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#5571 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

NY Giants82 wrote:
Bright Eyes 2005 wrote:

325,000 albums sold in two weeks during the worst economic crisis in over seventy years, the worst crisis in the music industries history, and only being sold in one store which has about 900 store fronts (after closings), and 30% less foot traffic year over year, is not that bad.  Cry all you want, the album is good, the legend is still in tact, and the silence maintains the enigma.  Fuck it, it's nearly X-mas, and I have Chinese Democracy in my hands, and still have a job.  All things considered, I don't have much to complain about.  Who gives a shit about Britney, the fad-chasers, and the commercial side of the industry.  If you love music, and love GNR there is not much to cry about.  I've given up worrying about these #'s, it's a never-ending vicarious mind-fuck that has ZERO impact on my life or ability to judge and like music! 

GNFR!!!

Another good post. People can cut it any way they want, but being sold exclusively at Best Buy hampers the sells.

There's this new thing called the internet.  You can go there, buy stuff, and they'll bring it to you.  Pretty neat actually.

#5572 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

Bright Eyes 2005 wrote:

Whatever.  The charts have no impact on me.  I could care less.  How do charts impact your lives?  Why do they matter?  If you love a band and music, then love it, but don't let commercial fad's determine your taste.

It matters because had the results been different, people would be talking up the sales and the charts and everything else.  You can't have it both ways.

#5573 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

madagas wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Vector - it's over.  Better is out as a single.  Crickets.  It's not like GnR is some new band that needs to grow it's listener base organically, it's an established brand name.  If it was going to take off, it would have happened by now.  It isn't going to happen, nor did they try to make it happen for whatever reason.

Exactly. Karma.

I was as positive as I could be (even got into it with you a couple of times), but I gave it a shot, supported it, spread the word - it failed.

That's showbiz. Fans still holding out that "this is far from over", "give it some time" are just good folks trying to stay positive, and that's admirable.

The reality is - BOMB.

To say it is over after two weeks is just ignorant. It very well may be, but the second single just went to radio last week. I still say give it to x-mas/the new year. Two weeks is just ...well, two weeks.:/

When did CD the single come out?  It's had more than 2 weeks to grow legs - it's had 10+ years.

#5574 Re: Guns N' Roses » what are we disappointed with? » 909 weeks ago

I do want to say that I'm not disappointed or surprised that some people really love the music.  This is Axl Rose we're talking about.  I think I would like CD:Stripped if such an album ever came out because I do tend to like Axl's song structures.  He lacks a lot of things, but writing terrific song structures isn't one of them.

#5575 Re: Guns N' Roses » what are we disappointed with? » 909 weeks ago

Mikkamakka wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I'm not disappointed at all.  The album was what I expected.  The sales results are what I expected.  The sentiment about going forward is what I expected. 

I guess I'm only disappointed in the supposed die hard fans of the new band jumping ship as they have (not that I blame them).  I really thought people were more into the new band than it turns out they really were.

What new band? The supporters of the Axl-version GN'R were mostly the Robin and Buckethead fans. They have nothing more to support, but Axl, who made even their heroes go away. Well, some of them still support Axl in his silence and loneliness.

Anyway, WeTheLiving summed it all well. 5

yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at when I said

But I guess it's tough to feel that strongly about something that never really existed.

#5576 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

Vector - it's over.  Better is out as a single.  Crickets.  It's not like GnR is some new band that needs to grow it's listener base organically, it's an established brand name.  If it was going to take off, it would have happened by now.  It isn't going to happen, nor did they try to make it happen for whatever reason.

#5577 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

LOL - only if it's another AFD/UYI rehash tour.  I can cover most of Izzy's parts and some of Slash's, but I'm not going to touch BH or BBF.  I could, however, do a hell of a Robin impersonation.

#5578 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

war wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

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NOW YOU'RE SPEAKING MY LANGUAGE smile

What the hell did I say?

#5579 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

killingvector wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

There is no single to get people hooked.  Doesn't logic have to enter into your thought process at some point?  People that love the album admit there is no killer single on it.  Think about that for awhile.

Personally I think Better is a very good single. Unfortunately, it hasn't had the same push from UMG which CD did. But I do agree that, pound for pound, this album requires digestion in order to appreciate. However, I do not agree the material is not marketable or lacking enough quality to sell. In fact, I think it is quite good.

"I think Better is a very good single" + "this album requires digestion in order to appreciate" = no killer single that will get people interested.  It's simple math.

#5580 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 909 weeks ago

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