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#5721 Re: Guns N' Roses » GUNS N' ROSES' 'Chinese Democracy' Single Best 'Mainstream Rock' Debut » 915 weeks ago
Yeah, it's also based on airplay. The question then becomes "why was it played so often?", which is a whole different topic.
#5722 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Axlin08 wrote:Problem with that idea Loco98, is the fact that every radio station I listen to trashes CD, then turns around and talks about this really rockin' track from Hinder.
There's such a fuckin' bias. It amazes me that people still deny it.
At this point, I hope Axl releases 23 more albums without
, 'til only 3 people are buying GN'R albums, just to piss the world off.
The bias goes a lot of directions. Some people (not me) actually like this stuff that we call crap. There's no denying that either. Everybody is biased. So just because you think someone is an idiot for liking Hinder doesn't mean there aren't millions of Hinder fans that think Axl sucks. If you think Hinder radio guy is biased, then you need to admit your own bias.
Most of us that prefer complex music are not going to like the simple pop/rock of today. That creates a bias in all of us and it takes something special to overcome that bias, much like a lot of people are going to be biased against this band. If it manages to succeed inspite of the bias that exists against it, it will be a huge accomplishment for Axl and his management team.
well i think that bias is bias because all those who actually view bias are biased themselves one biased way or another, look i see what you're saying and all but my opinion is biased in viewing your biased opinion so the whole thing is just biased but in saying that that's actually biased because who am i say its biased? but that question was also biased because i have my own views which are also biased.
get my point?
I get that you're still making pointless responses to my posts. The good news is that one way or another, that will end soon. Either you'll straighten out or you'll no longer be welcome here. I'd prefer you stay because every once in awhile you actually have something productive to say, but I'm ok with either one.
It's your call. Think about it carefully. And please don't bother to respond to this...if you want to talk to me, do so through PMs.
#5723 Re: Management » Ban Capt. Wrinkler » 915 weeks ago
I havent read all his posts, but he doesnt bother me. He is just really defensive of Axl. He is a good alternative to some of the negativity here. The name calling and personal insults has to go though.
I agree. He can say whatever the hell he wants to say about Axl or the band, but he steps way over the line on the personal attacks and stalking certain people. Ultimately whether he stays or is banned is up to him.
Never expected to see a 'ban a certain member' thread.
I did, I just expected it to be my "negative" ass...
#5724 Re: The Garden » Help me win this--vote » 915 weeks ago
More vote rigging?
Just kidding - I can't vote at work because I don't have Flash on the laptop, but I will from home.
#5725 Re: Guns N' Roses » When will it leak? *It Leaked* » 915 weeks ago
It is strange people not sharing much... I remember being one of the first to host Better on my site and had hundreds download and now between three sites I can't get anyone to PM a brother, wtf? Come on peeps let's help each other out a bit-
Dude, you registered today. IF you did something in the past, nobody knows about it, so don't assume you're just going to get a PM because you happened to join on a day when leaks are circulating. Be patient and I'm sure someone that has them will hook you up eventually.
#5726 Re: Guns N' Roses » OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY" » 915 weeks ago
Unless TWAT completely blows in the final production (a possibility), I think it needs to be one of their singles. It's one of the only songs that is reminicent of the old band, and that is an important link for them to make (unless one of the new songs sounds somewhat like the old band).
#5727 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
Problem with that idea Loco98, is the fact that every radio station I listen to trashes CD, then turns around and talks about this really rockin' track from Hinder.
There's such a fuckin' bias. It amazes me that people still deny it.
At this point, I hope Axl releases 23 more albums without
The bias goes a lot of directions. Some people (not me) actually like this stuff that we call crap. There's no denying that either. Everybody is biased. So just because you think someone is an idiot for liking Hinder doesn't mean there aren't millions of Hinder fans that think Axl sucks. If you think Hinder radio guy is biased, then you need to admit your own bias.
Most of us that prefer complex music are not going to like the simple pop/rock of today. That creates a bias in all of us and it takes something special to overcome that bias, much like a lot of people are going to be biased against this band. If it manages to succeed inspite of the bias that exists against it, it will be a huge accomplishment for Axl and his management team.
#5728 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
Not that they're more faithful necessarily...I think there are other factors at play and most of them hinge around the fact that this album cannot be seen as a failure. Metallica and AC/DC are in completely different situations...they don't need to convince anybody that they are Metallica or AC/DC (respectively). Their hardcore fans are going to buy the albums regardless...not so much with GnR fans (though many will including me).
First of all, I think New GnR fans are more motivated...if they love the new band, they certainly can't have this single or album fail. If either flops, this band is done. Secondly, I think GnR management obviously has a vested interest in the success of it. Add to that the fact that they have a huge forum that is pretty much controlled by them (whether it is literally or not) and it gives them a tool that doesn't cost them anything to influence the voting. They know they can't possibly win in every market, so they focus on the big markets or the national broadcasts.
I'm not saying any of this is actually happening, but none of it would surprise me a bit, so I am skeptical on the numbers.
#5729 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:I'm not sold on the sirius ranking being legit, but the others very well could be, or at the very least are closer to legit. This is a positive sign.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but why don't you think it's legit?
I think if there's one type of place that's going to continue to get flooded with forum spammers, it's sirius or some other national broadcast. It's less likely that a local station is going to continue to be spammed. I also think if GnR were going to try to manipulate the ratings somehow, they would be targeting national sites or big market sites. I have no proof of any of this, it's just my opinion.
#5730 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
Chris Moyles & co played it on BBC Radio 1 this morning - they said 'Hmm, not sure about that one' Then went on to tell half the country that 'its not really Guns N Roses because its just Axl & a bunch of session musicians'. Then they ended up talking about VR instead.
This may sound a little bit hypocritical coming from me, but I really wish radio people would stop trying to tell people what to think about a song. I understand why they do it, but I don't think it helps. Their job should be to play the music and entertain, not influence what people do and don't like.
