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#531 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy now $1.99 » 803 weeks ago
Hardcores were interested in 2002, and even 2006 to an extent.
The key difference now is even hardcore Axlites have jumped ship and pretty much joined the "who gives a fuck anymore" category.
I think Axl's non-existant prescence in the release of CD caused alot of that after 2008.
He hurt alot of long time fans who had waited for that album. When he did that, alot of people said "if he doesn't care, why should I"
They were let down, and they should've been. Axl totally dropped the ball, and basically made 8-9 years a waste of time for his fans. A complete and total waste of time.
And to argue that with him, instead of him just saying "yeah, I own it, sorry", he'll sit there and argue why you caused it, and his diehard supporters will say Axl didn't hold a gun to your head, blah blah blah...
Bottom line is people were hurt. Perception is reality.
I personally think without a fuckin' "Rockstar" in his back pocket, his goose is cooked in just about every level. Label, DJ's, stores, casual fans, diehard fans...
There's only one thing that can reverse it all in one swoop, but I digress...
I kinda agree with you. But my view is not as extreme as yours.
The really REALLY hardcore Axl-fans still care a great deal. You see it on various boards and on comments on FB and Twitter.
Whenever DJ tries to sell you stuff via his posts, it gets hundreds and thousands of "likes" and comments.
The fact that Axl doesn't seem to play ball (or even wants to) with his own label is not a good sign. Well, it's not a good sign if your dream is to see GNR/Axl on top of the world again. I mean, setting up interviews and apperances on major outlets (TV, radio, print) requires a highly proffesional team of know-how people with connections all over the biz. And I guess Beta, Del, Fernando and Jarmo doesn't seem to cut it. And Azoff was apperantly shooting for something else, I do believe that.
Axl said early on that he wanted GNR to be as big as they could get. But when that happened and the UYI-tours were over, he didn't seem to actually ever want to "go there" again. There is not a mob of fans waiting outside his hotel anymore (unless he's in South America) and he seems to like it that way.
Axl will continue to be a rockstar in the sense that people will go see GNR in concert as long as he keeps touring and releasing music on a regular basis in some form or another. If that ends up beeing stadium, arenas or club shows, it doesn't matter to me and my belief is that it doesen't matter to Axl. It may even end up where the income of a tour is not enough to pay his bandmembers and that he just ends up releasing music whenever he sees fit and that's that!
At the current stage of his career, my guess is that he is somehow shackled by the fact that he owes X-amount of albums to a major label. And getting out of that "mess" is not easy when you're butting heads over how you want things to be rolled out.
Back when I was storemanager at a recordstore (around '06), I asked one of the top guys at Universal about what he could tell me about the new GNR album. He just looked at me with a combination of dissapointment/amusement and said: "We've had money put aside for that album for 5 years!! I have no idea!"
And that's coming from a Universal executive in little Norway. I can't even imagine the level of frustration from executives in major markets like the US....
Axl would prolly love to be in some kind of Trent Reznor/NIN type situation and being able to do things similar to what Bumblefoot have suggested.
Fine by me!
I still listen to Chinese Democracy on a regular basis, even though a casual rockfan couldn't name me two songs off of that album!
#532 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dj Says working new GnR songs ! :Ashba Black Carpet Interview » 804 weeks ago
Well....it could be that DJ is just told from the GNR-camp that they are "working on getting a follow-up released"
In his interview, DJ translates that to something like "we're working on new GNR songs" and then he quickly adds his new clothing-line sales pitch because he knows that his clothing-line alone won't make its way across the net and boards.
Smart selfpromoting business move! 
Wonder how long DJ can keep doing this kind of stuff before Axl puts his foot down. Surely, he can't be happy about it....
#533 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dj Says working new GnR songs ! :Ashba Black Carpet Interview » 804 weeks ago
DJ killed any momentum in that statement as soon as he started pimping Ashba Swag. Just calling it 'Swag' alone, douches the whole thing up and kills any possible business I might give him. GD does he self-promote alot. He's almost as bad as Donald Trump.
Amen!
...its fucking good news that the process is moving forward. Does it mean that there will be an album in the short to medium term. Hell no. But it's the next step toward a new album...and that makes me happy.
Amen x2!!!
