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#461 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 240 weeks ago

James wrote:

The internet wasn't designed to be the corporate, dystopic wasteland it became.

Would the "wild west" vibe of the 1990s internet have continued indefinitely? No...but had it not been intentionally steered into this direction, it would be an entirely different beast.

The internet used to offer near infinite choices....blogs, bulletin boards, general websites, chat rooms, etc. It barely had any ads.

It's been consolidated into a few massive platforms where the users are being socially engineered, farmed for data, and bombarded with ads.


It needed some form of regulation years ago.



The mainstreaming of social media is what ruined it... along with smartphones. This allowed it to take over people's lives. It turned a huge percentage of the population to become dopamine addicts feeding on outrage and the level of manipulation is unprecedented.

We also now live in a world where kids no longer wish to be doctors, astronauts, scientists, and lawyers when they grow up....

They want to be YouTubers and "influencers".


Social media never should've evolved beyond this point.

Having said that... Myspace probably would have become a monster as well had smartphones fueled its rise instead of its user base being on desktop/laptop computers.



I remember reading years ago that almost half of Twitter's users are bots...and Twitter knows this. They don't remove them because it would wipe out a huge portion of its site and this would impact the stock price.

All of these platforms need an overhaul.

I agree with all of this.  Social media is pretty much a waste at this point for me outside of news (from solid sources and occasional analysis of that).  I mean you basically need to weed out all the bs'ers and people who have no clue what the fuck they are talking about. 

Funny you should mention the 90s, I was watching a little of Mission Impossible (1996 one) and Cruise's character is on the internet using/searching for a usenet newsgroup for info.  And I was wondering how the fuck did we go from that to this?

Mentioning youtube, my nephews watch that stuff a lot.  And do you know what they watch?  Not anything informative or that type of stuff but youtube videos of people PLAYING video games.  Sigh.   As far as infleuncers go,  they had an episode of Law and Order where the older cops (around our age) who had a WTF look when interviewing 2 "infleuncers" that were involved in a case.  That's my reaction.  I have no idea what that is nor will ever.


The last point is key, these guys in charge of these media outlets are making way too much money to care.  They know that their outlets are harmful and just dumping false info or just allowing people to voice this stuff (this is nonpartisan issue to me) and still they do nothing because they are rolling in dough.  It's become a business now and they only do shit when there's really bad optics or some sort of scandal that is unavoidable.

#462 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 240 weeks ago

James wrote:

The Brave One - A Jodi Foster movie I didn't know existed until last night. It got shitty reviews but I was intrigued.

It's Death Wish for women. I started getting into the story but it gets more ridiculous as it goes on. The ending completely ruins it. It also feels tacked on at the last minute.

Her and Terrence Howard had great chemistry. You get invested into their budding relationship (which never happens) and how he's piecing it all together. That climax spits in the face of all of it. I don't know what the hell they were thinking.

I think one of the mistakes was having her go after the guys who assaulted her and murdered her fiance....and going after the guy Terrance was investigating. The story was better when her attacks were more random. I liked the psychological layers of the story with her recording her crimes and listening to them in the aftermath....and how she was toying with Terrance.

Deja Vu - I hadn't watched this since seeing it in the theater 15 years ago. I remember being blown away by this and falling in love with Paula Patton.

It's not as good as I remembered it. It gets a little too outlandish and that ending is garbage.


I saw the Brave One years ago at a dollar theater and just remember it being one of those "shut off your brain" movies.  Maybe I should revisit this one.

On Deja Vu, I watched it during my pandemic movie binges and remember liking Patton's character most of all.  Watched it for Val Kilmer mostly (this was before he got super fat).  And I agree about the ending.  It's one of those time travel things where it just gets totally confusing to me (also have the same issue with Looper).  I kinda liked the setting in New Orleans though, that one is always a fun city for movie settings.  I remember liking the dramatic elements (again due to Patton) more than the time travel stuff.

#463 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 240 weeks ago

James wrote:

I need to rewatch the Godfather trilogy. It's overdue... especially the third one.

Around 20 years ago on the cable channel AMC or Bravo they showed a version of both I and II unedited as a single film and in chronological order. It was amazing seeing it in that format.

