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#431 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 212 weeks ago

Triangle: slasher/time travel film.I found it pretty fun just to watch how the main character was going to get out of the loop.  I'm not sure about the ending since there are a lot of meanings/interpretations of it.  Retroactive a 1997 is sort of similar to this.  But Triangle takes place on a boat which makes it interesting.

Network--the last time I saw this was in the early 2000s.  And it's more relevant NOW than it was back then.  Basically, online/the internet could be substituted for Television.  I had no idea how funny this film is, especially Faye Dunaway's Diane character.  Oh, it basically predicted/forecasted the mergers and the harmful intersection of business/big money and the news, which is still felt to this day.  And the rise of live shot/homemade footage would become popular.  As well as glamourizing crimminals/questionable people and making celebs out of them.  Oh one of the best parts (and best acted) of the film is near the end where Max (William Holden) just tells Diane how hollow, shallow and a sad person that she is.  I totally glossed over this the last time I saw this. Faye Dunaway had a great prime from like late 60s-late 70s.  Apparently, the wreck that was Mommie Dearest torpedoed her career along with the fact that she was extremely difficult to deal with.

Trapped--kidnapping film with Kevin Bacon and Charlize Theron, Stuart Townsend, and Courtney Love.  It's pretty good.  Not great or a classic.  Just watchable especially if you turn your brain off.  It was going well 2/3 of the way, then the last 30 mins went off the rails plot wise.  Shoot outs and ridiculous over the top stuff.  There's one key plot that is revealed that gets totally lost and thrown away in favor of the car crashes and etc.  I turned off my brain at that point and just enjoyed the stupidity. 

V  for Vendetta-I saw this in the theater  in 2006 or 2007.  I think it holds up pretty well.  I found the middle slightly long.  They could have probably edited out.  Also I'm not sure whether or not the point where they stage Evie's abduction and captivity is neccesary.  This is basically a modern version of 1984.  There are some nice touches like the jukebox, film posters, watching old fims, in the place where V lives.  And really at this point, I'm not sure it's that far fetched that a nation would kill it's own citizens on purpose to gain power.  Still I really enjoyed the beginning and end of this film.

#432 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 213 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Thief is sooooooooooo good. I really wish they could have used that character in HEAT.

I really love Manhunter, too. To Live and Die in LA was a great 80s film. William Petersen ended up turning down Goodfellas, Platoon and Tom Sizemore's role in HEAT. Yikes!

There's a film called Fear City with Tom Berenger and Melanie Griffith about a serial killer murdering strippers in seedy, Taxi Driver era NY. Great 80s film. It might be the greatest sexploitation, B-movie I've ever seen. Abel Ferrera is the Scorsese of B films.

Frank in Thief is James Caan's best performance.  You totally buy him as this tough East Coast guy trying to quit and live the American Dream that he has built for himself.  The sad thing is he can't escape the criminal life or the past (the scene with the baby adoption worker).

This might be sacrilege but I enjoy To Live and Die in LA more than The French Connection.  It's just more fun for me to watch.  Dafoe is great as Rick Masters as well.  Yikes, indeed, probably as bad as Costner turning down all those roles.

I've seen Fear City and it's hilarious.  And yes, I love seeing pre-cleaned/up sanitized NYC.  Couple other Abel Ferrara's suggestions:  Ms.  45 but it's got that 70s grit.  The storyline is a little unique.  King of New York, probably Ferrara's most mainstream film.  Features a great cast and some fine performances from Christopher Walken and Laurence Fishburne.

#433 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 213 weeks ago

James wrote:

I think a major problem with Scarface is it comes off a tad cheesy...the over the top accent, the level of violence, and just the way it's filmed. Even though the 80s are just kicking off when this is released, it has that 80s feel to it...which is a huge contrast to this type of film in the 70s.

I've talked about this before....the realism of 70s film which gets brushed aside for the glossy, over the top feel of the1980s. No aspect of pop culture avoided this in that decade.

Go watch an episode of Maude or Streets of San Francisco and then watch something like The Facts of Life or Matlock.

Yeah that incest subplot is bat shit....


Funny you should mention the cheese/over the top factor of Scarface. I remember the scenes where they are in the club and that annoying cheesy 80's anthem Push it to the Limit starts playing.

I think some of the really early 80s films (maybe 80 and 81) avoid this cheesiness and still retain part of the grit/realism of the 70s.  Blow Out from DePalma was released in 1981 and still has that ambivalent shades of gray/ feel.  Ditto Thief from Mann in 1981.

#434 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 213 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

So how did this dude get 81 million votes again?

Oh that’s easy….Donald Trumps behavior was revolting.

In my opinion he’s a great symbol of everything that’s wrong with this country. Someone with no real talent or skill at the top of the mountain.

A man who pays no taxes but allegedly is a brilliant business man. A man who hate socialism but uses the IRS and the tax code like a piggy bank.

