I was certainly hesitant to elect a blowhard with no government experience to the office in 2016.  That's why I didn't vote for him.  But after 4 years of reality and seeing what he did versus what my worst fears and media told would manifest that didn't, it wasn't a hard choice for me in 2020.  Fuck Donald Trump.  As ID said, the dude can't take 2 steps without stepping on his own dick.  The moron couldn't even condemn white supremacy with his "Stand by" comments.  And his election shit is just as embarrassing as the fools who swore Putin had him on a leash and vast conspiracy was to be unleashed.

But I care first and foremost about American citizens and protecting our sovereignty and safety.  If you ever wanted a night and day comparison between how Trump and Biden felt about those topics and addressed them, this thread is the perfect example.

What do you mean by "semi supportive of Trump"?  I've made it clear for years that I was largely aligned with Trump's overall foreign policy and domestic policy, but can't stand the man.  There are many things he did I didn't like or agree with, but nothing as colossal a fuck up as what Biden has unleashed.

Depending on the topic and how it's framed from a pollster, the overwhelming majority of Americans aligned with Trump's international and domestic agenda.  But far too many people inject accusations of racism and bigotry into any topic, so it quickly gets muddled.  The overwhelming majority of Americans support state issued IDs to vote, but if you pay attention to the media and liberal provocateurs, such an idea is as bad if not worse than slavery.

No, what I'm saying is what you're doing cartwheels to avoid addressing.  We should have gotten out of Afghanistan.  We could have even done it on Biden's timeline.  He just should have had a plan to secure/force citizens out of the country before pulling back.  It's not a hard problem to identify, but you're here to stir the pot and play sycophant to Biden.  Biden and Biden alone was responsible for the timeline, resources, and coordination to extract Americans and the few Afghan's who qualified for a special visa for years of work collaborating with the US.  He didn't account for any of that, and now 10-15k Americans are in direct danger of being slaughtered by the Taliban. 

I understand you can't have an intelligent discussion, and refuse to acknowledge any of your dear leader's short comings.  But 15k Americans are trapped between Taliban forces only because of a decision and plan made by Joe Biden.  No one else.

Please just leave the conversation.  You're not contributing anything, admitted you don't care, and refuse to get informed.  Find a thread you can post in.  Or better just tweet.

CNN had an “analysis” earlier that was titled “When did you last think of Afghanistan?”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/opinions … index.html

This organization along with many others earned their audience preaching fear and telling them that Trump would bring WW3. He ended ISIS and withdrew the bulk of American forces, leaving small contingents as we have in Iraq since 2011. He got 3 or 4 Arab nations to recognize Israel. He held talks with Kim and got the guy to quit shooting rockets over Japan. No one is talking about North Korean nukes. He negotiated a deal to stop combat operations with the Taliban, and set a time table for a full withdrawal.

The American media can’t hide what a collosal fuck up this is, but they’re bending over themselves to make excuses on how they’re not looking like fools for soft balling and singing praise of this administration. Even going so far as to tell us Afghanistan and this colossal fuck up don’t really matter, cause it’s just Afghanistan. It was already fucked, so botching a withdrawal and putting 10k Americans at the direct mercy of the Taliban, who we just learned Biden is engaged in daily negotiations with, isn’t worth much consideration, culpability, and accountability.

After the scrutiny and tone directed at the former President for his international relations, you have to be a real sycophant to not find issue with the current President and the direct danger he’s directly responsible for putting 10k+ of his citizens in.

To say this isn’t important or worth caring about…. Jesus Christ.

You know the answer.  The US has been supplying Afghanistan with weapons since the 1980s.  As have the Russians/Soviets and Pakistan.  Anyone paying attention knows Afghanistan is just football kicked around by the world powers who inevitably give rise to their new enemy.