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#451 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 237 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Policy wise Bush senior was good, Clinton was pretty damn good. Trump was excellent.

Obama was bad, Carter was worse, Biden is an absolute dumpster fire

Trump left this country as it was burning to the ground and felt the need to make it worse on Jan. 6th.

Trump was an abysmal failure. All smoke and mirrors.

Yeah, as much as I dislike Bush Jr, he had at least stood for something or had some policy ideas.  Trump just went with what the wind blew at that day and total chaos and clusterfuck. 

On Nixon, I'll just say that the personal demons overshadow whatever good he did (and they should).  I just don't think there's anyway around Watergate with him.  You can argue he's underated and I won't disagree with that.  But he'll always be amongst the list of worst presidents because of how his presidency ended.

#452 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 237 weeks ago

James wrote:

Hereditary - The first 90 minutes of this film... flawless. It just goes completely off the rails towards the end with a ridiculous climax.

I just love how it nails family dysfunction in the first half. The way they walk on eggshells around the mother and how a black cloud hangs over everything... especially that scene at the dinner table.

misterID wrote:

When I say the third act is absurd, I don’t mean bad, just… whoa, wtf!!??? Also, it might be the best performance I’ve ever seen from Toni Collette.

Watch it, I’m interested in what your thoughts are on it.

My thoughts are closer to Lofton here.  They totally nail how dysfunctional (mainly because of mental illness) this family is.  And they do it in a believable way too.  There's a lot of distance and emptiness and lying going on this house.  Also the house was a character to me.

Agree on Colette nailing the role.  I love how you can kind of slowly see her falling apart.  It culminates with that dinner scene where she totally loses it and rips into the Peter.  At that point, I basically stopped treating her (and Peter) as an objective narrator.  I thought most of the scenes she was basically hallucinating stuff.  That's what I thought the Heridtary part referred to.  That mental illness just ran through that side of the family.  It's probably why the Dad is the only one who is normal here. 

The ending is weird to me.  Because if they wanted to they really, really should have introduced that "aspect" earlier.  I would have found the last five mins more convincing.  As it is, I was like WTF happened here?  It's too bad because the psychological drama aspects of this are great.

On Obsession, I've seen it two or three times and it bores the shit out of me, aside from the ending at the airport. I don't know if it's the subpar acting or a bad script.  I just get nothing from it and don't get why some people think it's one of DePalma's best.  I'd rather watch Femme Fatale or Passion over obsession.

#453 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 237 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Just read about Johnny Rotten, had no idea he became an American citizen, but he was a huge Obama supporter, denounced Trump in 2016 but ended up voting for him in 2020. One of the biggest reasons was the hypocrisy of the left and how blatantly biased the media was. I didn't vote for Trump, but I can identify with this. He swears he'll never vote for a professional politician for President again. This kind of confirms that more people liked the idea of Trump (an outsider) than actually liked Trump. I think there's a real opportunity for a maverick to enter the scene.

But if you're voting just to protest the media, isn't that just a wasted vote? I'm in the middle though.  If you're going to vote for an outsider, you have to vote for someone who has some sort of legislative experience otherwise it always backfires.

misterID wrote:

I’ll disagree, Trump had no idea how to wield his power or influence to pass legislation he believed in because he had absolutely no beliefs that could equal his fragile ego. He was easily manipulated.

There is such a divison in Congress right now it's almost impossible to pass legislation. I mean they took the longest time to pass an infrasturcture bill.  Legislation just isn't passed as much these days.  Oh, I don't disagree with you on Trump being an empty suit but Congress is just really divided right now and has been for years.

#454 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 237 weeks ago

James wrote:

I love those food scenes in Goodfellas. The "bust out" scenes with the restaurant one of the highlights as well.

Yeah Casino deserves more praise. I like it now a lot more than I did back then. I can't stand Sharon Stone but she hit a home run here.

Yeah, I left out the food scenes they are great.  That one scene in the restaurant where he (Scorcese) tracks the characters as they go through there is used all the time now and is very famous.

I love Stone's prime from like 1991-1995.  She took chances after she hit it big with Basic Instinct.

