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#4141 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Richard Fortus interview on UG » 911 weeks ago
Axl or GN'R planning a tour next year is far from there actually being one. Especially without a lead guitarist.
#4142 The Garden » How We Fuel Africa's War » 911 weeks ago
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October 30, 2008 "The Independent" -- The deadliest war since Adolf Hitler marched across Europe is starting again – and you are almost certainly carrying a blood-soaked chunk of the slaughter in your pocket. When we glance at the holocaust in Congo, with 5.4 million dead, the clichés of Africa reporting tumble out: this is a "tribal conflict" in "the Heart of Darkness". It isn't. The United Nations investigation found it was a war led by "armies of business" to seize the metals that make our 21st-century society zing and bling. The war in Congo is a war about you.
Every day I think about the people I met in the war zones of eastern Congo when I reported from there. The wards were filled with women who had been gang-raped by the militias and shot in the vagina. The battalions of child soldiers – drugged, dazed 13-year-olds who had been made to kill members of their own families so they couldn't try to escape and go home. But oddly, as I watch the war starting again on CNN, I find myself thinking about a woman I met who had, by Congolese standards, not suffered in extremis.
I was driving back to Goma from a diamond mine one day when my car got a puncture. As I waited for it to be fixed, I stood by the roadside and watched the great trails of women who stagger along every road in eastern Congo, carrying all their belongings on their backs in mighty crippling heaps. I stopped a 27 -year-old woman called Marie-Jean Bisimwa, who had four little children toddling along beside her. She told me she was lucky. Yes, her village had been burned out. Yes, she had lost her husband somewhere in the chaos. Yes, her sister had been raped and gone insane. But she and her kids were alive.
I gave her a lift, and it was only after a few hours of chat along on cratered roads that I noticed there was something strange about Marie-Jean's children. They were slumped forward, their gazes fixed in front of them. They didn't look around, or speak, or smile. "I haven't ever been able to feed them," she said. "Because of the war."
Their brains hadn't developed; they never would now. "Will they get better?" she asked. I left her in a village on the outskirts of Goma, and her kids stumbled after her, expressionless.
There are two stories about how this war began – the official story, and the true story. The official story is that after the Rwandan genocide, the Hutu mass murderers fled across the border into Congo. The Rwandan government chased after them. But it's a lie. How do we know? The Rwandan government didn't go to where the Hutu genocidaires were, at least not at first. They went to where Congo's natural resources were – and began to pillage them. They even told their troops to work with any Hutus they came across. Congo is the richest country in the world for gold, diamonds, coltan, cassiterite, and more. Everybody wanted a slice – so six other countries invaded.
These resources were not being stolen to for use in Africa. They were seized so they could be sold on to us. The more we bought, the more the invaders stole – and slaughtered. The rise of mobile phones caused a surge in deaths, because the coltan they contain is found primarily in Congo. The UN named the international corporations it believed were involved: Anglo-America, Standard Chartered Bank, De Beers and more than 100 others. (They all deny the charges.) But instead of stopping these corporations, our governments demanded that the UN stop criticising them.
There were times when the fighting flagged. In 2003, a peace deal was finally brokered by the UN and the international armies withdrew. Many continued to work via proxy militias – but the carnage waned somewhat. Until now. As with the first war, there is a cover-story, and the truth. A Congolese militia leader called Laurent Nkunda – backed by Rwanda – claims he needs to protect the local Tutsi population from the same Hutu genocidaires who have been hiding out in the jungles of eastern Congo since 1994. That's why he is seizing Congolese military bases and is poised to march on Goma.
It is a lie. François Grignon, Africa Director of the International Crisis Group, tells me the truth: "Nkunda is being funded by Rwandan businessmen so they can retain control of the mines in North Kivu. This is the absolute core of the conflict. What we are seeing now is beneficiaries of the illegal war economy fighting to maintain their right to exploit."
At the moment, Rwandan business interests make a fortune from the mines they illegally seized during the war. The global coltan price has collapsed, so now they focus hungrily on cassiterite, which is used to make tin cans and other consumer disposables. As the war began to wane, they faced losing their control to the elected Congolese government – so they have given it another bloody kick-start.
Yet the debate about Congo in the West – when it exists at all – focuses on our inability to provide a decent bandage, without mentioning that we are causing the wound. It's true the 17,000 UN forces in the country are abysmally failing to protect the civilian population, and urgently need to be super-charged. But it is even more important to stop fuelling the war in the first place by buying blood-soaked natural resources. Nkunda only has enough guns and grenades to take on the Congolese army and the UN because we buy his loot. We need to prosecute the corporations buying them for abetting crimes against humanity, and introduce a global coltan-tax to pay for a substantial peacekeeping force. To get there, we need to build an international system that values the lives of black people more than it values profit.
