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#421 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 210 weeks ago
You should look into the various state, federal and private help you get for a disabled child. I’m talking about fosters. Yes, there are institutions. And I’m not disagreeing, dude, it’s a hard thing. I’m not opposed to abortion.
Abortion ranks at the bottom of voters priorities. Even those who want to keep Roe actually support severely limiting abortion. This is not the game-changing issue you think it is.
I just don't see the sense in making abortion a voting priority especially in swing states. I mean abortion won't help lower gas prices, unemployment etc. It just seems like more tone deafness from the Democrats to me.
And this may be opening up a long ago issue but this could all been avoided if swing state Democrats would have voted for Clinton in 2016 or if Ginsberg stepped down earlier.
#422 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 210 weeks ago
It opens the door for a lawsuit to actually make it settled. It would cause everyone to answer "when does life start" as scientific fact. Neither side really wants to answer that. You cannot say life begins at conception or that a mass of goo is life. You also cannot deny that a fully formed fetus is not a life.
That's probably why I would have left it. That's one question most people don't want to answer. I mean the extremists on both sides probably have their answers ready (and have for some time). But most moderates ?
Also I don't really think most people know what the "answer" is since you can make a case for either side/answer.
#423 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 210 weeks ago
I would have just left it there since it was settled law or whatever it's called. I'm slightly cynical that it'll move anyone in the midterms. I get the feeling that most people's opinions are already decided on it--for the most part you're either against it or for it.
#424 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 210 weeks ago
Presumed Innocent - This was pretty damn good but I didn't like the twist. I think it would've been better had they made Harrison Ford be the one who killed her, the case still gets tossed, and his wife finds evidence at the end.
On the other hand...Ford doesn't play a very convincing bad guy.
Neither does Bonnie Bedelia....
I thought this was too long and I think the book explained it better. I'd point out that Raul Julia is really good as the lawyer who is trying to get the Ford character off.
Pulp Fiction: this one never fails to entertain me, to the point where I wonder why I don't watch it more. On this viewing I discovered that Vincent Vega is kind of an idiot. You can see him falling in love with the Mia Wallace character (or is it the other way around). Gives the entire convo earlier about the foot massages different significance. It's hilarious that her OD'ing on heroin was convienient for him. Even though it's a cameo, Eric Stolz as Lance is funny as hell. How did this not win more Oscars? This is like Samuel Jackson's best performance. So many memorable lines and scenes. There's also a certain storyline continuity that if you pay close attention is kind of cool. The infamous watch was retrieved from a pawn shop in Knoxville,TN. When Marcellus and Butch unfortuantely end up in Zed's shop, there was a picture of TN on the wall.
A Better Tomorrow II--plot is garbage and nearly ruined the film for me. The scenes in NYC are pretty uneccesary and tedious. The only break I'll give John Woo is that the original cut of this was supposed to be 3 hours. Still the end shootout is very good, so are most of the acting performances.
Three Days of the Condor: probably my favorite 70's conspiracy film. I just go back to this one more than say Marathon Man or The Parralax View. It's also very 70s which doesn't hurt. From the music to stuff like the old school buses. A perfect post Watergate film that highlights the distrust that people had in the government. Also it just works as an "innocent man on the run" film. I never realized how great Joubert (the Max Van Sydow character) is. He's DGAF about anything except the money. And he has an admiration and respect for Joe (Redford character) and how unpredictable he is. Gives the last conversation they had a different meaning to me.
Oh on Oldboy, another lasting legacy is that all the modern action films kind of rip off that sequence where Oh-Dae Su goes nuts and dispatches like 8 henchmen with only the hammer. John Wick is basically that (action sequences) + add in some Hong Kong gun play stuff.
#425 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 211 weeks ago
Mitch, if you want to say it took til 75’ to get everyone out, fine. But no one is ever going to say Ford ended the war. It’s always going to go to Nixon who negotiated the peace deal and announced the end of the war.
James and I have gone round and round on Reagan
The worst thing about him, imo, was the influx of Ayn Rand acolytes and Christian conservatives who ended up taking over the party. They were given way too much power because they helped him get elected. This happened again with W, who was nowhere near the leader his old man was. HW Bush got out of Kuwait and refused to invade Iraq. That is one of the greatest decisions ever made by a president.
I'm really not sure why the Vietnam War stuff is that complicated. I have no problem giving Nixon credit for getting us out of that. And again, my issues with him are basically Watergate. I just can't overlook that.
I didn't care for the deficit exploding under Reagan (and most Republican prez) term along with the evangelical stuff. Bush Sr. looks like a genius compared to W and Trump. The economy was bad and rightly and wrongly he got blamed for it. And Clinton was seen as the younger, more energetic candidate (Clinton is a very good, if not one of the best public speakers).
The problem in modern politics is and you mentioned this a few pages ago; the Democrats can't govern effectively and the Republican can't control the looney element. To be fair, I think the Democrats have that issue too but it's not as noticable or huge. I lean left so some of this you'll probably disagree with. The Republicans in power usually end up passing their core type legislation (tax cuts for the rich etc) after that it basically stalls out because either they don't really have anything else they really need to pass OR (more likely) the wingnuts torpedo whatever else they want to do.
Democrats, I agree with socially, but they can't keep their shit in order. And basically they got multiple different people talking about whatever instead of presenting a unified front. Also their messaging sucks ass. And they always seem to have trouble selling something to the American public even if they are on the right side of the argument.
#426 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 211 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:Policy wise Bush senior was good, Clinton was pretty damn good. Trump was excellent.
Obama was bad, Carter was worse, Biden is an absolute dumpster fire
Trump left this country as it was burning to the ground and felt the need to make it worse on Jan. 6th.
Trump was an abysmal failure. All smoke and mirrors.