I'm going to watch Hereditary.  You guys are making it way too interesting.  Plus I like Toni Collette anyway.

#455 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 237 weeks ago

James wrote:

What Lies Beneath - Yikes. I barely made it through. It can't decide on whether it's a ghost story or some sort of murder mystery...it tries to be both.

It's also way too long. I am not a big fan of Michelle Pfeiffer and she's forced to carry the film. Harrison Ford is not realistic as a bad guy.


Bound - Great movie. I used to watch this a lot in the 90s. It's the only movie I can stomach Jennifer Tilly.

I'm a fan of Pfeiffer but she can be hit and miss.  Agree on Bound.  The supporting players are pretty strong too, Joe Pantoliano is great so is pre SVU Chris Merloni.  I love how Tilly deceives/lies/manipulates both guys.  This is probably the best Wachawhatever Brothers film to me.

Goodfellas--I find this slightly overrated but still fine.  For pure Mafia movie, Casino made a few years later is better.  For better or worse, Goodfellas is a coming of age story and look at the mafia.  I got kind of antsy waiting for the mafia violence parts.   Casino also has Vegas as a backdrop and the casinos and how the Mob had control of a major US city which is more interesting to me.  Back to Goodfellas, from the part where they do the huge robbery to the end, it's pretty much all aces.  Especially, the sequence of the cocaine fueled day.  The hilarious and ironic part of the film, Goodfellas assumes stand up/loyal blood brother type of guy, at the end everyone and their mother was either trying to save their own ass or whack anyone who stood in the way.   Great soundtrack.


Street Smart--ugh. this one annoyed me despite the cast.  I think part of the problem is the plot.   It's weird.   There are two paths you could go with this: go parody/for laughs or go dark.  They chose neither or some middle ground.  I ended up nodding off in the middle waiting for some sort of energy from this.  Part of this is the cast of the main lead: Christopher Reeves.  While Morgan Freeman who plays the pimp Fast Black is excellent (and his performance is wasted), Reeves doesn't really match this intensity and I wondered whether someone else (Mickey Rourke?) would be better in this. Freeman goes from smooth talking to someone who would cut you over $20 and it's totally believable.  Oh the ending is a total crock.  I think they just wanted a happy ending to send the audience home satisfied.

#456 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 237 weeks ago

Triangle: slasher/time travel film.I found it pretty fun just to watch how the main character was going to get out of the loop.  I'm not sure about the ending since there are a lot of meanings/interpretations of it.  Retroactive a 1997 is sort of similar to this.  But Triangle takes place on a boat which makes it interesting.

Network--the last time I saw this was in the early 2000s.  And it's more relevant NOW than it was back then.  Basically, online/the internet could be substituted for Television.  I had no idea how funny this film is, especially Faye Dunaway's Diane character.  Oh, it basically predicted/forecasted the mergers and the harmful intersection of business/big money and the news, which is still felt to this day.  And the rise of live shot/homemade footage would become popular.  As well as glamourizing crimminals/questionable people and making celebs out of them.  Oh one of the best parts (and best acted) of the film is near the end where Max (William Holden) just tells Diane how hollow, shallow and a sad person that she is.  I totally glossed over this the last time I saw this. Faye Dunaway had a great prime from like late 60s-late 70s.  Apparently, the wreck that was Mommie Dearest torpedoed her career along with the fact that she was extremely difficult to deal with.

Trapped--kidnapping film with Kevin Bacon and Charlize Theron, Stuart Townsend, and Courtney Love.  It's pretty good.  Not great or a classic.  Just watchable especially if you turn your brain off.  It was going well 2/3 of the way, then the last 30 mins went off the rails plot wise.  Shoot outs and ridiculous over the top stuff.  There's one key plot that is revealed that gets totally lost and thrown away in favor of the car crashes and etc.  I turned off my brain at that point and just enjoyed the stupidity. 

V  for Vendetta-I saw this in the theater  in 2006 or 2007.  I think it holds up pretty well.  I found the middle slightly long.  They could have probably edited out.  Also I'm not sure whether or not the point where they stage Evie's abduction and captivity is neccesary.  This is basically a modern version of 1984.  There are some nice touches like the jukebox, film posters, watching old fims, in the place where V lives.  And really at this point, I'm not sure it's that far fetched that a nation would kill it's own citizens on purpose to gain power.  Still I really enjoyed the beginning and end of this film.

