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#541 Re: Guns N' Roses » When do we hear Hardskool? » 248 weeks ago
October. The Australian dates aren't going to happen and they have two shows in Mexico at the moment in early October before hitting Europe next June. Call me a moron, but I'm starting to think an album will be out before Xmas or before March depending on their final tour schedule.
#542 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Release 'Absurd' Single » 248 weeks ago
Sky Dog wrote:Beta also said in January 2001 that CD would come out in June of 2001. She was off by about 7 years!
Fair point.....BUT....
She's the manager now!
Whatever they're doing....it needs to happen at a quick pace. Let's not have a repeat of the CD years where it all leaks long before release.
i always wondered how much of CD's release was due to all the songs leaking months before its actual release date, or if the leaks were due to more people having it as it entered into production. I'll take the leaks today, and buy a couple different versions of the album when/if it ever comes out. 
#543 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Release 'Absurd' Single » 249 weeks ago
I think the days of hoping for good performance from Axl are gone down the tubes. The only thing that could get him to really bring his A game back in 2016 was the fact he worships Angus Young and AC/DC. It's really a shame we didn't get the GN'R reunion in 2006.
This isn't directed to you, but more the idea that Axl is and will continue to be a shite singer. The guy is 59 years old. Saying he doesn't look or sound like he did at 28 is absolutely true, but it's like saying the sun will come up tomorrow - no shit. We could go on and on about what he potentially could have done to be "better", but I question the accreditation of people here putting forth those arguments since I doubt we have very many vocal coaches or former world-class, rock band vocalist lurking. And more to the point, it doesn't matter. Reality is reality. I'm not dissuading people from having those conversations; you do you.
Live shows are for the people in attendance. They're their own monster and entity, and live music fans not only expect deviation from studio material, they prefer it. It kind of rubs me the wrong way that people who don't attend live shows feel they have adequate information to opine on a performance they just heard through an iphone video. If that's your thing, go for it, free world and all that. But there's something magical and unique about being in the venue and hearing the acoustics and reverb from the PA and the vibe of the audience. The band is certainly cognizant and responsive to this reality.
So Axl doesn't sound as good as he did then. Ok. What is the alternative? He uses taped vocals like Beyonce or some other pop star? Guns doesn't tour? They replace Axl as singer? I don't think it's selfish to want a good performance from the band you're shelling out coin to see. But no forum member should be surprised at what Axl Rose sounds like in 2021. He's not Vince Neil. I enjoy the show he and the others put on, and I'm content with the exchange in currency for the live show they provided. I thought I had a "good" performance in Hershey, despite it clearly being a "work the kinks out" show. I'm sure the folks who were at Boston and East Rutherford feel the same way. I can't find too many comments on Reddit or the forums from people present who feel they got fucked out of a "good" show. I'm sure they exist and their opinion is just as valid as mine, yours or anyone else's.
Anyway, I have to look at my scale and remember when it was 35 pounds lighter 20 years ago.
#544 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Release 'Absurd' Single » 249 weeks ago
I really, really, really hope this is the start of the promotion leading up to an album announcement. I'll be majorly bummed if it was released for the tour or just shits and giggles.
I want to believe this is the beginning rumblings of something big. They've gotten everyone's attention with a big WTF? move. Please don't blow this. Hard School is a very good single to launch an album.
How long do they wait to release hard school? I don't think they can do it in the next couple weeks to allow Absurd time to breathe, but they're leaving the US in 2 months and heading to South America and Australia right after. Then they have 6 months of a tour gap before they hit Europe. An album needs to be out before Europe, and I'd assume a 2nd tour of North America late summer/fall of next year. I'm no internet guru, but you only have people's attention for so long.
#545 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Release 'Absurd' Single » 249 weeks ago
If this is what the public first hears from Axl Slash and Duff, it seems doomed.
Scroll around to any story, YouTube vid, forum, etc., and the majority are calling this crap. Can't really blame them. They expect the classic GNR sound.
It's nice to have new music, of course. That's all I've ever wanted. It's certainly not my favorite. Hopefully it gets better from here.
I'm afraid this'll get abused when rock reviewers start filing their stories.
Yea, I'm trying not to shit on everyone's parade but this song doesn't do anything for me other than get my hopes up more, better songs are coming. Happy they released something, but Silkworms/Absurd isn't a track to build support for a new Guns album on.
#546 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 249 weeks ago
Key group of unvaxxed ppl aren’t ideologues. They’re ppl who saw cases falling this spring, made a personal cost-benefit analysis of “seems like COVID’s not a big deal anymore and the shot seems like a hassle/scary.” That cost-benefit analysis changes with cases on the rise. https://t.co/nHf5C4mvtT
— Kristen Soltis Anderson (@KSoltisAnderson) August 5, 2021
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Yea, the demonizing need to stop. I have friends and acquaintances on both sides of the extreme. One friend, his retired school teacher mom is making fake CDC cards. And another condemns anyone who hasn't gotten the shot as a murderer. I personally think the anti-vaxx shit is nonsense, but I think a lot of things are nonsense. Telling people they're "deplorable" isn't going to win them to your side, it's going to push them further away.
