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#431 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 269 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:James wrote:I may have to enter one of my periods where I don't check any news. It's raising my blood pressure.
9 months tomorrow for me. Can’t recommend it enough. Television network news has become nothing but outrage generators. Both sides telling you how bad it is and why you should be angry. An information service that profits off how angry it makes you isn’t healthy for any nation.
You’ll be sure to cite the law sources in a long winded bullshit argument shortly won’t you?
Dude, politically you and I reasonably align. It is obvious that I am far far away from Flagg on a lot of shit. So in your long arguments I often agree with where you're coming from.
But why you got to jump in on him like that with these potshots and stir the pot like this? It's petty as fuck. Grow up and stop trying to derail these threads with your bullshit.
#432 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Madagascar » 269 weeks ago
Here ya go: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1b496
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i'd get that saved and backed up ASAP before it gets DMCA'd.
#433 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's optimism in 2002.... » 269 weeks ago
Clearly not a guy who is in a good headspace at that time at all. Got to keep in mind he's got the lawsuit from his ex-wife at this time in the mid 90s with the assault allegations (which based on everything that we've heard and know about him were probably true).
https://apnews.com/article/06f41276c1dc … 849691b418
Outside of band shit, doesn't look like his personal life from 93-96 is going that great either.
Sorum's and Duff's books probably give the most accurate timelines of this period that we have. Duff was clean and clear by 95 and Sorum whilst he was still partying was never as down in a hole as Slash. Their accounts have Slash involved and basically in and out of the band in 96. Shit was still happening at that point. Axl's just off his head in that rant.
#434 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 269 weeks ago
+1 on his mental health appearing better.
For all our criticisms of TB when it comes to the job side of GN'R, if them and their family have helped Axl be in a good place mentally that's only a good thing. From what little we know he had a really fucked up early life so if he's better in that respect then that is nice on a human level.
Agreed on wanting something more to bookend their careers. Even for Slash & Duff - their solo stuff is fine but it's hardly anything that is going to go down in the annals of rock history. One last record as Guns with some good songs on it (even if really old) would be a good bookend for alll of them.
#435 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 269 weeks ago
They both in the US and UK have fucked this up constantly. Too late to bring in restrictions when they fuck up and too eager and rushed in lifting those restrictions. Worst of both worlds shit with this approach. And with each one they erode public trust, because they have a confused public health message.
#436 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 269 weeks ago
Here's the setlist from tonight.
I've removed the dead weight....
1 - "It's So Easy"
2 - "Mr. Brownstone"
3 - "Chinese Democracy"
5 - "Welcome To The Jungle"
6 - "Double Talkin' Jive"
10 - "Live and Let Die" [Paul McCartney & Wings song]
12 - "Rocket Queen"
13 - "You Could Be Mine"
15 - "Civil War"
18 - "Sweet Child O' Mine"
19 - "November Rain"
20 - "Only Women Bleed" [Alice Cooper song]
21 - "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" [Bob Dylan song]
22 - "Nightrain"
23 - "Paradise City"You can add Patience and DC... Hardschool if you're moving forward.
You can have alternates like Estranged, Locomotive, The Garden, Yesterdays, etc.
I watched a stream and the pop for KOHD was big and those there really enjoyed it, us hardcore fans rag on it but it's got to stay. That cursed Greatest Hits CD is what most casual fans expect and want to hear.
They'd be better doing Don't Cry and Patience instead of Estranged, Better and Dead Horse for their casual audience. The casuals like those songs more and it's not like the more hardcore fans appreciate or like hearing those songs anymore either - if keeping those in might as well keep them really rotational with other deep cuts like other CD songs, some stuff off TSI, maybe even something off Live Like A Suicide.
I still hope for something eventually, Slash and Duff wouldn't end up soundchecking and rehearsing an unreleased song to the level of tightness we heard if there wasn't a plan to do something with it. When though? Could be next week, could be in five years.
#437 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 269 weeks ago
Just saw bits of a stream, and Axl sounds as shit as ever. He clearly gives zero fucks at this point
He started strong but once it got to Jungle it's been downhill.
#438 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 269 weeks ago
Most likely they chose this song because it is that song that was meant to go with that Jackie Chan movie in the 90s and it's actually Slash and Duff original
I think so too and I wish they had unveiled it in 2016.
Get it out of the way and let's move on to Oklahoma/Berlin.
Only a few hundred people cared about that last batch of leaks. The media completely ignored it.
If it had anything to do with those leaks(it doesn't), they'd be doing Perhaps or Atlas Shrugged.
I have a theory, and it's a big stretch, that Axl still wants to do his magnum opus trilogy that ultimately began in 95, and he wants it to include redone songs from CD. Would explain the changes to CD, Better and now it appears the massive reworking of Hardschool. He was clearly unhappy with CD, didn't like the album and felt the album was forced out of his hands and overall wasn't what it was supposed to be. Tommy said as much in an interview recently. Now with Slash and Duff he has the clout label wise to put out what he always wanted.
It would go some ways to explaining why they haven't even dropped a simple EP or greatest hits with a new song. That's not the "vision".
... or none of them give a shit 
But it's a fun theory.
#439 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 269 weeks ago
Once they got Duff and Slash back together it went from being Axl's fake GN'R to becoming the Guns N' Roses Industrial Complex.
They went from being a midcard touring outfit to being someone who the head of Live Nation isn't going to leave on read if they contacted them.
That's the difference.
I see fans speculating that they chose Hardschool because of the leaks. We are the 1% of fans at these shows who will have heard them. 10% if I am being generous but I would really doubt that.
Most likely they chose this song because it is that song that was meant to go with that Jackie Chan movie in the 90s and it's actually Slash and Duff original. That could also be the reason it didn't make the album in 08 which was supposed to be Axl's big comeback without the old band - would look shitty to have old band members getting writing credits on that record.
Seen some fans complaining or saying they don't want to hear it if Axl sounds shit. Are you guys insane? We all complain about lack of new music and now some are complaining about this and finding negatives. Even if it doesn't get played for months it is still positive that this band with Slash and Duff are soundchecking a tightly rehearsed new song.
It is a clear sign that despite the woeful lack of communication that something with new music is genuinely happening behind the scenes.
Put it this way: them soundchecking it pre covid cancellation in 2020 and then soundchecking it again for this tour has me convinced that eventually we will get new music from them - before, I was beginning to have doubts. Might not be this year, could be years and years from now with how this band works. But it seems very likely we'll get at least one new album of material from this band before they pack it in.
#440 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 269 weeks ago
If it's becoming a staple in the set list, it's the first sign in five years that something might be on the horizon.
Been saying this repeatedly. Seen some negative fans complaining about the changes or saying they don't want to hear it if Axl sounds bad.
How good this is isn't the point. They could play Silkworms II and it could be the worst thing we've ever heard - would still be a positive.
Like you say, a sign of things actually progressing.
