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#441 Re: Guns N' Roses » Vince Neil: "Axl Rose Let His Fans Down" » 873 weeks ago

Monkey.  I kinda get what you're saying.  But see, when you're in a band such as GNR.  Your fans will ask new music from you.  Wether they are owed new music or not is a whole other debate which I so do not wanna get into.  And granted Axl works in ultra slow motion.  So much that had we not had the leaks last year, Axl would probably still be holding his ace called CD.  And I agree that it almost seem like you only see this with GNR fans that people hoard some songs like it was their richness.  And I never got that.  If I had GNR or any other band's rare tracks, I'm of the thinking I'd wanna share them and discuss that.  Then again maybe I ain't normal.  Would new tracks bring excitement.  Perhaps.  If Axl decided to release the material he has I have said I'd buy it.  But I doubt you'd get a huge buzz this time around.  Maybe with the fanbase on the boards but that would be it.  Axl seems to have really outplay his mystery card.  I could be wrong though.  One thing seems obvious though.  Is that this silent era is not ending anytime soon.

#442 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Begins Recording for his Solo Album » 873 weeks ago

faldor wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

In other words, Slash never listened to his music. Or probably downloaded Monsters and Robots and assumed all his trillion albums were the same.

Yeah he was real sketchy with his answer.  He was asked about what he thought of Bucket and he said he never heard him play.  Then a minute later his story changed and said he heard some of his stuff and he was a good technical player but didn't play with any emotion.

So yeah, I doubt he really listened, or else didn't give him a fair chance because of his affiliation with his former band.

Slash changed his story a minute later?!  That's a first.*lol*  Will start his biography this weekend.  Should be a blast to read.  Can't wait.

#443 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Positive CD Thread » 873 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Say what you want about the insanity, but there's nothing like getting to hear a new GNR song, regardless of who is playing on it. Doesn't matter if the song is good or it sucks, just that feeling you have as you're just about to hear it for the first time is amazing. Felt that way in the UYI era, and felt that way during the CD leaks.

I obviously can't relate to what it was like in the UYI period. I remember getting into the band through radio and the greatest hits CD. Then coming on the forums and reading about the UYI albums, I'd heard of AFD before but these sounded more interesting. I wanted to hear Locomotive and Estranged and I wanted to hear what was so bad about this closing track My World. I went out and bought them and was captivated (and now looking back am embarrsed to say I initially liked Shotgun Blues and Get In The Ring). Shortly after all that we got the leaks and I think I definitely get that weird feeling excitement you mention. When the ones in 2006 came out it wasn't maybe as exciting as I was still new to GNR but when we got those tracks in 07 with the studio versions I was captivated. The best "Listening to new guns n roses songs" experience I've had was those 2008 Skwerl leaks. It wasn't just studio versions of tracks we'd heard live and it wasn't 2006 when I knew very little about the band. I'd become a diehard follower and getting to hear what may have been the golden track Prostitute (which for me didn't dissapoint) and what Rhiad was meant to sound like. It was great. The best part of getting new GNR song is the moment before you press play. Especially now with "Nu-GNR", you have absolutely no idea what to expect.

Don't feel bad for liking Shotgun Blues and or get in the ring.  While not their best tracks they are not half as bad as people make them out to be.  *lol*  Locomotive.  Another song I wish Axl would play if he ever tours again.

#444 Re: Guns N' Roses » Vince Neil: "Axl Rose Let His Fans Down" » 873 weeks ago

faldor like Neemo said.  Before the illusions record got out GNR played tons of illusion songs in concert.  That was back when Axl had guts and GNR was a "dangerous band".  Although to Axl's defense they played down on the farm in their 06 tour.  And Monkeychow.  You're misunderstanding me.  I ain't complaining that CD came out far from that.  But what I'm saying was before last year when we were in silent era's, fans had CD to look forward too.  But now that ace was played.  I'm just saying Axl has no cards left.  Like madagas said he has other songs in the vault.  Only question is, does Axl has the guts to get those out or does he want them out at all.  That is far from a sure shot.  So that is why this silent era is creating more negativity.  There is nothing or almost nothing to look forward to.  You can blame me all you want I don't care.  But my name isn't W. Axl Rose.

#445 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Positive CD Thread » 873 weeks ago

downliner wrote:

The chinese whispers opening the album kick ass, sets up the stuttering opening riff perfectly. Reminds me of the chills I got the very first time I watched the RIR3 gig and they opened in a familiar sense on WTTJ, that delayed hook before bursting into the song and the crowd erupting. Anything that reminds me of how awesome the Rio show was is always welcome in my book 9

Also love Tommys work on Riad, but who here doesn't? tongue

If they ever chose another show opener should be CD.  When I saw them in 06.  They opened the encore with CD.  The video montage and all was pretty cool.  One of the highlights of the night as far as I'm concerned.

#446 Re: Guns N' Roses » Vince Neil: "Axl Rose Let His Fans Down" » 873 weeks ago

Olorin wrote:

Just stay home then, spare yourself the agony. I'll go and see them no matter what they play, but I'm really hoping for CD in its entirety.

I hope he does play the whole album.  But again Axl doesn't have the guts plus he's stuck in 1987.  But seeing GNR play the whole album would be about the only way to make a new tour semi interesting.  And again I hope he does it but I will be extremely surprised if he does.

