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#591 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 271 weeks ago
The unique comedic chemistry between Heenan and Monsoon, a recap of that week in wrestling, along with an assortment of house show matches.
I miss Heenan and Monsoon on commentary. Perfect combination of humor, entertainment and making every match have an important feel to it. Heenan was mailing it in when he got to WCW.
McMahon just knew how to run a national promotion. He made it feel major league.
I still can't hardly believe that no NWA wrestlers ever made the rounds to Carson, Letterman, Arsenio, etc.
Just a complete lack of vision, creativity, and competency on Crockett and Dusty's part.
Someone mentioned Vince's creativity or whatever a few posts up. This is what the guy does (or did) well. Pushed his company into pop culture status in the 80s and 90s.
Vince was still pushing goofy cartoon characters on TV like it was 1988. They had a wrestler called the Goon, who was a hockey player who wore hockey gear and boots that resembled skates, and the poor guy could barely walk in them.
LOL, I remember him. There was also TL Hopper (may have been 95 though) and Barry Windham coming in as the Widowmaker and Dan Spivey as Waylon Mercy. To be fair, that one (Mercy) was a lot more interesting and not that goofy, I thought Spivey was just shot and done at that point. Oh wait, there was also Isaac Yankem DDS (aka Kane). It's easy to see how WCW was winning the war. They had the anti-authority stable in NWO and really just seemed a lot cooler. Also, I really loved the NWO theme song at that time.
#592 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 271 weeks ago
Looks like Texas and Mississippi are saying fuck it and are opening everything up.
This is insane to me. Texas is the #1 state for new Covid cases and with Spring Break around the corner it's almost a guarantee to get a large spike of infections.
#593 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 271 weeks ago
Vader was a monster and booked significantly better in WCW than WWF. Loved his WCW feuds with Flair, Sting and Catcus Jack. Same thing with Rick Rude.
#594 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 271 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:Mitch, Biden has been a FVCKING disaster and this crisis at the border is his fault. Fvcker can’t even do a presser, he can hardly speak.
I’m sure you can jerk off to Trump memories to make you feel better. That’s what YouTube is for.
Plus pointing out how someone can't speak while supporting Trump is ironic.
#595 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 271 weeks ago
Yeah Pro Wrestling is more or less a niche "sport" now. It's not mainstream anymore despite what Vince thinks. As far them selling, I think at some point after Vince dies that might be more realistic.
With them making more money than ever, the motivation to put on interesting shows/characters for WWE is out the window.
OTOH, I often wonder if/when FOX and USA Network will just more or less dump them. Their shows are doing awful ratings. Raw rarely draws 2 million viewers and Smackdown barely gets 3 million viewers weekly.
Oh, the times may change but Vince is still a slimeball promoter/carny.
#596 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 273 weeks ago
There is nothing wrong with Pelosi. She's actually moves forward legislation etc. You can disagree with her philsophcally, but she's nowhere near Feinstein.
Cruz is like literally the worst and most pathethic senator. That dumbass is blaming his kids. And he booked a trip that was supposed to return on Saturday. I mean, at least act like you give a shit during this time of need when your fellows citizens, whom YOU REPRESENT. I mean O'Rourke whom he defeated a few years ago acts more like a Senator than he does.
#597 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 273 weeks ago
You guys want to know that hilarious part of this? Vince wanted to sign him AGAIN even after all that. In late 1997 after Bret left, he once again offered Warrior a lucrative contract. Warrior declined and signed with WCW in 1998.
Years later, Vince was asked why he offered/wanted to sign Warrior again and his answer was: I don’t know. I guess I’m a glutton for punishment here.
#598 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 273 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Watching the Raw vs Nitro the night after Hogan's heel turn. I had no idea Vince had planned to make the Warrior his franchise to go against WCW and the night after of the NOW debut Warrior stiffs WWF and leaves the company. What a friggin stroke of luck that was.
Oh god...that was short lived. Did you hear about the comic book thing? Absurd.
Warrior had virtually been out of the business for 3 years after he fucked Vince the first time and then he virtually did the same thing.
He never worked for Vince again after this incident.
I remember how they played it off on tv too. Gorilla Monsoon said warrior had been missing dates and wouldn’t be back in the WWF unless made a ‘post appearance bond’ for the following cities’ then he listed several cities and they never mentioned him again.
Fool me once Shame on you fool me twice shame on me.
LOL, I don't remember the comic book but wasn't there a Warrior University tie in (it was equally as dumb)? I forget who Warrior was feuding with when he no showed in June 1996. He squashed HHH at Wrestlemania so it wasn't him. I think he was feuding for whatever reason with Jerry Lawler.
#599 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 273 weeks ago
I didn't see that Havoc, I didn't really watch the skinny Hulk Hogan era WCW. Giant was a terrible champion. In the last show I watched his title defense was against Earthquake, and it was just thrown into the middle of the show.
Every time Hall and Nash show up, and I don't even think they wrestled yet, the crowd goes bananas. They really pulled that angle off well.
1995 in general was an awful year for wrestling in general in both WWF and WCW. I assumed you passed the infamous Doomsday cage match from Uncensored in 1996. It was just boring to me and not awful like most people say.
Oh man the Hall and Nash thing was brilliant by WCW. They don't go overkill and just bash you over the head with you like modern WWE. They did the slow build and it worked to perfection. It's like reading a great novel, every chapter builds on the previous one. Getting ahead here, but Bishoff sold that jacknife powerbomb by Nash at the Great American Bash very well.
#600 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 273 weeks ago
WWF and WCW at that time, 96-98ish were weird opposites of one another. On WCW, they did the undercard stuff far better. But when it came to the main event stuff and actually paying off an angle, for the most part they disappointed. It was the opposite in WWF where their undercard stuff was spotty but more often than not the stuff in the main event was booked well and there was a satisfying payoff. I mean, Austin did win the title from Michaels at Wrestlemania 14.
Most of the time in WCW you had some sort of bullshit finish with the NWO makes all the emotional investment that you as a fan have "bought in" kind of wasted.
