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#491 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses Live at the Whiskey 88- Used to Love Her(minus Adler) » 557 weeks ago
You make some valid points but...
doesn't mean they have to have Izzy to record a traditional GN'R album.
He left in 1991. Its 2016. They have yet to record a traditional GNR album without him and VR didn't do it either.
What if GN'R blew everyone's minds and put out their version of "King Animal" as a comeback with Axl, Slash & Duff, sans Izzy?
You know I'm "all in" on a King Animal style comeback but here's a worrying thing about it being the 'Big 3' now.....it was the 'big 3' in 1994. When it came time to start writing new material, that is when problems immediately started and it was an avalanche of shit until they all bailed. What lit the fuse? No Izzy replacement. Huge didn't work(Slash didn't want him), Gilby didn't work(Axl didn't want him) and by the time Finck enters the mix, Slash had already left town.
That leads to 1996-2014.
They are back together again, about to embark on a major tour, and touring may be fine and dandy but once in a studio trying to whip up brand new tracks, it starts looking like 1994 from a fan perspective.
Yeah I know Axl has/had good songs. So do Slash and Duff solo and in VR. Having said that, we have never seen a GNR song released with those three involved but with Izzy absent and Stones covers don't count.
This is an interesting situation to say the least.
One thing that might make it different this time isn't just age but the fact Duff and Slash are not junkies this time around.
Slash has recorded numerous songs, some of them good, believe it or not. Without Izzy.
It's more of a matter of finding a guy AXL can relate to (Richard, more than Dave), that Slash can get down with, and suddenly we've got a horse race. GN'R is back.
Slash can bring in TONS of guitarists he's worked with over the years, some he loves to write with... if Axl ain't down with it, it ain't happening. Izzy ain't coming, so it's gotta be Richard.
In fairness, Richard wasn't in the picture in 1994. So we have no fuckin' clue what would've happened had he been there.
I still think it would MAJORLY help Axl is he would open his mind and be willing to work with other writers. I know everybody freaks the fuck out with other writers brought in, but in fairness it wouldn't hurt to bring in a Bob Ezrin or Bob Rock or Rick Rubin or Desmond Child (ducks flying Jack bottle)
I'd like to get one more album out of Axl before he fucking dies, and that was BEFORE Slash rejoined the band.
#492 Re: Guns N' Roses » Did IZZY STRADLIN Join TWITTER And Say Something About GUNS N' ROSES? » 557 weeks ago
AFD 5 might be one of the few times Dizzy is told to stay home. Still wouldn't shock me if he's out there.
#493 Re: Guns N' Roses » SLASH Gets New GUNS N' ROSES Guitar Pick (Photo) » 557 weeks ago
Major Mayhem wrote:....Own the pick the pick that Slash uses on the 30th anniversary tour, yours for only $9.99!!
See, it is a money grab
I see your point but there's nothing wrong with them doing this IMO. Fans have lacked a ton of proper merch for years. When Soundgarden reunited they started selling all sorts of things...a bunch of new/old shirts and things such as key chains, wallets,etc. Its to be expected. I take the roll out of new merch as a good sign. Its one of the first stages of a reunion getting off the ground properly.
I think it'd be cool if Guns took a page from the Seattle boys book about using alot of occult/ambient graphics to be their new design, instead of all the traditional, we've seen it a million times, stuff. Save that for the reunion.
Soundgarden collabs with Josh Graham at Suspended In Light. Alot of mainstream artists do. I fucking LOVE his stuff, and would LOVE to see what he would come up with for Guns N' Roses.
This is one of my favorites. I've loved what he's done with the Telephantasm, King Animal & Echo of Miles releases.
#494 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ex-GUNS N' ROSES Guitarist RON 'BUMBLEFOOT' THAL Wishes His Former Ban » 557 weeks ago
Okay i'm gonna be the dick
Bullshit
Ron kept the GN'R thing going because he had a solo album coming out and knew it'd sell more with all of his entire fanbase being GN'R fans, and didn't want to alienate his fanbase, knowing he had a solo record release on tap. He baited people along, when even GNR's camp released a statement saying "we've known Ron was out since the end of Vegas in 2014; no clue as to why he's continued to say he is" or whatever they said.
Thus the reason Ron treated GN'R in past tense on his profile on Facebook, but publicly refused to talk about (even to his buddy Eddie Trunk), talked VERY negative about when he would talk, treated it like it was a fucking sequel to I.R.S. or Out Ta Get Me, then all of the sudden DJ quits, releases a very complimentary statement... and... leaves. Big fuckin' deal.
There MIGHT have been a miscommunication on what exactly the NDA meant, but Ron was perpetuating what he was for his own gain. Not calling the guy a dick, but he was in a hard spot. If he would've came out from the get-go, and said "i'm out", the interest in his solo effort would've been luke warm at best. Gilby Clarke 2000-level.
But "Guns N' Roses guitarist Ron 'Bumblefoot' Thal" on your release looks ALOT better. Gets you interviews booked. Gets the promo out there.
