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#561 Re: The Garden » McDonald's in 1974 » 250 weeks ago

I was just as shocked as you were when I saw this, but then I looked up inflation and the current cost of a quarter pounder.  According to this site, .70 cents in 1974 is equal to $3.86 in 2021:  https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

This site says the cost of quarter pounder today is $3.79. 
https://latestmenuprice.com/mcdonalds-menu/


Inflation is a bitch.

But here's a fun one for the $15 an hour crowd.  The minimum wage was increased to $2 an hour in 1974.  That translates to $11.02 in 2021.

#562 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 250 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

Biden’s numbers are tanking. Our country is not in a good state right now.

James made this comment too. Where are you guys seeing this?  He’s holding steady around 50%.  His high was 56%, and he’s declined 3% points each quarter. He’s still 10 points higher than Trump was at this point. A 6 point drop 6 months into his Presidency doesn’t meet my definition of tanking, but I’m interested to see why you and James feel he’s on a downward projectory.

#563 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 250 weeks ago

Yea, Mitch.  If by turn and pivot you mean cite and structure out arguments for my posts, you got me.  You should try it for once.

#564 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 250 weeks ago

James wrote:
misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Why would this be the stake in the heart? Your boy Desantis is overseeing a shit storm in Florida and everyone is anointing him the new king of the Republican party.

People are looking back at progressive talking head tweets from last year and it's uniformly anti vax, and were predicting Trump's rush to get vaccines out was going to kill people. You can't make this up.

Yeah it's crazy.

Had Trump won the election, it would be the left bitching about vaccines and wanting everything wide open.

I'm also getting sick of the constant bitching about the right not getting the vaccine.

In most of these states, it's minorities that are refusing to get vaccinated. They don't bring this up because it goes against their narrative they've spent months crafting.

It's very telling how the talking point was "White Republicans are refusing to vaccinate" and when you look at the figures, there's a similar vaccine resistance among Black Americans.  Admittedly, overall Whites represent the largest demographic so you have the most vaccinated overall, but an actual participation rate of around 60%. Similarly, you have a little over 60% of black Americans being represented.  Admittedly, the CDC says roughly 30% of their demographic data is missing, so the figures are only as good as the data, but no one is talking about any other demographic.

Google search 1 fitting the narrative
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Google search 2 changing the demographic
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And here's the actual CDC numbers as of today:
Reality.jpg
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke … emographic

Pay attention to actual completed vaccine rates since we've had one available for 7 months now. 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh … t-liberal/
90% of Black Americans identify with the Democratic party.  You can't find a more reliable and historical slant towards an American political party in any other demographic group. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_ … n_politics
69% of Latinos identify with the Democratic party.

Interestingly, trying to get a hard answer on which way white voters go wasn't as easy as other demographics. Pew provided this:

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and the NY Times election break down reports something very similar:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 … ident.html

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I have no interests in labeling groupthink to any demographic, but facts are facts. 

Here is a video of Harris telling the world she wouldn't take a vaccine recommended by Trump in October 2020, during our 2nd waive, a month from the election.  For the record, both Moderna and Pfizer are those very vaccines achieved under Warp Speed.  I have no interest in attributing any of these vaccines to him, he simply nodded his head "yes" when asked if it could proceed. 

That was our VP telling half the country that voted for her that she doesn't think a vaccine created and approved under Trump -which both Pfizer and Moderna are. should be taken if Trump is the one telling you to get it.  And we have a media and mouth breathers going around blaming the Republican party and specifically white Republicans?  This is a clear example of politicizing this entire thing.  The current team can't baffle you with their brilliance.  They can't even get an infrastructure bill through congress because they've paid too much lip service to the AOC and Twitter crowd.  So they baffle you with bullshit, and making it racial is the only proven method the American left has of winning elections.

#565 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 250 weeks ago

In case you guys forgot, Mitch is the guy who came here saying when he blew a tire and a stare trooper pulled over to help, he was worried the cop would shoot his infant son. After the cop changed his tire, Mitch literally said the police have never done anything for him. (Why a 30 year old man needed help changing a tire…)

If you’re expecting to engage with someone who has bothered to read anything other than the headlines of far left media outlets tailored to his algorithm, you’re only kidding yourself.

This guy said he didn’t know if he could protect his family if they were being murdered, as shooting someone attacking his wife gives him any pause.

Point being you’re not engaging with someone capable of expressing an opinion that remotely resonates with your average Joe.

Guys who think cops will shoot their infant or hesitate to protect their family don’t have the mental makeup that is relatable to anyone but far left Twitter where white men flog themselves for shit their ancestors did 300 years ago.

Someone who tells us we deserve Covid for voting for Trump isn’t someone you’re going to have any meaningful discussion with.

#566 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 251 weeks ago

I'm aware, but people aren't allowed to select their own facts.  Things are factual or they're not, and if you refuse to do a basic amount of research to validate something happened, or that a political leader said something there is video evidence of, I don't know what to tell you.  You denied Antifa existed all last summer, and repeatedly tried to blame the riots on Proud Boys or White Supremacist.  It didn't matter that there were over 10k riots/protests last year and countless videos of the destruction.