Good point on observing different things in films during rewatches as you get older.  One thing I noticed more on my last watch of the first a few years ago is Carlo's betrayal of the family leading to his murder. It's sorta going on in the background with all the other craziness transpiring. Then it hits you like a ton of bricks when Sonny is killed.

What an amazing film. Too bad nothing remotely up to this standard will be made again.


I'm pretty certain it was AMC.  I remember this sort of.  I also remember they ran the unedited film, then showed Godfather + Godfather II seperately.  Because I remember taping I and II on a VHS tapes.  Oh fuck, I probably should have tape the unedit film as well.

Oh definitely,  the entire sequence sets the 2nd half of the film in motion.   And yeah even though you know it's coming (Sonny's death) it still hits you.  It's totally consistent with Sonny's character and flaws.

#464 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 240 weeks ago

It turned 50 so I had to rewatch it.  Yeah, I'm talking about the Godfather.  Having seen this a few times, you end up watching and trying to pick up stuff on stuff you missed or never noticed.  Like in the famous "leave the gun get the canoli" scene, it's set up like outside a field of wheat and grain and in the back you can see the Statue of Liberty.  It's kind of a metaphor for the American dream that even these gangsters seemed to have achieved.  Or at the end of film , there's a clear callback to a central scene that has happened earlier.  In essence, though this is a film about fathers and sons and the dynamic within that. 

Also finally watched Brick (2005).  Weird that is taken me so long to watch this.  It's rather clever and I really liked it.  Interesting to see high school students act like those characters from film/neo-noir of yesteryear.  And it works.

#465 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 241 weeks ago

James wrote:

Winona... immediately presented as the one with her shit together, gets fired from her job as a glorified intern due to self sabotage. What does she do next? Lays around the house feeling sorry for herself, running up $500 psychic line phone bills, and uses her dad's gas card to make quick cash. The little ambition she has(the "documentary") is tied up with the shallow relationship with Stiller and this too gets sabotaged.



While it's a good movie, I agree with the negative reviews saying that the film doesn't go far enough with the message it's trying to send. It's all surface level. A good time to dive into how they're wasting their lives is the argument between Stiller and Hawke at the apartment while Winona is standing there. Instead it is more played for laughs.


I totally forgot how the Winona character went totally downhill after she lost her job.  IIRC she was rather immature about how she got fired.  It was just really stupid and like self sabotage as you say.  Basically after that she becomes a slacker and a double of the Ethan Hawke character.

You're actually correct about the major flaw with the film.  It should be a debate about how 90s post college ideals, dreams, and life philosphies (or whatever) comes smack dab into the realities of life.  It's a great film title, I might point out, nice play on words.  Anyway, you might have these ideals but those don't usually pay the bills.  And sometimes you have to delay your goals (like Lainey becoming a director for documentaries) for a bit otherwise you end up stuck like the Hawke character.  The ending of this is like something out of a romantic comedy except that I have no idea how it got "to that point" and it's not really consistent with the reality of what we have shown in the film.  I don't want to sound like I'm trashing this too much since I do love that it captures the vibe/feel of the 90s perfectly.


Straight Time (1979)  Someone criticized Hoffman's films a few pages back.  He's fine here as a career criminal trying to go straight and failing at it.  He does attempt to re-enter society but it just doesn't work for him for a variety of reasons.  So he predicatably goes back to the life he knows.  I don't think I would have liked this as much if Theresa Russell (aka the MILF in Wild Things) wasn't as good in her role as the girlfriend.   I'd say more but I don't want to spoil it.

Basic Instinct (1991) .  This one is a fav and maybe a guilty pleasure.  For a good while there Michael Douglas could do no wrong. I gotta admit though I love late 80s-early 90s Sharon Stone.  From stuff like Action Jackson, Total Recall, The Quick and the Dead to Casino and this film, she did a lot of stuff that I loved.  And she basically owns this film from the way she basically manipulates Nick(Douglas character) from start to finish.  He thinks he is in control but he's really not.  The character becomes somewhat obsessive and psychotic in the second half of the film.  I totally forgot how funny this film is too.  The cops are like cracking jokes at the first crime scene.  I still think the film is a bit long and wouldn't cut out some parts of the middle.

