I don't think Axl sounds good either.  Maybe the album version will be better, but what I heard on the radio version was total crap.  Much like the CD demos, it sounds way too busy.

Oh, I agree.  When I said "honest listen" what I really meant was listen to it objectively.  I understand that what I think is good or bad isn't necessarily good or bad to anybody else.  I don't expect to change anyone's mind either - that isn't my goal.  I just don't want to keep seeing the same couple people trying to convince me or anybody else how great it is.  There's a very vocal minority that seems to think repeating something over and over makes it so.  I'm just providing balance.

I would like to see Axl succeed.  That is why things like this really bother me.  I knew this would be the result and I am not looking forward to what I suspect will be the result.  This will not be well received and Axl's name being associated with it isn't going to help Guns N' Roses.  I was thinking most people would realize that.

As those that are willing to give it an honest listen are noting, it's a weak performance.  Considering it's being used to promote the album, it makes sense that the rest of the album is as weak or weaker.  It's too bad.  The reaction isn't going to help Axl's confidence any.

LOL.  Rules apply to everything.  I don't write the rules, I just understand them.  If you have quality, you don't invite someone more famous to help you out on your first solo effort in a decade.  You don't use the other artist to promote your album.  You guys go ahead and enjoy fantasy world, I'll stay in reality.

What are you asking?  Your question seems to make the same point I made. 

I choose to be here because this is where the community is.  I don't care what it's called or who owns what.  Brody made a decision to not communicate with anybody when the site was having problems.  I don't care what happened before, I don't care what happened behind the scenes with the staff.  All I know is that when something happened at the original RoV site, it was James, DTJ, and Neemo that dealt with it.  There was no sign of Brody, there were few posts from Brody, and there was no contribution to the community from Brody other than paying the bill (with help from others). 

Look, I appreciate what Brody did to start the site and keep it going.  Sometime about a year ago, something changed and he disappeared for the most part.  He no longer communicated with the staff and he no longer communicated with the community on a regular basis.  The community continued to grow and boneded with each other.  Brody chose to be an outsider.  He further alienated everybody when the site went down and there was no communication from him again.  Something had to be done, but nobody could do something about it other than Brody and he chose to do nothing.  He made decisions that showed he didn't treat the community with respect.  So the community did the only thing it could do and that is move on.  Nobody wanted to leave the old site.  Nobody wanted the old site to go away.  We all put a lot of time and effort into that site.  It still hurts to not be there, but life goes on.

I wish Brody all the luck in the world with the old site.  I might go back, I might not.  It depends on what value there is to going back.  Even if I do return, I will not be leaving this team, this community.  I'm here because it's my online family.  I'm here because even when we disagree, we have great discussions on gnr and non-gnr related issues.  They treat people with respect, they keep people in the loop.  They treat the community as though we are all important and recognize the contributions of everybody involved in making the community what it is.  There is a reason this site came to be.  It isn't because they stole the name or graphics or people...it is because the people WANTED to come, they wanted to stick together.  We sought this place out (and it wasn't easy to find).  We did it because we wanted to, not because we had to.

/rant