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#5631 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses update official site » 911 weeks ago
Now you know why Axl doesn't want anybody talking.
#5632 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago
I guess that explains why they were removed from the recording contract in the same press release that Slash was, right? Or was it some other press release? Very objective. Nice job.
#5633 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago
Kudos to Bono for starting the thread.
I'm of a similiar same state of mind and not in the least bit interested in funding the "GNR Family". When the hangers-on have fucked off I'll buy the album.
If being a fan means putting up with more of the same shit which we've all become accustomed to I'll join the line of "fake fans" right behind Buzzsaw and Bono.
Fuck GNR
Well, that isn't the line I was hoping to lead, but hey, if I got guys like you and Bono behind me, what can go wrong?
#5634 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago
lol
the original lineup didn't include slash. so to, objectively, say what the real gnr is we must use the law or look at the founding members. since the founding members aren't the lineup that reunion buffs refer to as "the real gnr", using the law becomes the sole to for defining gnr, objectively. for me anyways
Ah, the old "dead guy and wish he was dead guy were really Guns N' Roses" response when the fans of the new band run out of cases to make. Usually they put up a little fight first instead of pulling it out so quickly.
#5635 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago
i also agree with dtj
some of you people are not fans. except the truth. this is gnr, legally and objectively speaking.
i think you people become so agnry because you can't let go of the past and continue to follow a memory. if you do not agree that this is gnr then you should get yourself a new hobbie or a new band to follow and come back when and if a reunion hits. i support gnr right now and i will support them as long as i appreciate their music, regardless of the lineup.
Dude, spellcheck and grammar check...holy shit. Did you write the CD booklet?
The only truth in what you said is this is GnR legally - but even that is a half truth. Axl is GnR legally. Everything else is open to debate whether you like it or not.
#5636 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago
I don't understand why you become so angry when someone says you aren't a fan, why not just say, yes I am not a fan of GNR now. Because really you aren't of fan of GNR in the present, regardless of your reasons for disliking what GNR has become. It is what it is and either you like it or you don't. I don't look at you any differently for not liking any of this. It's your opinion, I am just simply saying, why does that statement surprise you when people say it, you'd have to expect it really.
Because there is no GnR now. There's nothing to be a fan of or not be a fan of in the GnR world. Give me a real band (even if it's Frank, Dizzy, Pitman, BBF, and Axl) and I'll give you an opinion on the band Guns N' Roses. Axl Rose is Guns N' Roses legally. There is no band. When I talk about it, I have to preface it by saying "well, the REAL Guns N' Roses" and amazingly, regular real world people either get it and laugh or don't have a clue that there's a fake GnR right now (and by fake, I mean Axl and the session players that released the album, so don't even try to say there isn't a fake one).
I would love to see the opinions of people if they released this as Axl Rose's debut album. I'd be willing to be the opinions (including my own perhaps) might be a little bit different than they are now. There would certainly be a lot less anomosity, that's for sure and I'd likely be a little more forgiving of the major mistakes with the album.
#5637 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago
Aussie wrote:Having bought the album - I think it's money well spent. Yeah sure for me, to get nit picky in details there's things I don't like and wish weren't there. But aside from that, there is a shit load of cool sutff that I really enjoy. I'm glad this bitch finally got put out to pasture.
Well said.
There are going to be people not buying this or hating it due to the fact they cannot get past that this is not old GNR. That's fine doesn't make them not being fans of GNR but those of you cannot argue the fact that you aren't really fans of what GNR has become otherwise, the album would be bought and the songs would be enjoyed. So when someone says you're not a fan, that's kind of half true in a sense if you fall into the catagory of not liking anything about Chinese Democracy at all, then one can't blame another for saying that.
So in order to continue being interested in the Axl Rose show, one needs to buy into what GnR has become? The people that like it can't buy into what it's become (a platform for Axl Rose to release a solo album), so how can you expect others to accept it as GnR? If Axl can release some good music, I will be interested. I don't have to like whatever he's dishing out to be a fan. If this group of employees ever really becomes GnR, I might be interested. Until then, I will always want to know what Axl Rose - my favorite rock frontman of all time - is doing with his solo efforts disguised as GnR.
This is Santana all over again, only it's the same lead singer instead of the same guitar player. It is one man's vision played by a bunch of session players and touring employees hired to assist in the writing and development of his vision. There is no band. Shit, Tommy doesn't even like GnR, yet he's a member of the band now? Come on, he's collecting a paycheck like everybode else is. Just call it what it is.
If CD was released as a Axl Rose solo album, you can cut the sales in half - especially if the production was this poor. That is the reason this "band" is called Guns N' Roses. Not because it lives up to the name.
Really, the clinching argument in my book: How can you call it a band when there is only one member?
#5638 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions: 1st week U.S. sales will be... » 911 weeks ago
Kid Rock had a monster cross-over hit too. That isn't happening with CD.
#5639 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses update official site » 911 weeks ago
there wont be a reunion anytime soon
even an izzy bash?! i thought they were buds again? Izzy is thanked in the booklet
Axl isn't the webmaster. I wouldn't be surprised if any shots at Izzy are removed...not so sure about the Slash ones though. hard to know how Axl really feels today since he won't tell anybody anything about...well, anything.
#5640 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions: 1st week U.S. sales will be... » 911 weeks ago
I predict about 400K copies purchased by 250K people. A lot of the sales will be people buying multiple copies to support the band as though Axl is going to know they bought multiple copies and support the band. Another not so good sign for the long term success of the album...