#466 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 241 weeks ago

James wrote:

The Pelican Brief - Damn this movie is looong. Major pacing issues and it needed around 30 minutes cut.

It's ok but the conspiracy truly requires the suspension of disbelief. She's a college girl who created an interesting theory. That's it. Was she right? Yes....but if the FBI, CIA, and the president/staff would simply ignore it, it's so irrelevant that nobody knows it exists! By targeting her and those around her for assassination, it does the opposite...it puts a giant spotlight on the brief.

Reality Bites - As I get older, I sympathize more with Stiller's character. It was obvious when walking into their lives that it was an ironclad clique and he was on the outside looking in. It never would've worked.

Another thing I notice as I get older is how truly manipulative Winona really is here. She has both guys wrapped around her finger and is basically just using Stiller.

I also think that their final meeting at the club should've been handled better.


I think I've seen it once (Pelican Brief) and it was a slog to go through.  And also I've never really like any John Grisham adaptions into motion pictures, the novels are always better.

The thing about the Stiller character too is that he's the most mature out of them.  He has a stable job and his own apartment.  I think they mock him (I may be wrong it's been a while since I watch him) for this which is kinda mean.   At the end , the Janine Garrafalo character has her shit together and got promoted to a store manager at GAP, while Lainey and the Ethan Hawke character are kinda adrift and still trying to find themselves and figure out their lives.  The ending is a little sad to me.

#467 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 243 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Just saw that. sad

I've been following the Monday night wars on YouTube, and right now the Outsiders are at their peak. Totally forgot how great he was on the mich (and behind the scenes, it was his idea to do Crow Sting). He made Flair look good, which wasn't easy the older and more limited Ric got.

He was fucking ace on the mike.   He also had this "cool aura" that's totally different from what Nash had.  There was an element of danger with his character, some street toughness that differentiated him from Nash.  Nash had that too cool for school, sarcastic kind of personalilty.
I'm still kinda irked that he never got one of those "transition" runs with a World Championship in either WWE or WCW (yeah, he had problems but whatever).   I forgot whom he was wrestling in WCW but that guy was trying to wiggle out of the Outsiders Edge and it was one of the funnier things I saw (or thought at  the time).  Oh he also sold the stone cold stunner like a champ in 2002.

For Lofton:  there's a razor ramon match from 92 or 1993 against Rick Martel (it was on Raw I think) for the IC title that is really good.  The two ladder matches with Michaels obviously.  I'd also add the Goldust feud in 1995.  The match itself sucked but the feud was freaking entertaining to me.  I'd also skip most of 95 for the WWF, they were running on fumes at that point.

#468 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 243 weeks ago

James wrote:

Scott Hall is on life support after hip surgery. Apparently had three heart attacks during the surgery.

Hopefully he pulls through but it doesn't sound good.

Just read Kevin Nash's latest instagram post and after they gather his family, it appears the plug will be pulled.

Scott Hall who probably did his best wrestling as Razor Ramon in the WWF but achieved more fame as one half of the NWO Outsiders.  For whatever anyone chooses to say about WCW, they will always have that storyline and Hall was a big part of that.  Thinking back, I always loved the "survey" promo he used to do before a match.  As an aside, another piece of my adolescence/childhood gone.

RIP Scott.

#469 Re: The Sunset Strip » William Hurt has Died » 243 weeks ago

Oh fuck.  My favorite Hurt role was Ned in Body Heat.

#470 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 243 weeks ago

James wrote:

I think he's handled the Russia-Ukraine crisis fairly well so far but the upcoming elections will be a complete disaster if he doesn't get control of what's happening here.

I lean left as you know, but I agree.  The Russia-Ukraine issue isn't really an election issue.  I mean we're just kinda there providing reconassance/support whatever.

The high gas prices (people can relate to this and it's EASILY understandable) and high cost of goods, the economy etc.  That will sink the Democrats.   It might not totally be their fault but voters blame the party in power here.

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