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#571 Re: Guns N' Roses » WTF happened to…Catcher in the Rye » 277 weeks ago
As many have said, there's just too much stuff in the final version. It's overwhelming and not in a good way. Should have left it as is instead of dumping whatever it was on it.
#572 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Better » 278 weeks ago
As a hardcore fan in the late 90s-early 00s....this shit was really frustrating.
They weren't even trying.
When a major band(ANY band) is several years into an attempted comeback and new album, if the public doesn't know the names of the band, you're doing something wrong and need to go back to the drawing board.
Hell...some hardcore fans didn't even know the names of these people.
He couldn't get over the loss of Slash and talked about having to rebuild the whole thing from scratch.
He had his new Slash!! He literally fell into his lap! How the fuck he didn't realize this I will never know.
The iconic imagery can seamlessly switch from Axl with his arm around a chain smoking top hat to a KFC bucket and mask.
Buckethead joining was his supposed dreams of moving forward with GNR into the 21st century come to life.
The lineup at this point is so good that its virtually a supergroup.
One of the problems....
Our of....
Buckethead
Finck
Huge/FortusSomebody has to go....flip a coin if you have to. It's redundant and makes it seem like The Doobie Brothers onstage. We found out later on that there was no "grand vision" behind it....Finck wanted back in, forced his way in at the last second, and Axl didn't want to fire anyone.
Fire someone.
Image wise it needed to revolve around Axl and Bucket....and push Tommy's comeback as well.
The promo...other than Axl who doesn't like doing this stuff...has to revolve around Tommy and Brain. The Bucket character ok but in small doses.
They needed REAL management.
They needed an Azoff style manager who's not interested in a reunion.
The army of Yes men and housekeepers and janitors killed them. New GNR wasn't taken seriously by anyone in the camp. Not even a single picture was taken of the lineup that recorded the album.
This post needs to be read more. Thanks for bringing it up really. I mean, all he really had to do was give an interview with a reporter (cough KURT LODER) and introduce the guy and maybe crack a few lighthearted jokes about how he replaced one hatted guitar player with another one.
On the 3 guitar thing: they never needed a 3rd guitar player. Not sure why they felt like wasting the money on that slot. Plus from everything I've read is that Paul Huge is not really a great guitar player. Probably better served as Axl's songwritng buddy.
Oh this seems minor but on that VMA appearance, he really should have ditched the Football jersey attire. It just left a bad image.
#573 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…The Blues (Street of Dreams I guess) » 279 weeks ago
This song out of all the overproduced messes on the album is one of the worst. I dug the 2001 or 2002 versions. Then I listen to the album atrocity and it just makes me shake my head. It's like he took whatever was great about the song and buried it under layers of production and sound.
#574 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Chinese Democracy (song) » 279 weeks ago
This song was great at HOB and Rio.
Unfortunately... for reasons unknown...over the next 7-8 years they tried to forcefully turn it into an epic that it simply can't be.
The Village Sessions leak allowed the fan base to hear it how it was always supposed to sound.
The album version is unlistenable.
This. Sometimes a catchy rock tune is just that. Adding all that other stuff didn't help at all. That intro on the album doesn't do anything.
#575 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 279 weeks ago
Yeah, Cosby got fucked over (in regards to his constitutional rights) and that's why he's out of jail. I think he's guilty of all those horrible things but he has fifth amendment rights too. And there was clearly a deal with the prosecutor at the time.
#576 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 280 weeks ago
Man, I saw the pictures and didn't have the heart to watch it. I mostly remember him from NWA wrestling. From what the son wrote I don't think he meant anything bad by posting it. It's probably really frustrating to see your dad deteriorate and know it was concussions that did it.
The one guy I worry about is Mick Foley.
A lot of those ECW guys in the late 90s will probably get or already have CTE. Both WWE and WCW were at least a little safe as opposed to the ECW wrestling style.
#577 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 281 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Now that SCOTUS has kept the ACA intact and 2 of Trump’s appointees to include ACB sided with the 7-2 majority, are we going to hold those who screamed Armageddon accountable? Or is such hyperbole and hysterics par for the course?
How does one interpret this in any other way than the way Trump and other Republicans presented this?
They put 3 justices on the court in 4 years and among many other things, claimed they'd be able to overturn the ACA. This was their stated purpose, was it not?
I suspect that it was only to GOTV. The Roberts court has been moderate on social issues and pro-corporation on business. I never thought that it had a chance of being overturned.
Going back to ACA, you remember when McConnell was trying to overturn it, and they had those town halls where the Republican senators were shocked at how angry their constiutnets were at the possibility of the ACA being overturned?
#578 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 284 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:I guess Mitch is under the impression only America does business with China. And I'd say anyone exploits slave labor to produce cheap shit at maximum profit... They're the greedy ones.
I guess ID is under the impression that this country is not a leading consumer of Chinese made bullshit.
I’d say anyone who buys these products is equally responsible.
The genocidal communist slavers are worse. We shouldn't be doing business with them (with our size, of course we're the #1 consumers, I mean, yeah) but no one should be. I know you hate America, white people, men, republicans, centrists, the government, southerners and who knows who all else, but even you, considering how much you hate this country, cannot deny the fact China is worse.
Yeah, this country has it's "issues". But China is leagues worse than the USA. I'm not sure how anyone can aruge this. They used to have a policy where you could only have ONE child. And there's the other shit you mentioned.
The reliance of USA and the World on Made in China products are a whole different topic and discussion.
#579 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 285 weeks ago
I was never a big fan neither. .
I remember in the early 90s he had a talk show on CNBC and he came across a tad awkward. It wasn't a natural fit for him.
I remember that show. He came off as some cranky old guy who was out of touch. He'll probably be remembered for his Midnight Run role and deservedly so.
#580 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses & related STUDIO SESSIONS - a definitive collection (?) » 286 weeks ago
Alternate universe UYI...
You Could Be Mine
Don't Cry
November Rain
The Garden
Coma
Breakdown
Locomotive
Estranged
Dust N Bones
Double Talking Jive
Live and Let Die
Yesterdays
I dump LALD and Don't Cry. Sorry, Don't Cry hasn't held up at all. It's not awful but fucking hell it just kind of sits there and is just average. I try to fit in Dead Horse and Don't Damn Me somewhere in there. Maybe one of Breakdown or Locomotive goes. As much as I want to maybe cut off the Garden from this list, the Cooper involvement in the song almost gurantees it stays.