You can call them "alleged" till you're blue in the face, but that doesn't negate their presence in our shared world.  Words have definitions, and you don't get to change them because you want something to fall under its severity.  Point in case "insurrection" or "coup".  You can do the SG game and go super basic and claim that if I shot you in self defense, and you shot someone in cold blood, we're both murderers.  But we're all supposed to be adults here with decades of adult experience aware of nuance and context.

I'm going to ask one last time that you quit making up posts or claims I've said.  I've never denied the existence of far right groups, and even said that they were a direct response to Antifa because one didn't exist until years after the other.  You can find countless videos of Proud Boys fighting with Antifa.  A quick forum search will show you that I condemned them and warned that if we didn't stop the violence, it would escalate.  It has with both Antifa and Proud Boys killing the other.  That doesn't mean because you read on some fringe site (it's clear your homepage is yahoo and you only click the links their algorithm has tailored to you)  in May of 2020 that Minneapolis was started by Proud Boys and not the 2000 people with BLM boards, that I have to accept that against the countless other more accurate articles and video evidence.  You literally just asked us what Antifa looks like, because you've intentionally avoided being informed on the issue.  This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact.  So if you're going to continue to ignore the shared reality we live in, conjure up statements I not only never made, but said the exact opposite of what you claim, I have no reason to engage with you. 

Your call if you want to have a discussion, or if you want to just repeat what you think you remember happening 15 months earlier and accuse others of supporting acts you yourself celebrated.

#567 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 251 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

What about the Texas reps that are obstructing democracy by leaving their state preventing the legislative branch from operating? Isn’t that what the people of January 6th were accused of?


Nah, they're assholes who didn't adhere to masking while flying and now have infected at least 6 people with COVID, but that's a far cry from rioting in the Capitol.  One is a federal crime, while the other is just douchey.  Not the same game, let alone same ballpark.

Nothing that happened on January 6th was remotely ok or acceptable. It’s just really hard to be taken seriously when people kept their head in the sand for 7 months, pulled it out for one day, then immediately put their head back in the sand are claiming they have an informed, let alone objective view of political violence in America and who has fostered and encouraged it.

The crime the people from Jan 6th was a lot to do with preventing democracy. The Texas clowns are preventing democracy.


Then when when Democrats filibustered for 4 years, they were stopping Democracy.  When Republicans do it, they're stopping democracy.  No, stopping Democracy is trying to overturn an election because you believe a bunch of unfounded conspiracies espoused by a man who couldn't articulate a coherent sentence if you held a gun to his childrens' heads. 


You're losing me if you think in any way, shape or form what Texas Democrats are doing is akin to what vile pieces of shit did on January 6th, you're ignoring all the context, nuance and precedent Mitch is ignoring.

GOP members of Oregon's legislature did the same thing 2 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Oreg … %20Winters.  Were they stopping democracy?

#568 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 251 weeks ago

No one is minimalizing anything, just refuting your narrative it was a "coup". 

Coup - "a sudden and decisive action in politics, especially one resulting in a change of government illegally or by force."

It's also perfectly reasonable to point out that a "coup" (i'm using this in the same manner you were) was launched against the President of the United States with many more rioters, whom was forced into a security bunker.  It's also fair to point out that Democratic leaders stood in solidarity and knelt with the leaders of the "coup" a day after it happened.  2 billion dollars in damage was caused by the George Floyd inspired riots last year.  25 people were killed.  And one political party chose to have the leaders of this group share their stage at their national convention, and people like you denied any of this occurred (and apparently are still denying it).

If you don't understand why allowing 2 billion in property damage, riots in State Capitol Buildings (https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2020/05 … floyd.html), and countless violent assaults and 25 deaths resulted in a bunch of idiots rioting in the poorly guarded Capitol, there's nothing to discuss.  You want the narrative to be completely about January 6th, want to embellish what occurred on January 6th, and use it to justify a bunch of behaviors and laws your party and its leaders decried a few weeks earlier.  You can't feign outrage when people who have put more effort into educating themselves on what's been going on since Memorial day 2020 opine and consider events you refuse to acknowledge if not outright deny.

#569 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 251 weeks ago

No one accused you of any of that.  But assuming they did, how does it feel to have someone completely ignore what you've written only to accuse you of things you explicitly denounced or never even addressed in the post they didn't bother to read?  You know, like you saying anyone here supported January 6th or thinks it was okay or acceptable in any fashion.

#570 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 251 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Right...one group who wishes to overturn an election result is equal to a group of street hoodlums.

What about the Texas reps that are obstructing democracy by leaving their state preventing the legislative branch from operating? Isn’t that what the people of January 6th were accused of?


Nah, they're assholes who didn't adhere to masking while flying and now have infected at least 6 people with COVID, but that's a far cry from rioting in the Capitol.  One is a federal crime, while the other is just douchey.  Not the same game, let alone same ballpark.

Nothing that happened on January 6th was remotely ok or acceptable. It’s just really hard to be taken seriously when people kept their head in the sand for 7 months, pulled it out for one day, then immediately put their head back in the sand are claiming they have an informed, let alone objective view of political violence in America and who has fostered and encouraged it.

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