With the fact that Axl NEVER gets into a studio with his employees, my guess is the best chance as a new album Guns fans will get is like James said, something from the vault, spit-shined from that 2000-2002 era, and dropped half-assed in stores/iTunes.
Sounds fine by me! Bring it! 
As long as the majority of songs are new to ME! I don't care one bit about how long the songs have been "worked on".
As for HOW a new album is released, I couldn't care less. As long as I get it. It could be "sold" as giveaways with GNR t-shirts at some giant clothing-chain for all I care... If that's what it takes to get it out.
#534 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rolling Stone Readers Pick GnR in 10 Best Music Videos of All Time » 805 weeks ago
Cool to see NR on that list.
My favourite vid is Estranged. All though it often gets slammed for being cheesy/lavish and very Axl'ish, I think it is brilliant video. Imo it really manages to portray a message of utter personal destruction.
#535 Re: Management » MyGNR closing for business » 806 weeks ago
Pretty sad news I must say.
Even though I havent posted frequently for a couple of years, I've been going to that site since, I thought since the late 90's, but reading Eric's post I guess it was around 2001. Or was that when the forum started and the site's been around for longer than that?! I could swear I started going there for news around 97-98...
Anyway sad day! Regardles of trolls n shit!
Any of you guys know whats up with the letters from lawyers n stuff? Doesn't sound cool...
#536 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy now $1.99 » 808 weeks ago
Naltav wrote:GNR was mentioned on TV on the show "Lydverket", the most popular (the only?) music-show on Norwegian TV. Yes, it was the $1,99 BestBuy deal!
Jump to around 09:35.
http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/725290/#alphabet
Translation: "Guns N' Roses isn't worth more than... well, a Kvikk Lunch (one of the most popular chocolate in Norway). Because in the US, the storechain BestBuy are so eager to get rid of their overstock of the album Chinese Democracy, that they're selling for 11,- kroner"
The host of the show is not known as a huge Axl Rose supporter. Whenever he comments on Axl/GNR, it's always with a cheap dig at Axl.
And that's the reason why I never listened to those idiots. One thing is that they might have a point within their ways of making fun of bands, the other thing is that this kind of talk just makes me not wanna listen to them because they simply annoy me when they speak like this about Axl or anyone else for that matter. It's childish and got nothing to do with appreciating music.
Agree, but then again even though the host has got his panties in a twist over Axl, it is imo a good musicshow. I have discovered some great albums through that show over the years.
#537 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy now $1.99 » 808 weeks ago
GNR was mentioned on TV on the show "Lydverket", the most popular (the only?) music-show on Norwegian TV. Yes, it was the $1,99 BestBuy deal! 
Jump to around 09:35.
http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/725290/#alphabet
Translation: "Guns N' Roses isn't worth more than... well, a Kvikk Lunch (one of the most popular chocolate in Norway). Because in the US, the storechain BestBuy are so eager to get rid of their overstock of the album Chinese Democracy, that they're selling for 11,- kroner"
The host of the show is not known as a huge Axl Rose supporter. Whenever he comments on Axl/GNR, it's always with a cheap dig at Axl.
#538 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N'Roses to play Rock in Rio » 809 weeks ago
i fucking loved hearing the new songs from the shitty RIR boots & HoB
remember listening to them in school with my mate & he says to me, "axl's still got it" cuase maddy & the blues (especially the blues - the blues '01 was the best version of that song by a million miles) & the title track (with the original 'if your ass were your head you could tell' line)
i would completely geek out if they played even one new song @ RiR '11
I also remember how cool it was to finally get that VHS of RIR'01 in the mail and watching it with my cousin! Great day!!! 
Not sure I would completely "geek out" if they played new songs this year, I'm not as starved for new songs now as I was back then. But it sure as hell would be cool!!
#539 Re: Guns N' Roses » Juan (The YouTube/GNR Cover Guy) » 810 weeks ago
I dig it. Way better than Myles does it imo.
Yepp!
Myles can sing, but I don't care for his GNR attempts!
#540 Re: Guns N' Roses » Juan (The YouTube/GNR Cover Guy) » 810 weeks ago
He's got great pipes, no doubt! 
Allways fun seeing stuff like this, especially when done good!