#547 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 249 weeks ago
http://gypsysoul.webspaceforme.net/GNRnj0805.png
I saw this on HTGTH.
This has to be them teeing the ball up for Hard School right?
Unless I’m missing some interpretation, the skeleton is in a Giants jersey, and the Giants play at MetLife. I don’t see a Hard School connection.
#548 Re: Management » Is This Forum Dying? » 249 weeks ago
Can confirm logout issue still exists. If I click "logout", Chrome just refreshes the main site and I'm still logged in. It's sporadic, but it's been a continued problem.
#549 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 249 weeks ago
misterID wrote:There were a lot of antoi-vaxxers to begin with, so it's not so much political. A lot of people are afraid of how quickly it was developed. Some people just don't like shots.
But most people have had multiple vaccines (measles, chicken pox etc..) so I never really got the anti-vax part of that argument AT ALL. And this thing has been out since December. There's more than enough data to indicate that yes you should get yourself vaccinated. I mean, if you're unvaccinated NOW, that's on you and no one else.
You'd be surprised how many people don't get vaccines after adult hood and the requirements dissipate. Again, how many people get their flu shot every year? At the start of COVID I did a poll here and it was about half. The figures google gives me says the same amount is representative of the US as a whole.
I'm 100% pro-vaccine and got my first shot in January. If they make this an annual booster like the flu shot (and I think they will), I'll get it annually just like I do with the flu shot. But people are people. Anywhere from 9 - 50 million people get the flu annually in the US, significantly more than what is alleged to be the COVID positivity, and prior to COVID, the CDC and NIH were saying 100k people died annually from the flu in the US. Yet half the country doesn't feel any need to get that vaccine annually.
COVID is here to stay, and like all illnesses, it will primarily affect the elderly and those with weakened immune systems. You can't stay in lockdown or masking forever. And we all live in western democracies, so forcing injections in the arm of every citizen isn't going to happen. I agree, at this point it's a personal choice whether to receive the vaccine. My personal stance on that has been made clear. I don't know what the actual ceiling of vaccinated people will be, allegedly 70% of US adults have had at least one shot, though the CDC and states did such a shit job collecting data, I don't know how accurate that claim is. But I suspect we're soon at the apex of people willing to get their shot. Sure, federal mandates for employees (if it survives court challenges) and the military will bounce numbers up a few points if we're lucky, but there's not much more carrot to give. People should never expect not to suffer the consequences of their decisions. At this point, I got no sympathy for anyone who refuses the vaccine and becomes ill. It's entirely avoidable. So let's stop babying people and let them pay the price for their choices.
#550 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will GNR release new music in 2021? » 249 weeks ago
Jw224 wrote:Until we have a release date and there's music officially released there is nothing coming in my opinion.
We literally have two years' worth of quotes from Slash and Fortus talking about a new album, jamming new songs etc. We have the band soundchecking and playing unreleased songs. The fact they're doing that tallies with the earlier rumours from the likes of MSL that Slash and Duff had reworked tracks like Atlas Shrugged.
At this point it's like denying the nose on your face.
I know you've all been burned by years of DJ Ashba and Bumblefoot blithering on about a new album coming "any minute now, guys!" But the fact is, the moment Slash and Duff walked in the door, the circumstances changed. The record company that didn't give a shit about Axl and His Funny Friends suddenly takes a keen interest in The Fucking Guns N' Roses Reunion Album, the thing they wanted all along, from 1995 to the present day. All the obstacles they threw in Axl's path because they did not give the tiniest fuck about Buckethead suddenly melt away.
And yes, the album was a long time coming. Because, as I've said with numbing frequency, there is no point releasing an album immediately when the purpose of albums nowadays is to promote a tour. The mere fact of the reunion kept the tour chugging along for three, four years. And then, just as they were gearing up for the "release an album to keep the machine ticking over" phase of the tour, fucking COVID dropped.
And yes, I know that other artists released albums in lockdown, but the fact is, you get one shot at the GN'R reunion album. It's one of the few totemic releases left in rock (maybe an Oasis reunion album?). You don't shit it out when everyone's locked in their homes and you can't milk its ability to promote the tour for all it's worth. Not with a savvy businessman like Duff on board.
This is a really good post, but I also think it's just as absurd to think Guns will just randomly drop an album in the coming weeks with no warning. Maybe and hopefully they release a new album, but the notion we'll all be taken by surprise when they announce it's in stores the day before its release is a scenario no prudent salesperson would ever consider. Guns hasn't sold out the majority of their shows, a new album on the horizon or in fans' hands helps fill those remaining empty seats.
