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#631 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 300 weeks ago

James wrote:

I'm straddling the fence on that issue...

Is she exaggerating her role in that situation? Yes. It doesn't minimize the magnitude of what happened that day.

Here's what minimizes it....

It's already been turned into a political game. Nothing will happen to the congressmen/women who participated in the insurrection, failed coup, or whatever we're calling it now.

The fact that there weren't immediate and dire consequences to their actions showed us how this was going to play out.

A handful of plebes got arrested. One of them was just allowed to take a vacation to Mexico. In other words.... it's not being taken seriously. They will get a slap on the wrist. Politicians are whining about cancel culture.

While I do believe it was worthy of a major crackdown including arrests and resignations,  our hyper-partisan culture that treats politics as entertainment ensured nothing substantial would happen.

His impeachment trial will just be a bonus episode of Trump world. Nothing substantial will happen. It is a waste of time...or maybe it's not. They get to delay their work on the stimulus.

We have bigger fish to fry now that it's obvious that they're getting away with it.

Yes it will happen again and yes....it will be much worse the second time around. I predict that the second attempt will be a terrorist attack with several politicians being assassinated. It will probably happen around the midterms.


US politics is morphing into a Tom Clancy novel set during an Idiocracy.

I wish he was alive to see this shit.

I agree with the political part where the people in Congress are just treating it like another political issue.  That being said, some of these idiots who participated in this are getting nailed on multiple indictment felony charges NOW.

That person you mentioned about the Mexican vacation just got indicted on five charges, and one of those is a felony.  From what I've read, a lot of these people are getting felony charges.  So on that point, I totally disagree.  The FBI/DOJ aint fucking around here.

#632 Re: The Garden » NFL 2019 » 301 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

The Bears are gonna tag Robinson...can you tag more than one player?

The franchise tag, no.  They have the option of using the transition tag which is less but there's zero compensation.  It's more or less like an offer sheet.  With the franchise tag, you always get something in return if he signs with another team.

mitchejw wrote:

I think my thought process on Trubisky has changed. I agree, he's nothing special and it's sad to see a second overall pick wasted.

The problem is that you have to do the full analysis. You can't just get rid of someone and have no plan or a bad plan to replace someone. When the Bears fired Lovie Smith...I remember feeling like...yeah, ok...but what's the plan? There wasn't one. It was just fire him and haphazardly select a new coach. Mark Trestman is all the proof I need to show that the Bears don't plan thing. It's based off of bean counting.


They only have four options here:

Trade for someone better (Watson), trade draft picks to move up from #20 to draft one of the top 4 qbs in the draft, sign an UFA (like Jameis Winston), and stick with the same qb group like last year.

They would have to give up 2-3 first rounders, some other picks and a young defensive starter or two for Watson.  Trading up to #7 (Detroit's pick which is clearly for sale) would cost them 2 first rounders.  I just don't know whether or not they may do it.  There are like 7 or 8 teams that draft before them that need qb's.  They are going to have to move up and give up draft picks if they are looking to the draft again to solve the decades old qb problem.  Them picking the right qb is also another issue.

And honestly, trading for Watson or drafting a qb in round 1 buys the Pace/Nagy show ANOTHER year.  Going with Trubisky just wastes another year of some of those great defensive players the Bears.  The other guy I might try to trade for who wouldn't cost much (outside of cap space) would be Bridgewater.  He's boring as fuck but he doesn't turn the ball over and elimates the WTF plays I've seen from the CHI quarterbacks.

Edit: Just saw that Derrick Carr might be traded by the Raiders.  There's another guy the Bears can trade for.  Will cost less than Watson but can make all the throws and nowhere near as conservative as Bridgewater.  And the two teams' front offices obviously have familiarity with one another.

The Bears have options here, whether or not they choose to pursue them is up to the FO.  But they can't sit there and say Trubisky was the best option.  No one will believe that.

#633 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 301 weeks ago

Get Carter (2000)

It's a remake but this isn't bad at all.  Set in Seattle and that makes a big difference (original was set in London).  Makes it more calm, reflective, and serene weirdly enough.  There is some decent character work in between the car chase and Stallone fight scenes. The scenes w/Rachel Leigh Cook and Stallone were quite good actually.  I had good time watching this.  The problem I guess is comparing it to the Michael Caine 70s film which is FAR grittier and nasty.  But there's nothing wrong with this film at all.

#634 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 301 weeks ago

Is it just that hard to ignore someone that you don't care for at all on a message board?  Just don't respond to him or scroll past it.

#635 Re: The Garden » NFL 2019 » 301 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Philly already chose Hurts, they started him in the second. Why in the world would they pass up a trade when they already started and played his replacement?

I will not shocked to see the Bears put a tag on Trubiski.

Because he and the head coach had a horrible relationship and PHI chose to fire the head coach and hire a new HC that is an offensive guy.  That probably says that they'll give Wentz one last shot this year before ditching him.  And Hurts isn't the long term answer.