You left out the part where he told his supporters not to vote (the mail in ballot stuff) which was one of dumbest things he's done.

I just don't get why the entire trans issue is a political issue.  It just seems trivial when compared to other pressing political issues facing this country.  How did we ever get to this where (maybe) social issues got turned into a politcal football anyway?  Both sides do this too so it's not like you can single out one party.

#435 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 213 weeks ago

Scarface (1983).  There was nothing wrong with this movie but I came away kind of with an eh? reaction.  It's well acted and there are some great set pieces.  So why does this not move me or engage me like Carlito's Way (another Pacino/DePalma collaboration and gangster film) or the Godfather (another 3hr epic from Pacino)?  Pacino is great and gives it his all into the character.  I just don't know why I didn't connect with this on an emotional level.  Oh the fixation that Tony had on his sister Gina was disgusting bordering on incestous.  This is one of those films that's well made but I have no desire to watch for another few years.

Hell up in Harlem--fun blaxplotation film from 1973.  It's obvious this was made with a lesser budget but it didn't bother me.  I had fun seeing the different shot/angles that came from some of the scenes from this film.  It's over the top but that's the fun of watching some of these films.  Pretty good soundtrack too from Edwin Starr.

#436 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 214 weeks ago

James wrote:

The internet wasn't designed to be the corporate, dystopic wasteland it became.

Would the "wild west" vibe of the 1990s internet have continued indefinitely? No...but had it not been intentionally steered into this direction, it would be an entirely different beast.

The internet used to offer near infinite choices....blogs, bulletin boards, general websites, chat rooms, etc. It barely had any ads.

It's been consolidated into a few massive platforms where the users are being socially engineered, farmed for data, and bombarded with ads.


It needed some form of regulation years ago.



The mainstreaming of social media is what ruined it... along with smartphones. This allowed it to take over people's lives. It turned a huge percentage of the population to become dopamine addicts feeding on outrage and the level of manipulation is unprecedented.

We also now live in a world where kids no longer wish to be doctors, astronauts, scientists, and lawyers when they grow up....

They want to be YouTubers and "influencers".


Social media never should've evolved beyond this point.

Having said that... Myspace probably would have become a monster as well had smartphones fueled its rise instead of its user base being on desktop/laptop computers.



I remember reading years ago that almost half of Twitter's users are bots...and Twitter knows this. They don't remove them because it would wipe out a huge portion of its site and this would impact the stock price.

All of these platforms need an overhaul.

I agree with all of this.  Social media is pretty much a waste at this point for me outside of news (from solid sources and occasional analysis of that).  I mean you basically need to weed out all the bs'ers and people who have no clue what the fuck they are talking about. 

Funny you should mention the 90s, I was watching a little of Mission Impossible (1996 one) and Cruise's character is on the internet using/searching for a usenet newsgroup for info.  And I was wondering how the fuck did we go from that to this?

Mentioning youtube, my nephews watch that stuff a lot.  And do you know what they watch?  Not anything informative or that type of stuff but youtube videos of people PLAYING video games.  Sigh.   As far as infleuncers go,  they had an episode of Law and Order where the older cops (around our age) who had a WTF look when interviewing 2 "infleuncers" that were involved in a case.  That's my reaction.  I have no idea what that is nor will ever.


The last point is key, these guys in charge of these media outlets are making way too much money to care.  They know that their outlets are harmful and just dumping false info or just allowing people to voice this stuff (this is nonpartisan issue to me) and still they do nothing because they are rolling in dough.  It's become a business now and they only do shit when there's really bad optics or some sort of scandal that is unavoidable.

#437 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 214 weeks ago

James wrote:

The Brave One - A Jodi Foster movie I didn't know existed until last night. It got shitty reviews but I was intrigued.

It's Death Wish for women. I started getting into the story but it gets more ridiculous as it goes on. The ending completely ruins it. It also feels tacked on at the last minute.

Her and Terrence Howard had great chemistry. You get invested into their budding relationship (which never happens) and how he's piecing it all together. That climax spits in the face of all of it. I don't know what the hell they were thinking.

I think one of the mistakes was having her go after the guys who assaulted her and murdered her fiance....and going after the guy Terrance was investigating. The story was better when her attacks were more random. I liked the psychological layers of the story with her recording her crimes and listening to them in the aftermath....and how she was toying with Terrance.

Deja Vu - I hadn't watched this since seeing it in the theater 15 years ago. I remember being blown away by this and falling in love with Paula Patton.

It's not as good as I remembered it. It gets a little too outlandish and that ending is garbage.


I saw the Brave One years ago at a dollar theater and just remember it being one of those "shut off your brain" movies.  Maybe I should revisit this one.