Somewhere out there – lost in the great global heist of Congo's resources – are Marie-Jean and her children, limping along the road once more, carrying everything they own on their backs. They will probably never use a coltan-filled mobile phone, a cassiterite-smelted can of beans, or a gold necklace – but they may yet die for one.
#4143 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Steven Adler OWNS all new GNR drummers » 911 weeks ago
Like it or not, Adler was the drummer on GN'Rs two defining albums. He was perfect for the original band.
#4144 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why "Scraped" lyrics seem so familiar » 911 weeks ago
Great. Now I'll be thinking about bad hairdos and pink sweaters when I hear CD.
We built this city..We built this city..
#4145 Re: The Garden » I got my girlfriend to model with my car (pics) » 911 weeks ago
Close your eyes kids..

#4146 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash's Solo Album to Feature Ozzy Osbourne » 911 weeks ago
This won't be on the web or anything.
No? Then what are you going to do, look at it with your family? 
Good to see the kids like the album. Must have been playing it a few times then.
#4147 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions: 1st week U.S. sales will be... » 911 weeks ago
The UYI's sold 1 million in 5 hours, and that's from midnight on out.
Makes you think how much the industry has changed.
#4148 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 911 weeks ago
We have skewed waaaaaaaay off topic lol, but while we're on the subject:
http://web.gunsnroses.com/news/article. … &fext=.jsp
Check out that article on the official website belittling the original members.
Of all the press reviews this is the one chosen?
That's ridiculous.
Who's running that site, Fernando?
#4149 Re: The Garden » The Energy Non-Crisis » 911 weeks ago
I'm sure he gets paid for the couple of thousand books he sells. 
You can explain away these things in most cases if you really want. I totally see your points. The problem is there are so many of them. And now with the internet we are finally getting some sense of the scope of it. It's massive. Centuries of hard to find and suppressed research are finally coming into an easily accessible fold.
Just look at it. The central banks are privately owned. That's no "secret" anymore. The board is represented by the most powerful banks in their given district, with New York occupying a senior position over the other eleven districts. How many big banks are left in New York today compared to just 20 years ago? It's basically a boys club running economic policy.
The source behind the martial law threats is now known to have been Hank Paulson. The day after the bill is passed he changes his mind and now they're all very secretive to where the money is really going to go. First they need it to prevent martial law, then they don't need it all? You know where it's going. Same as my country, they are going to save the banks and big firms before the inevitable depression comes to the people.
Who is in Obama's early team?
Sec. of State? Hillary, CFR member.
Vice Pres.? Biden, close CFR associate.
Sec. of Treasury? Geithner, former Federal Reserve Bank of New York Chairman.
Economic advisors? Romer, protege of Rob Rubin, former Sec. Treasury, Citigroup and Goldman Sachs. Just like Paulson. Summers? That's the IMF.
So you see, your government is basically a collection of secret society globalists and bankers. Go check out what they are talking about at those CFR, Trilateral and Bilderberger meetings. Hell, you'll see more of your officials there than in a normal session of Congress. See what they want, what they've been wanting to have. Read a couple of their articles. Then compare it to what actually is. What they're looking to get.
#4150 Re: The Garden » The Energy Non-Crisis » 911 weeks ago
Yeah, predictions are made all the time. Most of them obviously ending up untrue. This is not a prediction, this is not an analysis. It's inside information. The ordinary article doesn't go out and say "I KNOW this will happen". You gotta consider it from his point of view. Why go on an extreme limb such as that? Your basically betting your 30 year career on a long shot. It would be insane to propose something like that back then. Nobody could predict it. So what is this guy, this priest, some financial genius? I doubt it.
Look, I'm not saying you should take this for anything. But if incidents like this doesn't even make you raise an eyebrow I don't know what to tell you. The world is literally flowing over with these coincidences. I've read books from the 50s and 60s that outline the basics of our current situation. Powerful figures, noted politicians, professors. Difference between us and them is that they're smart and they have seen it for themselves. For all of this to mean nothing would require a conspiracy in itself. It's not a conspiracy. It's just some old rich folks doing what they've been raised to do for millenia, controlling us. The people of Rome didn't know. The people of Germany and USSR, they didn't know. North Korea, China, they don't know. For the vast majority of them nothing was, is and will ever be going on, until the liberators come and tell them. Why is this so hard to grasp? To consider? It's commonplace in history.