Yeah, as much as I dislike Bush Jr, he had at least stood for something or had some policy ideas. Trump just went with what the wind blew at that day and total chaos and clusterfuck.
On Nixon, I'll just say that the personal demons overshadow whatever good he did (and they should). I just don't think there's anyway around Watergate with him. You can argue he's underated and I won't disagree with that. But he'll always be amongst the list of worst presidents because of how his presidency ended.
#427 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 211 weeks ago
Hereditary - The first 90 minutes of this film... flawless. It just goes completely off the rails towards the end with a ridiculous climax.
I just love how it nails family dysfunction in the first half. The way they walk on eggshells around the mother and how a black cloud hangs over everything... especially that scene at the dinner table.
When I say the third act is absurd, I don’t mean bad, just… whoa, wtf!!??? Also, it might be the best performance I’ve ever seen from Toni Collette.
Watch it, I’m interested in what your thoughts are on it.
My thoughts are closer to Lofton here. They totally nail how dysfunctional (mainly because of mental illness) this family is. And they do it in a believable way too. There's a lot of distance and emptiness and lying going on this house. Also the house was a character to me.
Agree on Colette nailing the role. I love how you can kind of slowly see her falling apart. It culminates with that dinner scene where she totally loses it and rips into the Peter. At that point, I basically stopped treating her (and Peter) as an objective narrator. I thought most of the scenes she was basically hallucinating stuff. That's what I thought the Heridtary part referred to. That mental illness just ran through that side of the family. It's probably why the Dad is the only one who is normal here.
The ending is weird to me. Because if they wanted to they really, really should have introduced that "aspect" earlier. I would have found the last five mins more convincing. As it is, I was like WTF happened here? It's too bad because the psychological drama aspects of this are great.
On Obsession, I've seen it two or three times and it bores the shit out of me, aside from the ending at the airport. I don't know if it's the subpar acting or a bad script. I just get nothing from it and don't get why some people think it's one of DePalma's best. I'd rather watch Femme Fatale or Passion over obsession.
#428 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 211 weeks ago
Just read about Johnny Rotten, had no idea he became an American citizen, but he was a huge Obama supporter, denounced Trump in 2016 but ended up voting for him in 2020. One of the biggest reasons was the hypocrisy of the left and how blatantly biased the media was. I didn't vote for Trump, but I can identify with this. He swears he'll never vote for a professional politician for President again. This kind of confirms that more people liked the idea of Trump (an outsider) than actually liked Trump. I think there's a real opportunity for a maverick to enter the scene.
But if you're voting just to protest the media, isn't that just a wasted vote? I'm in the middle though. If you're going to vote for an outsider, you have to vote for someone who has some sort of legislative experience otherwise it always backfires.
I’ll disagree, Trump had no idea how to wield his power or influence to pass legislation he believed in because he had absolutely no beliefs that could equal his fragile ego. He was easily manipulated.
There is such a divison in Congress right now it's almost impossible to pass legislation. I mean they took the longest time to pass an infrasturcture bill. Legislation just isn't passed as much these days. Oh, I don't disagree with you on Trump being an empty suit but Congress is just really divided right now and has been for years.
#429 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 211 weeks ago
I love those food scenes in Goodfellas. The "bust out" scenes with the restaurant one of the highlights as well.
Yeah Casino deserves more praise. I like it now a lot more than I did back then. I can't stand Sharon Stone but she hit a home run here.
Yeah, I left out the food scenes they are great. That one scene in the restaurant where he (Scorcese) tracks the characters as they go through there is used all the time now and is very famous.
I love Stone's prime from like 1991-1995. She took chances after she hit it big with Basic Instinct.
I'm going to watch Hereditary. You guys are making it way too interesting. Plus I like Toni Collette anyway.
#430 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 211 weeks ago
What Lies Beneath - Yikes. I barely made it through. It can't decide on whether it's a ghost story or some sort of murder mystery...it tries to be both.
It's also way too long. I am not a big fan of Michelle Pfeiffer and she's forced to carry the film. Harrison Ford is not realistic as a bad guy.
Bound - Great movie. I used to watch this a lot in the 90s. It's the only movie I can stomach Jennifer Tilly.
I'm a fan of Pfeiffer but she can be hit and miss. Agree on Bound. The supporting players are pretty strong too, Joe Pantoliano is great so is pre SVU Chris Merloni. I love how Tilly deceives/lies/manipulates both guys. This is probably the best Wachawhatever Brothers film to me.
Goodfellas--I find this slightly overrated but still fine. For pure Mafia movie, Casino made a few years later is better. For better or worse, Goodfellas is a coming of age story and look at the mafia. I got kind of antsy waiting for the mafia violence parts. Casino also has Vegas as a backdrop and the casinos and how the Mob had control of a major US city which is more interesting to me. Back to Goodfellas, from the part where they do the huge robbery to the end, it's pretty much all aces. Especially, the sequence of the cocaine fueled day. The hilarious and ironic part of the film, Goodfellas assumes stand up/loyal blood brother type of guy, at the end everyone and their mother was either trying to save their own ass or whack anyone who stood in the way. Great soundtrack.
Street Smart--ugh. this one annoyed me despite the cast. I think part of the problem is the plot. It's weird. There are two paths you could go with this: go parody/for laughs or go dark. They chose neither or some middle ground. I ended up nodding off in the middle waiting for some sort of energy from this. Part of this is the cast of the main lead: Christopher Reeves. While Morgan Freeman who plays the pimp Fast Black is excellent (and his performance is wasted), Reeves doesn't really match this intensity and I wondered whether someone else (Mickey Rourke?) would be better in this. Freeman goes from smooth talking to someone who would cut you over $20 and it's totally believable. Oh the ending is a total crock. I think they just wanted a happy ending to send the audience home satisfied.