If he was out of GN'R, officially, and tried to push that album... nobody, other than Trunk, would've granted him one single interview. No one would've fuckin' cared. He knew that, and he milked it as long as he could. Maybe he felt it was owed to him.
Regardless... I was a supporter of the guy initially. But his own work turned me off to him. He's just not that great. A poor man's Satriani. Nothing more.
#495 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alice In Chains as Opening Act in Vegas? » 557 weeks ago
I never got it. I never got it to this day. Faith No More was another one him and Duff were big on.
I just think the grunge scene came from the very liberal scene up in Seattle and that, let's be honest, One In A Million attracted alot of the WRONG fans to Axl Rose (thus the confrontation in St. Louis with the white biker gang), and those Seattle guys wanted NOTHING to do with him, or his association to them.
The media played a big part in it too, playing up Axl's lyrics and GN'R in general that they were misogynistic towards women, their videos were banned, and this was in the 80's when Political Correctness was born, then died out, and obviously in the last few years has made a ROARING gaytacular return.
Even in grunge documentaries, most of the members of bands like The Melvins, Mudhoney, Green River, some of the lesser knowns from that scene will tell you how much the entire LA glam scene was a complete turn off to them. To them it played to the lowest common denominator, and GN'R played into that scene with Axl's (and a I fucking love him for it) unapologetic PRO-MALE approach to life in his lyrics. He wasn't fuckin' Coldplay, that's for goddamn sure.
Everything was being labeled, and Axl got lost in that label. Axl's immaturity in defining his stance, his on-stage displays of what seemed like childishness, and complete angry defiance just made him an EASY target for the media.
Further burying him with the Seattle guys.
Ironically the only band that never joined in on kicking them was -- Alice In Chains. Layne never publicly derided Axl (despite the fact the rest of the Seattle frontmen did), and Jerry & Sean have always been very complimentary to GN'R, saying they were a big influence on them, so much to a point their original name was "Alice N' Chainz", and Jerry & Sean also have gone in-depth explaining how they felt GN'R kicked in the door for grunge's success, feeling that they and alot of the Sub Pop bands would've never even gotten consideration in the mainstream of GN'R hadn't blazed that trail. But the rest of the LA bands were basically a joke to all of them.
I think Jerry & Sean have also alluded to that even when GN'R became the band to hate in Seattle, that behind close doors everyone were big fans and thought they were the best around at the time. Cornell has alluded to this as well. They all were happy for Duff, and thought Axl, Slash & Izzy were one-of-a-kind players.
Ironic they are the ones to get the call. Hopefully this goes really well and leads to some collaborations.
#496 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ponder this.... » 557 weeks ago
Ehh, I think there's more to it than that DCK (good to see you again friend). Lofton is right, Izzy doesn't join Twitter and suddenly become the most vocal member or former member of the band, when Izzy's been a ghost for the last 10 years for the most part. Now suddenly he's out-Slashing Slash?
Izzy is sending a message. And it could be one of two things. 1) Izzy could be speaking for the fans and telling the band "Don't lead MY fans on, by pretending i'm going on stage with you when you know I turned you down", or 2) Izzy sticking his toes in the water and gauging fan reaction to his "potential" involvement and whether it'd be worth it to him, or 3) they turned Izzy down, or Izzy's request, and this move is to try to put the pressure on GN'R to pay him what he wants to be involved.
I actually think it's a combo of all three. Still don't think it happens until 2017 at the earliest tho.
#497 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alice In Chains as Opening Act in Vegas? » 557 weeks ago
I was freaking out at this announcement. Friends heard and actually called me because my house is drenched in GN'R & AIC stuff.
They were like "you've gotta go, this is the perfect ticket for you"
Yes, but I can't make it. Still, this was a pretty fucking cool score of them for Vegas. AIC is the perfect band for not only these warm-up gigs but for a future tour as well.
It's not everyday your two favorite bands to ever exist get on the exact same ticket. I really really hope AIC/GN'R branch this out to a full NA tour. It would be a dream come true for me.
I think I might collapse if I hear Nutshell & Estranged in the same show.
Hate to say I told you so but I told you so!
Yes, perfect fit. The ties are strong. Duff with the Seattle guys, Mike Inez on Snakepit...older major act but not an 80s band.
You're also forgetting Axl was a HUGE fan of Chains before they hit big. He was trying to dig people into Bleach, Facelift, Louder Than Love & Apple before grunge ever even hit it big.
I want to say years later in an RS interview he named dropped AIC & PJ as being personal faves. He was a huge Soundgarden/Cornell fan way back in the Loder interviews, and before Kurt was a complete dick to him for no reason, wore Nirvana hats & shirts everywhere.
#498 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alice In Chains as Opening Act in Vegas? » 557 weeks ago
I think Baz was fine for nu-GNR, but reunited Guns definitely deserves something better. I didn't think people were serious when talking about reunited Skid Row opening for GN'R.
