was coming and picked this one for a reason. That I agree wholeheartedly.
One also has to wonder if he had been contemplating this for months. He got closure with being able to tour solo, tour with Temple of the Dog, one final Audioslave show, and close out his career with Soundgarden. If not, alot of damn things lined up for him that came full circle for his life and legacy.
I also agree by his recent comments, and the fact it had been going on five years, and they hadn't gotten into a studio yet to record the follow-up to King Animal, yet Cornell was still doing solo stuff as well as guest appearances constantly, was another sign that SG was at a crossroads, and there were no plans Chris' end for future SG music. At least not in whatever current capacity was going on. The band however wanted to record, based on multiple comments made, and something was holding that up.
Not been mentioned yet as its too soon but I'll say it anyways....
Under no circumstances will I support a SG without Cornell. I don't care if its marketed as a tribute to Cornell tour, fuck em if they go that route. I love all the members of Soundgarden but they better not take it in that direction at any point.
edit: I'll support it if its Axlgarden. 16 Kidding aside, I would LOVE for Axl to cover Soundgarden on the upcoming GNR tour. If anyone could do justice to some of those tracks, Axl can but it would have to be Axl on a night playing his A game. Can you imagine Axl singing something like Jesus Christ Pose, Birth Ritual, Superunknown,etc.? 11 Now that I think about it, Axl isn't the problem. The issue would be could GNR musically handle some of the SG stuff?
I completely disagree with you here. It's not fair at all to Kim, one of the most underrated guitarists in his era, and the actual FOUNDER of the band, to pack it up, because Chris couldn't deal with his bullshit and chose to pack it in and leave the building for good.
That's not Kim's fault. Or Ben's. Or Matt's. Granted Matt can always jump to Pearl Jam, but I always hated how SG, with all that talent, sat dormant for years, so Chris could go do what he wanted.
There's no way that band is not feeling tons of mixed emotions right now, especially Kim & Ben, imho. And it is way way way too late in the game for these guys to rebuild that band into something else (think Dead & Co.) in order to keep making music and go on.
Although Cornell was an amazing writer, I would absolutely support, based on Chris' decision to leave the way he did, a Soundgarden without Cornell.
But I do agree, that they'd have to have a singer that matched Cornell's prowess both vocally and lyrically. Axl is a good choice, but Axl's never had the soul to his voice that Chris did.
Chris is irreplaceable. That would be like Zeppelin replacing Plant with Myles Kennedy.
Although I hear Sammy Hagar is available (wink wink, lol)
There's already some talk from some fans about removing Pretty Noose and LIke Suicide from the catalog. Fuck that shit. Cornell never would've wanted that and besides, half the discography is depressing and could potentially come across as a suicide note in hindsight like Staley's Mad Season lyrics.
Don't remove ANY of his work. His discography is perfect as is. Its untouchable among his peers.....so don't touch it.
I agree. This is total fuckin' bullshit. The fuckin' PC, SJW pussies at work again. The first song I thought of today was Pretty Noose. I was going to post it here, 'cause it was all I was listening to. Trying to find some clue, thinking maybe it was a sign years ago of a planned end.
But if you start deleted Cornell's lyrics and songs n' shit, you might as well delete half of SG's catalog. Same with Layne Staley, let's get rid of Mad Season's Above album. Let's delete River of Deceit, while we're at it. Hopefully Jerry Cantrell doesn't off himself, or otherwise we'll have to delete Gone from Degradation Trip.
These guys had the emotion and the balls to do things and take their art to some of the darkest levels in the history of rock, and they lost their lives in different ways. Let's appreciate the ART that sacrifice gave us. A beautiful darkness. Like a great HR Giger painting.