On Deja Vu, I watched it during my pandemic movie binges and remember liking Patton's character most of all.  Watched it for Val Kilmer mostly (this was before he got super fat).  And I agree about the ending.  It's one of those time travel things where it just gets totally confusing to me (also have the same issue with Looper).  I kinda liked the setting in New Orleans though, that one is always a fun city for movie settings.  I remember liking the dramatic elements (again due to Patton) more than the time travel stuff.

#438 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 215 weeks ago

James wrote:

I need to rewatch the Godfather trilogy. It's overdue... especially the third one.

Around 20 years ago on the cable channel AMC or Bravo they showed a version of both I and II unedited as a single film and in chronological order. It was amazing seeing it in that format.

Good point on observing different things in films during rewatches as you get older.  One thing I noticed more on my last watch of the first a few years ago is Carlo's betrayal of the family leading to his murder. It's sorta going on in the background with all the other craziness transpiring. Then it hits you like a ton of bricks when Sonny is killed.

What an amazing film. Too bad nothing remotely up to this standard will be made again.


I'm pretty certain it was AMC.  I remember this sort of.  I also remember they ran the unedited film, then showed Godfather + Godfather II seperately.  Because I remember taping I and II on a VHS tapes.  Oh fuck, I probably should have tape the unedit film as well.

Oh definitely,  the entire sequence sets the 2nd half of the film in motion.   And yeah even though you know it's coming (Sonny's death) it still hits you.  It's totally consistent with Sonny's character and flaws.

#439 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 215 weeks ago

It turned 50 so I had to rewatch it.  Yeah, I'm talking about the Godfather.  Having seen this a few times, you end up watching and trying to pick up stuff on stuff you missed or never noticed.  Like in the famous "leave the gun get the canoli" scene, it's set up like outside a field of wheat and grain and in the back you can see the Statue of Liberty.  It's kind of a metaphor for the American dream that even these gangsters seemed to have achieved.  Or at the end of film , there's a clear callback to a central scene that has happened earlier.  In essence, though this is a film about fathers and sons and the dynamic within that. 

Also finally watched Brick (2005).  Weird that is taken me so long to watch this.  It's rather clever and I really liked it.  Interesting to see high school students act like those characters from film/neo-noir of yesteryear.  And it works.

#440 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 216 weeks ago

James wrote:

Winona... immediately presented as the one with her shit together, gets fired from her job as a glorified intern due to self sabotage. What does she do next? Lays around the house feeling sorry for herself, running up $500 psychic line phone bills, and uses her dad's gas card to make quick cash. The little ambition she has(the "documentary") is tied up with the shallow relationship with Stiller and this too gets sabotaged.



While it's a good movie, I agree with the negative reviews saying that the film doesn't go far enough with the message it's trying to send. It's all surface level. A good time to dive into how they're wasting their lives is the argument between Stiller and Hawke at the apartment while Winona is standing there. Instead it is more played for laughs.


I totally forgot how the Winona character went totally downhill after she lost her job.  IIRC she was rather immature about how she got fired.  It was just really stupid and like self sabotage as you say.  Basically after that she becomes a slacker and a double of the Ethan Hawke character.

You're actually correct about the major flaw with the film.  It should be a debate about how 90s post college ideals, dreams, and life philosphies (or whatever) comes smack dab into the realities of life.  It's a great film title, I might point out, nice play on words.  Anyway, you might have these ideals but those don't usually pay the bills.  And sometimes you have to delay your goals (like Lainey becoming a director for documentaries) for a bit otherwise you end up stuck like the Hawke character.  The ending of this is like something out of a romantic comedy except that I have no idea how it got "to that point" and it's not really consistent with the reality of what we have shown in the film.  I don't want to sound like I'm trashing this too much since I do love that it captures the vibe/feel of the 90s perfectly.


Straight Time (1979)  Someone criticized Hoffman's films a few pages back.  He's fine here as a career criminal trying to go straight and failing at it.  He does attempt to re-enter society but it just doesn't work for him for a variety of reasons.  So he predicatably goes back to the life he knows.  I don't think I would have liked this as much if Theresa Russell (aka the MILF in Wild Things) wasn't as good in her role as the girlfriend.   I'd say more but I don't want to spoil it.

Basic Instinct (1991) .  This one is a fav and maybe a guilty pleasure.  For a good while there Michael Douglas could do no wrong. I gotta admit though I love late 80s-early 90s Sharon Stone.  From stuff like Action Jackson, Total Recall, The Quick and the Dead to Casino and this film, she did a lot of stuff that I loved.  And she basically owns this film from the way she basically manipulates Nick(Douglas character) from start to finish.  He thinks he is in control but he's really not.  The character becomes somewhat obsessive and psychotic in the second half of the film.  I totally forgot how funny this film is too.  The cops are like cracking jokes at the first crime scene.  I still think the film is a bit long and wouldn't cut out some parts of the middle.

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