This got started because TNT's Tony Harnell, who was Skid Row's most recent singer, recently announced he was no longer in Skid Row. TNT has basically been in a holding pattern since early 2015, because Harnell left them without a lead vocalist. So I think three different fanbases all saw the rock God's aligning everything. TNT had an open vocalist position for Harnell to return to TNT. GN'R had reunited old school Guns N' Roses, and Skid Row was now without a vocalist. Why not call Baz? If GN'R can reunite, surely Skid Row could, plus the added benefit of it'd be a HUGE score for Skid Row to open a gig as big as GN'R.
The reality is...
Harnell is NOT back in TNT
Baz is NOT back in Skid Row
And this is NOT a GN'R reunion (Slash simply joined the nuGNR band from 2014, thus creating another lineup, really)
It was three different fanbases all making ALOT of assumptions at the exact same time.
Cool for all three if it would've worked out tho. Sadly it didn't.
#499 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses Live at the Whiskey 88- Used to Love Her(minus Adler) » 557 weeks ago
I think the tracklist for AFD without Izzy would've been much more straight-forward, and would've consisted of songs (some of the big ones we got), mixed with songs sounding like a cross between AC/DC & Accept.
Richard's lack of a solo career is curious. I'm not sure if there are contractual reasons as to why he doesn't record and release. If Ron can do it, why not Richard?
But then again, Tommy Stinson was seen as a rock God and the true secret weapon of that period, and Tommy has only like, what, 2 solo releases spanning 15 years?
Izzy might have alot of solo releases to his name, but Izzy, like Bucket, needs an Axl or a Slash or a Duff to reel him in and tighten some of his music up. Never, ever, listen to Izzy's albums one after the other. Why? Because they'll start to blend together after awhile, because all Izzy does is Izzy. Over and over, again and again. That first Ju Ju Hounds record is still my favorite because it featured Izzy doing what Izzy does best with the most "outside of the box" experimentation of any of his releases. I think he got a little streamlined later on, no different than Bucket.
So i'm on the fence with Izzy.
But at this point, it's time to move on if there's any hope for a future. Just because Slash & Duff come back to GN'R, doesn't mean they have to have Izzy to record a traditional GN'R album. If there are Richard tracks in the vault, and Richard knows how to write with Slash with that magical stuff like Izzy could just pick up on (keep in mind, Izzy has walked out on ALL THREE numerous times in the studio since 1991, and has consistently refused to join GN'R & VR both).
If not Richard. What about Dave Kushner? What if GN'R blew everyone's minds and put out their version of "King Animal" as a comeback with Axl, Slash & Duff, sans Izzy?
They have to find a way to pick up the pieces and move on from NEEDING Izzy to write.
#500 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy reportedly in GN'R and wrote new music » 557 weeks ago
GN'R was never, ever, ever going to put out their own Carnival of Souls. Axl is not Paul/Gene. I wished Axl was. I would've loved if from 1998-2014, we would've gotten the GN'R-equivalent of Creatures of the Night, War Machine, I Love It Loud, Who Wants To Be Lonely, Tears Are Falling, Trial By Fire, Lick It Up, Thrills In The Night, Uh! All Night, Reason To Live, Crazy Crazy Nights, Turn On The Night, Forever, You Love Me To Hate You, Hide Your Heart, Unholy, God Gave Rock N' Roll To You II, Domino, I Just Wanna.... to name a few.
I don't give a damn how cheesy, how 80's any of those songs are... they are surprisingly good for an entire decade Paul & Gene without the makeup, without the gimmick, without "the other two", were selling gold records, and big hit singles.
Could you imagine? Could you imagine if during that 1998-2014 period that Axl had put out 6 full albums, plus a live album, plus a Greatest Hits set (with songs from that era)?
If Axl had all those songs in his back pocket, he could do anything he wanted. Even take his music solo, while still recording under the GN'R banner.
Then again Paul & Gene seemingly blew their creative loads in the 80's. They have recorded anything worth a damn since the "Psycho Circus" single, and that ballad (can't remember the name) that was a Diane Warren-collab that was on the Detroit Rock City soundtrack in 1999, that sounded like KISS's version of "Don't Wanna Miss A Thing", and was arguably better than Aerosmith imo.
But enough about KISS -- Axl isn't Paul/Gene. He doesn't record that way. In the 25 years since UYI, we've basically gotten a covers LP, two live albums, a non-sanctioned compilation disc, two soundtrack singles, and an original studio LP. In 25 years. That SUCKS.
Axl's gonna hold all of his "Carnival of Souls" cards back for his "Psycho Circus" release. The leftovers, like the true version of Oh My God, Silkworms, some of the stuff Dizzy & Chris have teased for years from that 1998-2000 period, will probably be the primarily release later on. The rest will be Bucket chunks.
Axl's ballads, which even on CD I, were basically UYI III leftovers, will be held back again, because... well... it's what Axl does? Why would Axl give away what big Guns he has left on a throwaway Carnival of Souls release?
Yeah... he'll wait. But yeah, hopefully GNR's Psycho Circus is around the corner. But... you know... ALOT FUCKING BETTER. 