#447 Re: Guns N' Roses » Vince Neil: "Axl Rose Let His Fans Down" » 873 weeks ago

madagas wrote:
gnfnraxl wrote:
Handsome B. Wonderful wrote:

Well, I guess it depends on how you see it.

I think that we're just getting more and more desperate.

Things change, that's the course of life - but I see this as nothing but a continued cycle that's been going on for years.

People always predict the end of Guns N' Roses and/or its fanbase until they suddenly pop up out of nowhere while giving people high hopes about good things coming ahead.

Then plans go bust, people get frustrated and angry about the situation, some pray for a reunion and hates down on the current people in the band, most notably the lead singer, certain individuals scream for Slash or Buckethead while some defend the situation and the people it involves and at the same time not forgetting to preach about the almighty power that is Axl Rose...

Eventually things will calm down and someday the record starts all over yet again.

If anything will ever change, it'll be for the better.

And that's what I always have been, and always will be, hoping for. Especially for a certain human's sake.

I am not predicting the end of GNR's fanbase I am seeing it.  Just stating what's happening.  Like Axlin said.  CD was his last ace and he fucked it up.  When he came on the boards to talk to fans I thought at first that things would change but it hasn't.  Before when we had silent eras fans would take it cause they were still hoping for the big prize.  Now they have that prize.  So really why should the fans take this bullshit again?  What reason do fans have?  Don't tell me more music.  He played that card.  Tours?  Played that card to death too.  Seriously why are people surprised there was no tour.  CD tour was done multiple times already.  And that is why fans are turning on Axl.  Cause basically he has nothing more to offer.

He certainly does have something more to offer. He is an artist who is in control of unreleased songs. He can offer those, and I would like to hear them. He can go on tour with the new band or try to reunite the old band...that is something to offer. Now, we know he may not do any of those, but I still hold out hope that he will....that is why I continue to come here. If you aren't interested in any of those things and you don't think he will do any of them, then why even post in this section? If it is just to vent your frustrations, then I would hope you have better things to do than worry about a 46 year old rich as shit rockstar.

I should have said nothing interesting to offer.  He can go on tour.  True.  But who fucking cares?  We saw the CD tour time and time again.  Do you really think Axl will play different songs from CD just cause it's released now?  He ain't got the guts anymore.  If this was 1991 I'd say different but now.  When I saw them in 06 they played 5 songs from CD which is standard.  So a CD tour is boring at this point.  A reunion.  Hey I used to be one who believed it would happen.  Now.  Not so much.  And while it would be fun at first it would fizzle real fast cause you'd know it would be for a tour and that would be it.  Again if they won't record it loses some of it's lustre.  Unreleased songs?  When he dangled a carrot to us that was called CD it was interesting cause we all wanted to hear what he came up with.  Again he lost that.  We all know what he came up with.  And in alot of ways failed to deliver on promises made by the likes Fortus, Stinson and Dizzy.  Cd was a good effort but still a little disapointing.  And now the element of surprise is gone from the possible new music he has.  I could be wrong but I think that in CD he gave us the best he had.  Which does not bode well for the unreleased material.  Would I buy it if he released it?  Yeah.  Am I gonna wait like before for Axl to dangle this carrot?  Nope!  And I think less and less people will.  So again Axl has NOTHING INTERESTING to offer.  He fucked up one time too many.  And it is sad to witness cause I wanted him to succeed.

#448 Re: Guns N' Roses » Vince Neil: "Axl Rose Let His Fans Down" » 873 weeks ago

Handsome B. Wonderful wrote:

Well, I guess it depends on how you see it.

I think that we're just getting more and more desperate.

Things change, that's the course of life - but I see this as nothing but a continued cycle that's been going on for years.

People always predict the end of Guns N' Roses and/or its fanbase until they suddenly pop up out of nowhere while giving people high hopes about good things coming ahead.

Then plans go bust, people get frustrated and angry about the situation, some pray for a reunion and hates down on the current people in the band, most notably the lead singer, certain individuals scream for Slash or Buckethead while some defend the situation and the people it involves and at the same time not forgetting to preach about the almighty power that is Axl Rose...

Eventually things will calm down and someday the record starts all over yet again.

If anything will ever change, it'll be for the better.

And that's what I always have been, and always will be, hoping for. Especially for a certain human's sake.

I am not predicting the end of GNR's fanbase I am seeing it.  Just stating what's happening.  Like Axlin said.  CD was his last ace and he fucked it up.  When he came on the boards to talk to fans I thought at first that things would change but it hasn't.  Before when we had silent eras fans would take it cause they were still hoping for the big prize.  Now they have that prize.  So really why should the fans take this bullshit again?  What reason do fans have?  Don't tell me more music.  He played that card.  Tours?  Played that card to death too.  Seriously why are people surprised there was no tour.  CD tour was done multiple times already.  And that is why fans are turning on Axl.  Cause basically he has nothing more to offer.

#449 Re: Guns N' Roses » Fernando's link to leaks? And the craziness that is gnr » 873 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:
Fat-Drunk wrote:

I see that "Fernando" is our newest user.

Anyone care to verify his location/ip?

no

*lol*  That reply left no room for interpretation.  *lol*

#450 Re: Guns N' Roses » Vince Neil: "Axl Rose Let His Fans Down" » 873 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

You think?

Doesn't look good my friend.  Or at least the remaining fanbase lost interest.

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