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#431 Re: Guns N' Roses » If there is a reunion, where do people stand? » 553 weeks ago
Agreed. I thought when DJ was brought in in 2009-10, that Axl might've been taking the next album seriously, and was willing to give in to current music trends. Think new GN'R music that was something like Sixx:AM tracks with Axl on vocals, and at that time there was alot of talk about the next GN'R record being 'self-titled', which lended even more into a possible reboot with DJ.
But when I saw them together, even though ironically the 2009-14 lineup is their longest lasting one, you could almost feel like Axl had quit and the whole thing was a nostalgia act, which James kept on to anyone who would listen -- and he was right.
After awhile, if you're gonna tour as a nostalgia act -- you might as well go get the players who made that music and make a lot more fucking money for the same amount of work.
I still ain't sure we'll see new music still. Axl could just be cashing in before retirement and this literally is nothing more than the 2014 band + Slash - DJ/Ron.
Time will tell
#432 Re: Guns N' Roses » If there is a reunion, where do people stand? » 553 weeks ago
This question was posed in a different era. Pre-DJ Ashba era. The prospect of new material AND touring with Robin/Tommy/Richard was appealing and the animosity between the Axl and Slash camps were at an all time high.
Fast forward 8-10 years and its just a different situation. Replacements of replacements leave the band. I think Axl even stopped pretending to care about releasing new material..
Patching things up with Slash all the sudden was the best choice.
I don't agree exactly. Axl ALWAYS cared about releasing new music. I can't remember who it was here at Evo (might've been Apex), who said from day one Axl met resistence from the label. Axl was ready to put out CD by 2000, 2001 at the latest. The label were the ones who felt it wasn't ready. When they rejected the album, especially in his emotional state at the time, that was a HUGE ego blow. Not to mention Axl had brought in big name producers such as Moby, Youth, Roy Thomas Baker and the legend himself Bob Ezrin, Ezrin of which summed it up as there wasn't much he could do to salvage Chinese, because there were no singles on the album. And there weren't at that time. Better came after the fact. Chinese didn't catch (and never would have), and Street of Dreams would've been a horrible single. The only things that album had that could've been marketed was Better and TWAT. And I stand by that.
Fast-forward to Chinese II in recent years. The label gave Axl NO support on the Chinese release. Every manager he hired tried to double-cross him into a reunion, and the label had pretty much made it clear that they would no release any future GN'R material. Axl also couldn't get live stuff released without Slash's consent, and both of them went back and forth with who would veto the other's live concert DVD/CD.
After awhile Axl just got beat down, and the cross of GN'R/AFD that he thought would be there to protect him, keep him in the band (when Niven tried to constantly get him fired), actually ended up becoming too much of a burden for Axl.
Axl was stuck. He couldn't release material. He couldn't get more than 5,000 people out to a show. And the label was constantly a pain in his ass. After awhile he just gave in, when he was finally ready.
For all we know Axl could've LOVED DJ Ashba's material... means nothing... label would've never released it and never promoted it.
All of this was a stare down at a poker game that Axl lost years ago when Slash left the band. Uni just was waiting to see when Axl finally figured it out and was willing to fold his cards at the table and give his ego away.
#433 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2016 Summer Stadium 'Not In This Lifetime' Tour » 553 weeks ago
Why would he be like Gilby? Gilby didn't write anything with the band.
#Gotcha
#434 Re: Guns N' Roses » Do you want Adler to be with GNR in Vegas, Coachella, Mexico City..... » 553 weeks ago
I will secretly admit... my favorite versions of Mr. Brownstone & YCBM was UYI-era, BECAUSE of Sorum's drumming. I just like his sound on those live.
Beyond that, I think it depends on whether you see GN'R as a Rolling Stones who needs a Charlie Watts on the kit (Adler), or GN'R as a Led Zeppelin who needs a John Bonham on the kit (Sorum).
I think Izzy was right in saying GNR's drummer was always supposed to have a groovy feel back there. Maybe not funky, but a more rhythm thing that only guys like Adler & Ferrer can do. Sorum & Mantia can't and don't do that.
#435 Re: Guns N' Roses » If there is a reunion, where do people stand? » 553 weeks ago
Running out of "I told 'ya so's I see"
#436 Re: Guns N' Roses » Do you want Adler to be with GNR in Vegas, Coachella, Mexico City..... » 553 weeks ago
Adler is a drug addict and unreliable
Sorum is a drum machine who's sound was never quite GN'R
Brain (see Sorum)
Frank is the best of the bunch. No baggage, no bullshit, talented guy, has enough prowess to pull of the UYI & CD tracks, but has a groove that hasn't been there since Adler.
Drummer was always a disposable position in GN'R. Frank seems to be the best package for alot of reasons.
I don't feel Adler is the uber-God fans make out. I think GN'R could've just as easily had Fred Coury from Cinderella or Steve Riley from LA Guns on the drum kit for the recording of AFD... and guess what? It'd still be A fucking F fucking D.
Axl Rose, Slash, Izzy Stradlin & Duff McKagan were the one-of-a-kind ingredients that made Guns N' Roses -- Guns N' Fucking Roses
With all due love and respect Steven
#437 Re: Guns N' Roses » Secret show: April 1, L.A.? » 553 weeks ago
I don't think MIA was "turrible". I think she was rather inventive and DIFFERENT for pop. But she's not a rock act, and was never destined for stadium superstardom. Her act wasn't universal enough. I was utterly stunned when she was included with Madonna at the Super Bowl, and even when she was there 9 out of 10 people the next day asked "who was the Mexican bitch that flipped off the crowd?"
There's a reason she's not trending anymore.
#438 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2016 Summer Stadium 'Not In This Lifetime' Tour » 553 weeks ago
fortus is a badass, but for GNR, he needs to just be Gilby...
Depends on the scenario. I can't see Richard writing a solo, and Slash taking it from him. Slash isn't that kind of guy.
My guess in-studio is it'll be like UYI, but take more work off Slash's shoulders. Slash does lead and Richard does rhythm, and that's it. Whereas Slash used to do a rhythm back in the day to combine with Izzy's.
Richard is too talented to really need to do that. It keeps the band tighter, and everybody has their place. Axl = vocals, Slash = lead, Richard = rhythm, Duff = bass, Frank = drums, Dizzy = keys
Bing bang boom, that's a rock band that can do it all.
#439 Re: Guns N' Roses » HOLY SHIT!! Get in this thread! » 553 weeks ago
That and I think the band themselves were fine with just having Izzy be a special guest. No commitments, no pressure. Izzy felt he was owed a 1/4 cut, probably because of what he originally wrote, and they probably felt "that was then, this is now" and had more of a "what have you done for me lately attitude"
Forget Axl. Let's not forget Izzy has bailed on Slash and Duff on multiple projects that he was supposed to write material with them and never did.
#440 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 553 weeks ago
How the hell are they still getting attendance like that when the ratings are so terrible?
As for Punk, I think his pride will send him into the octagon no matter what, even if he knows he'll get a vicious beat down.
I want him to fight Rousey. He'd win. Somebody to shut her the fuck up. I'm sick of her.
To quote a wise man...
"You are a stupid mother fucker! You just got the shit kicked out of you, and you keep asking for more?!?!"