The Bears would be wasting their time with Trubisky.  Because you'll get a few good games, a lot of stinkers and some average games.  He's not the answer short or long term.

#636 Re: The Garden » NFL 2019 » 301 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

I will say that if Kalil Mack was worth 2 first rounders then Stafford is absolutely worth 2 first rounders. He's a significant upgrade from Goff and I expect the guy to play another 5 years at least.

I've never been impressed with Goff and quite frankly I'm starting to realize that draft picks themselves are over-valued. The whole thing is a crap shoot even for the best scouts and GM. I am coming more and more around to this idea that trading first round picks for a known commodity is the way to go. 3-4 years of production from a known commodity is better than gambling with draft picks and I think you'll see it more and more.

I agree.  Certain positions in football are very really hard to acquire in the draft.  #1 game changing pass rusher (like Mack, still can't believe were stupid enough to trade him in his prime), shutdown CB, maybe LT and franchise qb.  The Rams traded picks for a CB in his prime that is a shutdown cb and now a top 15 qb.

What are the odds that they would have been able to acquire that with their draft picks which weren't high?  Very low since they are a good team.  In that aspect, draft picks are over rated.  I mean they aren't trading these picks for a G or ILB.  QB's have a huge bust rate but the NFL has placed so much importance on the position, you have to try to get one by any means.

#637 Re: The Garden » NFL 2019 » 301 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I just saw the Lions traded Matt Stafford to the LA RAMS in exchange for Jared Goff and two (TWO!) first round draft picks. Holy shit... Well, good for the Lions. I've thought they needed to trade Stafford for years, but I never thought they'd get that kind of hall. Even if Goff bombs, it's basically a free young QB to take a flyer on. I wouldn't have given up on him this early, but that doesn't matter now. I

Now lets see where Carson Wentz goes. My bet is New England.

There are at lot of teams that need a good qb.  Wentz isn't likely to be traded given that they more or less chose him over Pederson.

misterID wrote:

I'll add Mitch Trubisky, also. I think the Goff trade will really throw a wrench in things in terms of perceived value. He was traded for virtually nothing, just a bow on the package, for a 30+ old QB who's never shown he can win the big game.

I just read Deshaun Watson is next.

Trubisky is a free agent.  Goff was traded and they more or less had to attach a first rounder because his short term contract is pretty bad.  DET is scheduled to pay him something like 43 million dollars in guaranteed money this year.  The Lions can cut him next year if they choose.

PaSnow wrote:
Wagszilla wrote:

Goff is not good though.

He's not terrible. I mean, is 31/32 year old Stafford even worth 2 1st rd picks at this point in his career?  Let alone two 1st rounders AND Goff?!

Detroit could do some major damage in the draft if they have their own picks too (not sure if they do).  2 first rounders this year, OL, WR & D in the 2nd rd, next year DL, LB and OL in 2nd round. Or something like that.

Wags is right.  Goff is pretty mediocre.  I watch him play a fair amount.  He usually falls apart if he has to scan the field and read the defenses.  He looks great when the first read or option from the McVay playcall is open.  He throws a pretty pass too.  He's basically holding the Rams back at this point.

#638 Re: Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Responsible for New GNR’s failure » 301 weeks ago

James wrote:

Who do you think are the Top 5 parties?

Responsible for the album not coming out years earlier (2000-2003)?

1. Label politics

2. Pure shit management

3. Axl

4. TB

5. Band members too scared to give ultimatums


Responsible for the saga in general, including the hiring/auditioning process?

1. TB

2. Axl

3. Pure shit management

4. Label politics

5. Hardcore fans for not walking away....only half kidding.

Spliting hairs here but isn't #2 Pure Shit management on Axl since he hired that person?

Other than that, agree on MisterID, it's all on the redhead.  He wanted control of the band, he got it and all the responbility that came with it.

#639 Re: Guns N' Roses » What unanswered questions do you want answered by GnR? » 302 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:
James wrote:

Id like to know if those involved fluctuated over the months before it broke down. Was it initially going to be a classic lineup reunion or was a hybrid already taking shape?

Example...

Where's Izzy in all this? Obviously he played a role in it. He toured with new GNR off and on. Is he "All In" at this point?

With Izzy in.... Fortus isn't needed.

Duff obviously knocks Tommy out.

Slash removes the need for Bucket/Ron and also makes Finck redundant and expendable.

We know Dizzy would be in.

Where's Sorum? Where's Adler? If these two are out or in a "guest appearance" role, this means Brain is in the running. Frank hasn't entered the equation yet.

In a world without CD or a revamped CD with the old guys, is Pitman also expendable? 2016 tells us that the answer is probably yes.

I wouldn't rule out Tommy in > Duff out. There were definitely going to be some Nu Guns guys still in the band. Don't forget the hybrid logo...just add Slash and you can sell a New Classic GnR. Is this around the time Slash called Duff spineless?

Yes, that was during the infamous drunken late night visit to Axl's house.

#640 Re: The Garden » Lost my mom.. » 302 weeks ago

My deepest condolecnes, Irish.  Stay strong and resolute.

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