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#5641 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses update official site » 911 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
Olorin wrote:

It is possible.

Have you read the recent compliments Slash, Duff, Izzy and Matt have given regarding Chinese Democracy?

Yes. I think Axl is trying to completely say "screw you" to a reunion. Sabotage it completely.

Axl isn't saying anything, it's the hanger ons that are saying things and posting things.  Those are the people threatened by a reunion, not Axl.  When Axl says it, then I'll believe it's him...until then, it's people trying to save their space in GnRland.

#5642 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 911 weeks ago

Axl doesn't run the website - it's run by someone who is a hanger on like Beta and Jarmo.  That person fears Slash more than anybody else in the world...they may be the only people in the world that fear Slash.

My problem isn't so much the review chosen, it's the excerpt they decide to headline.

#5643 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions: 1st week U.S. sales will be... » 911 weeks ago

HiredGunz98 wrote:

In the U.S I think Chinese Democracy will sell 700k-800k and go Platinum in week 2 . World Wide 5 million in week 1

Holy shit!  Where did you buy the stuff you're smoking?

#5644 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 911 weeks ago

Olorin wrote:

I wonder why this band doesnt seem to mind the late arrivals?

I dont think Buckethead did, from what I read he felt upset with cancelations, keeping fans waiting, riots and lack of album.
Brain also said "I'll come back when they release the album", I guess he was fed up with the delays by that point.

If your employer says I'm coming to work whenever I want, but here's a nice paycheck for your troubles, what are you going to do?  You either say the money is worth it or decide it isn't and leave.  They have no power to do anything else.  They are all just employees of the Axl Rose Corporation.

#5645 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago

I don't hate new GnR.  I don't care for the quality of the songs.

#5646 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 911 weeks ago

Olorin wrote:

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Narcissism has a lot to do with selfishness and deep need for adoration, not giving a fuck for others and promoting themselves at the expense of others often publicly."

I think some of those people need a mirror.  The only difference is their adoration is directed at one man and not the music world in general.

Self promotion only gets you so far.  There are a lot of self promoters out there that never make legend or hero status.  You don't get to that level unless there's something to it.  Slash isn't respected in the industry because he's a media whore, he's respected because he's talented and he'll play with just about anybody and make it work. 

Maybe he's selfish.  Maybe he seeks attention.  Maybe he said some things about someone (Axl) that he shouldn't have said at some point.  So what?  Name me one famous person that doesn't have all of these qualities on some level or another.  Even the best slip up.  You don't get to that level by being only a giver.  You have to be selfish, seek attention, and you will eventually say or do something you shouldn't have.  So what?

I think Slash has been pretty fair to Axl in the press.  His criticisms have related mostly to being late, forcing lineup changes on him, and the direction Axl wanted to go musically.  Especially recently, he's been very complimentary to Axl - even after the going to his house incident.  If Slash wanted to get Axl, he's had plenty of opportunities to do it and he never has.

#5647 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 911 weeks ago

Axl has nobody to blame but himself for his perception.  He chose not to say anything.  He chose to become a hermit.  He chose to do things to push every original member out of the band (not saying it's entirely his fault, but there's no denying he did things to every person in that band that could drive them away).  He chose to abuse Erin and Stephanie (and who know who else).  He chose to release a solo album as Guns N' Roses.  He chose to bitchslap (ha) an old dude and bite a security guard.  None of these things endear him to people.

#5648 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the record..... » 911 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

You hesistated. You did all that shit, who's end game was the release of - Chinese fucking Democracy.

And you hesistated to pull the trigger. What does it say about you as a GN'R fan? Are you really that interested in the band? Or did all of those experiences you had, just add up to an almost robotic existance of - "me must go see Axl".

What a load of crap.  If you don't go out and buy CD, you're not a fan of GnR?  Who the fuck are you to make that call?  I am and will always be a fan of GnR.  I don't consider this to be GnR.  There is no band.  There is no anything other than Axl Rose and a revolving lineup of session and touring players.  That isn't GnR.  Nor is Axl Rose, and 2 keyboard guys.

History will not view this as a GnR record - you know that, don't you?  When people talk about GnR 20 years from now, it will be "AFD, UYI, and Lies were all awesome, and remember how long it took to release that joke that was CD - and it wasn't even Guns N' Roses!"  And people will STILL have a good laugh at the expense of CD.  It has been, is, and always will be the butt of jokes.  Nothing can change that now that it's out.  The best thing Axl could have done if this was the album he was going to put out is to keep it mythical.  Now it doesn't even have that to hang it's hat on.

I didn't buy CD.  I had it in my hands and put it down.  I have no interest in the CD and the vinyl is overpriced.  I'll wait until it comes down, or I'll just never buy it.  That doesn't mean I'm not a fan of GnR, that means I don't care for CD.  If Axl could release a quality album as fake Guns N' Roses, I'd buy it in a second, but not this crap.  All these years and they couldn't get it properly produced or have the booklet accurate and with proper spelling?  Inexcusable and an embarrassment to the name Guns N' Roses.

#5649 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 911 weeks ago

gnfnraxl wrote:

I think the hate has to do with the fact that at opne point Slash bashed Axl a lot in the media.  And in one interview would say something and in the next would change his story.  Hence why they say he lies all the time.  For me Beta, Fernando, Del or Jarmo show a real lack of maturity in their Slash comments.  Maybe if they would mind their own business things wouldn't be that bad between Axl and Slash.

They need things to be bad between Axl and Slash.  There would be no Beta, Del, or Jarmo types had the original band not broken up.  There would be hanger ons, but none with the influence these people have now and none of them want to lose it.

They are the biggest roadblock to a reunion in my opinion...not Axl or Slash.

#5650 Re: The Garden » The Energy Non-Crisis » 911 weeks ago

If somebody REALLY knew what was going to happen, they'd be making money off of it, not posting it to show how smart they are.  You can read the signs, but there is no sure thing.

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