#457 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 238 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Thief is sooooooooooo good. I really wish they could have used that character in HEAT.

I really love Manhunter, too. To Live and Die in LA was a great 80s film. William Petersen ended up turning down Goodfellas, Platoon and Tom Sizemore's role in HEAT. Yikes!

There's a film called Fear City with Tom Berenger and Melanie Griffith about a serial killer murdering strippers in seedy, Taxi Driver era NY. Great 80s film. It might be the greatest sexploitation, B-movie I've ever seen. Abel Ferrera is the Scorsese of B films.

Frank in Thief is James Caan's best performance.  You totally buy him as this tough East Coast guy trying to quit and live the American Dream that he has built for himself.  The sad thing is he can't escape the criminal life or the past (the scene with the baby adoption worker).

This might be sacrilege but I enjoy To Live and Die in LA more than The French Connection.  It's just more fun for me to watch.  Dafoe is great as Rick Masters as well.  Yikes, indeed, probably as bad as Costner turning down all those roles.

I've seen Fear City and it's hilarious.  And yes, I love seeing pre-cleaned/up sanitized NYC.  Couple other Abel Ferrara's suggestions:  Ms.  45 but it's got that 70s grit.  The storyline is a little unique.  King of New York, probably Ferrara's most mainstream film.  Features a great cast and some fine performances from Christopher Walken and Laurence Fishburne.

#458 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 238 weeks ago

James wrote:

I think a major problem with Scarface is it comes off a tad cheesy...the over the top accent, the level of violence, and just the way it's filmed. Even though the 80s are just kicking off when this is released, it has that 80s feel to it...which is a huge contrast to this type of film in the 70s.

I've talked about this before....the realism of 70s film which gets brushed aside for the glossy, over the top feel of the1980s. No aspect of pop culture avoided this in that decade.

Go watch an episode of Maude or Streets of San Francisco and then watch something like The Facts of Life or Matlock.

Yeah that incest subplot is bat shit....


Funny you should mention the cheese/over the top factor of Scarface. I remember the scenes where they are in the club and that annoying cheesy 80's anthem Push it to the Limit starts playing.

I think some of the really early 80s films (maybe 80 and 81) avoid this cheesiness and still retain part of the grit/realism of the 70s.  Blow Out from DePalma was released in 1981 and still has that ambivalent shades of gray/ feel.  Ditto Thief from Mann in 1981.

#459 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 238 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

So how did this dude get 81 million votes again?

Oh that’s easy….Donald Trumps behavior was revolting.

In my opinion he’s a great symbol of everything that’s wrong with this country. Someone with no real talent or skill at the top of the mountain.

A man who pays no taxes but allegedly is a brilliant business man. A man who hate socialism but uses the IRS and the tax code like a piggy bank.

You left out the part where he told his supporters not to vote (the mail in ballot stuff) which was one of dumbest things he's done.

I just don't get why the entire trans issue is a political issue.  It just seems trivial when compared to other pressing political issues facing this country.  How did we ever get to this where (maybe) social issues got turned into a politcal football anyway?  Both sides do this too so it's not like you can single out one party.

#460 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 239 weeks ago

Scarface (1983).  There was nothing wrong with this movie but I came away kind of with an eh? reaction.  It's well acted and there are some great set pieces.  So why does this not move me or engage me like Carlito's Way (another Pacino/DePalma collaboration and gangster film) or the Godfather (another 3hr epic from Pacino)?  Pacino is great and gives it his all into the character.  I just don't know why I didn't connect with this on an emotional level.  Oh the fixation that Tony had on his sister Gina was disgusting bordering on incestous.  This is one of those films that's well made but I have no desire to watch for another few years.

Hell up in Harlem--fun blaxplotation film from 1973.  It's obvious this was made with a lesser budget but it didn't bother me.  I had fun seeing the different shot/angles that came from some of the scenes from this film.  It's over the top but that's the fun of watching some of these films.  Pretty good soundtrack too from Edwin Starr.

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